Never Thought I'd Have a 10 Gauge but...

[Dean Romig]

Sight unseen, a friend was at a flea market today and sent these pics from his cell phone. I asked him to buy it for me, sight unseen except for the poor pictures.

I cant wait to learn the serial number and especially to hold it in hand... :cool:

Man those pictures are terrible... I guess that's the best I can expect from a cell phone.

It looks like it has some color, thigger guard still has some blueing and the wood looks very good with not too much wear to the checkering. Now, if the barrels are right I'll feel much better.

IF the barrels are right it will make a fine turkey gun!!



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[John Truitt]

Great find. I agree with you. I am not much of one for the ten bore, but there are some nice ones out there.
Do not worry if the barrels are an issue. Just give me a call.

[scott kittredge]

you never know when a gun will show up , hope it works out for ya, it looks good from i can see, keep us posted :corn:

[Mark Landskov]

Dean, try some of Mr. Bell's one ounce loads and you will become a disciple! I have owned only two 10 bore shotguns, but they both threw some awesome patterns at ranges exceeding 40 yards. Sometimes Mr. Grouse has the advantage of seeing you long before you can sneak up on him, and that is where the Mighty Ten comes into play! Enjoy!

[calvin humburg]

Wow Dean, scuplterd Bolsters grade 3? Has what as you state good color on floor one would think the side plates would be good did he say if there was engraving on side plates. I'm excited for you pictures as soon as it showes up. If barrels are border line theres always light black powder loads. Did your friend see what size frame it has?

[George M. Purtill]

thats a great flea market find!!
I expect pictures tonight!

[Mark Ouellette]

Turkey gun? Heck that's a sporting clays and skeet gun!

Man up there Dean! ;)

[Robin Lewis]

Fully checkered ball grip too!!!!!

[Russ Jackson]

Dean ,Looks like a Great Find ,Post some pictures when you get her :corn:! Congrats !!!! Russ

[charlie cleveland]

mighty nice find...i bet the 10 will soon be higher on your list before long...its my favorite... charlie

[Rick Losey]

great, I am still amazed where these finds occur.

[Dean Romig]

My friend knows exactly nothing about shotguns - or any kind of guns for that matter - so what questions I want to ask him about it will not be asked. My questions will be answered later this week when I have it in hand. I promise I'll post pictures. The barrels are 30" just as the book reports them to be.

[Larry Stauch]

You're a lucky guy today Mr.Roming.

Congrats.

[edgarspencer]

I was told there was an "Engraved Parker Shotgun with Outside Hammers" being shopped around Brimfield, last week for $1500. Was this it?

[Dean Romig]

Not by the price I paid. Maybe somebody else bought it and flipped it right away... who knows???
I don't even know where my friend found it.

[charlie cleveland]

now were in suspence over this new gun...charlie

[Pete Lester]

I hope it works out for you Dean. If it does your next adventure will be reloading and you will enjoy the performance of the 10 and economy and flexibility of reloading for it.

[Dean Romig]

I received the gun this afternoon and I like it a lot. The only problem I find (other than the buggered hammer screws and the missing screw on the side of the SKBP) is the fact that someone had used the wrong method to clean the crud from the metal surfaces and succeeded in polishing the finish off the Damascus barrels and any remaining case color from the entire frame. It also appears that he cleaned the wood a bit and oiled the wood nicely without overdoing it.
It is a 1875 gun, Grade 3, Skeleton Steel Butt Plate, 2-Frame (1 1/8" between firing pins), 14 LOP, 2 3/4" DAH, 2" DAC, 30 3/16" barrels (book says 30") checkering in very nice condition, locks up tight and solid (no wiggle even with forend off) Chokes haven't been touched, a few rusty patches in the bores but no pitting.... and it fits me very nicely.

Pics.



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[Dean Romig]

More pics...




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[Dean Romig]

Just a couple more...



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[Jeff Kuss]

I wonder how many years it sat in a closet or an attic before someone decided they didn't want a "gun" in the house! Nice gun.

[George Lander]

You just never know what will show up at a flea market, estate sale or even a yard sale. You've got a keeper there Dean. Congrats!

George

[Rick Losey]

I guess most everything has been said but ooohhh and aahhh

Very nice find Dean, the gun and the friend are keepers

Now will Morris sell you some RST 10's. Or will he think you're kidding?

[Dean Romig]

Morris will sell me the shells but he'll do it in his signature way of just looking at you with his short cigar butt pointing right at ya and not say a word, but that little twinkle in his eye lets you know that he still loves ya.

[Mark Ouellette]

Dean,

That is one heck of a nice 10 gauge Grade 3 and it's on a #2 Frame!!!

I hate you! :( Just kidding!

Mark

[George M. Purtill]

You done good Dean. i just love the ball grip.

[Dave Suponski]

Wonderful gun Dean! I can see those Pa'tridge shakin in their boots now...:)

[Dean Romig]

It is such a lively gun I told Dave I thought it was about 8 lbs. but I weighed it this morning and it is 9 lbs. exactly.

[Daryl Corona]

Ya see Dean, you just never know where that next Parker is coming from. Nice one! I've been kinda halfheartedly looking for a 10 to hunt waterfowl down here in the Chesapeake Bay country with but now after seeing your new find, well, if YOU are going to hunt with a 10 then I guess I should really get one. Next year we'll have a really big bore squad at Ernie's. Congrats.

[Frank Cronin]

Congrats Dean! Look forward to seeing your "new" 10 gauge it real soon!

[Russ Jackson]

Dean ,I am getting in on this a little late but as so many have said OOLALA !:bowdown: Nice Gun !! The Checking on the Ball Grip and Forend are beautiful , Congrats ,Very Nice ! Russ

[Pete Lester]

Nice find Dean!

Dean I don't believe you or anyone else will use a Short Ten enough to appreciate it's capabilities unless you reload for it.

RST Shells are wonderful, they provide options where none exist and Morris is a nice guy, but the retail price of $40 for 25 1 1/8 ounce 2 7/8" 10ga shells will lead to very limited shooting for most people. In contrast I have been able to reload a box of 25 1 1/8 ounce 10ga target loads for about $7 a box of 25. My cost include the purchase of hulls.

It does not take very many boxes of shells to ammortize the cost of MEC loader and short kit.

[Dean Romig]

http://www.rstshells.com/rst_classic_shotshells_shotshells.

But there are other choices for turkey shooters.

[Pete Lester]

http://www.rstshells.com/rst_classic_shotshells_shotshells.

But there are other choices for turkey shooters.

Yes there are, a few 1 1/4 ounce loads, and with so few shots taken at Turkeys cost is not an issue, However I don't see any 1 3/8, 1 1/2, 1 5/8 or even 1 3/4 ounce loads on there. If you check the 10ga reloading data you will see larger payloads with moderate pressures.

If you want to shoot it a lot and have a wide range of payload/pressure options you have to reload for the Short Ten.

[Mark Ouellette]

Dean,

Based on the serial number of your new gun it is likely to have 2 & 5/8" chambers.

Also, the chambers may have been cut for brass shells.

Mark

[John Truitt]

Dean,

does your have the recessed breech face for the shells?

[Dean Romig]

Dean,

does your have the recessed breech face for the shells?


No, it has flat breech faces with no recesses.

Interestingly, I know of a Parker with the gas-releif porting on the breech faces that was patented by Boss. I'll post a pic of that tonight.

[Dave Suponski]

Daryl, If we are gonna have a big bore shoot at Ernies you better buy two so I will have one to shoot. I sold all my 10"s Oh wait....BFT Mark has a whole pile of 'em.....:whistle:

[Mark Ouellette]

Seventeen Parker 10 gauges at last count. Add four LC Smiths, and a couple Lefevers and I suppose I do have a few...

I have no AH Fox 10 gauges because due to Ansley's late arrival with his last gun company. The 10 gauge was fading from the marshes and fields when the AH Fox Gun Company produced their A, B, and C grades. I do however have a couple Super Fox HE guns in 12 gauge magnum. I shot one of those at Hausmann's in June on the small bore course. Life is nothing without a challange!

Mark

[Craig Larter]

Dean: Very nice!! Welcome to the 10 bore club, they are fun to shoot.

[scott kittredge]

yes NICE GUN!!! and you will love the 10 ga. hope to see it soon :corn: scott

[Daryl Corona]

Hey Dave,
Up till now a big bore to me was a 12 as I'm sure it was to you and BTD. (Big Ten Dean). Sorry Mark but I had to borrow your moniker for this post. I'm sure between Mark, Scott, Pete and now Dean, one of them will let us borrow their 10's. Now if we could only get them to reload for us.:rotf:

[Dave Suponski]

Daryl, They're gonna have too....:rolleyes: I got non of them big bore reloadin stuff either....:whistle:

[Mark Ouellette]

Borrow a 10 gauge from me? Heck I'll sell you one! :)

Dean,

I think that you will find that with shot size, weight, and velocity equal to a 12 gauge load, the Short Ten is very forgiving when you are not quite centered on a clay target.

Mark

[Dean Romig]

So it won't be quite as un forgiving as a 28 gauge??

[Pete Lester]

Dean I know you may have seen this crude video I put together while ago but it may be of more interest to you with your new addition. Reloading for the Short Ten is relatively easy and very cost effective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owXs4Eg__BE

[edgarspencer]

This video has me convinced I need a 10, and, a blond to teach me how to use it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnT723O5fZg&feature=related

[charlie cleveland]

edgar get that ten ga but leave the blonds to the young guys... charlie

[edgarspencer]

edgar get that ten ga but leave the blonds to the young guys... charlie
Charlie, I'm way more likely to find a 10, then a blonde. Come to think of it, and since we're all being honest, I'm more likely to find a high grade .410 then a blonde.

[Dave Suponski]

Well, If we are being completely honest I think I would rather have a high grade .410 than a blonde. Most likely less trouble.....:rotf:

[Tom Carter]

It'll cost you less in the long run too. Cheers, Tom

[Daryl Corona]

Have you ever tried reloading those stinking little .410 hulls. I'll take the blond, thank you!

[Dean Romig]

I talked with my friend who facilitated my purchase of this gun and it turns out that it is the gun that was being "peddled" at Brimfield, MA. just about 15 miles North of the Ct state line. Google Brimfield Tornado to see the destruction from the June 2011 tornado.

[Rick Losey]

I talked with my friend who facilitated my purchase of this gun and it turns out that it is the gun that was being "peddled" at Brimfield, MA. just about 15 miles North of the Ct state line. Google Brimfield Tornado to see the destruction from the June 2011 tornado.

hmmm, thats interesting Dean

the hammer gun I passed on at an antique show two years ago, the one that got me started here, was sold the very next week at a large antique show at


wait for it


Brimfield -- been telling my wife we should go to that one.

[Dean Romig]

Could it be the same gun?

[Rick Losey]

Could it be the same gun?

no Dean, that one was a 12 bore O grade.

just thought it was funny another should show up at the same place within a couple years. I just hope I don't run into everyone else there next year :rotf:

[Dean Romig]

I just finished cleaning the bores and what I thought was crud and rust scale turned out to be just that and they cleaned up very nicely. There is a minimal amount of very shallow pitting but it really isn't worth a second look... very clean in my opinion. I have no reservations on shooting this 2 5/8" 'chambered for brass' Parker.

[calvin humburg]

Now just some brass a little black and the fun begins.

[edgarspencer]

I'm here to report: Deans Gun is a Clay Buster.

[Dean Romig]

Edgar is absolutely right!!

When I do my part those clays just disappear and a small cloud of dust remains in their place.... but at 9# and a very good whallop to my shoulder which sends a shock wave through the rest of my body I think I'll stick to the 16 or 28 for October and Novermer in the uplands and save the big 10 for turkeys in the spring.

I turned in my 12 ga. scorecard to the Fox team yesterday and went out and shot the 10 later.... I should have burned my 12 ga. card and turned in the card for the 10 :shock:

...but neither would have qualified in the top five anyway.

[George M. Purtill]

For those who attended the PGCA Vintagers booth and saw Dean's 10 you will agree- he is a thief!
What a sweet gun.

[calvin humburg]

What was the 10 load you were shooting Dean?

[Dean Romig]

I shot RST "Light" 1 1/8 oz. #8. I don't remember the Dr. Eq. but you can look it up on their web site.

I'll admit to being a bit of a "bottom feeder" when the situation requires but will 'step up to the plate' when I need to. I never even attempted to try to get Jay Schacter to lower his price on his 'all but new' 28 ga. straight-grip CHE... an absolutely stunning little Parker that fit me like it was made for me... or someone just like me but with a much fatter wallet :crying:

[George M. Purtill]

Just got home from Vintagers. There were many guns there that could have come home with me but for my skinny butt- er.... wallet.