Certified "Wall Hanger"

[Bobby Cash]

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The Family will tell you that Great Grandad's gun
has hung on the same wall in Grandma's house for 75 years.

[Angel Cruz]

Are there more pictures or is that's all that's left of great Grandad's gun??:)

[Rick Losey]

maybe Grandpa said he'd switch anyone who touched his best gun. :)


and yeah - I agree with Angel - where is the rest of the story.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

I know about hammerless, and hammer guns tell us a little about this barreless gun?

[Bobby Cash]

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Can you guess what color the wall is?

[David Holes]

I would hope they would remove gun before painting? Maybe not.

[Gerald McPherson]

I wuz jest in uh hurie.:bigbye:

[George Lander]

From what we can see it deserves a full restoration IMHO

Best Regards, George

[Bobby Cash]

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Sound Wood

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[Rick Losey]

so this is the one the serial number lookup was for a bit ago -very nice shotgun,

thanks

[Frank Allegra]

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[Frank Allegra]

Bobby,

Your wallhanger is D....lite full. Very Nice!

P.S. I would like to guess on the color of the wall........How about "Swiss Coffee"?

[Rick Losey]

P.S. I would like to guess on the color of the wall........How about "Swiss Coffee"?

old lady beige -

when and where I grew up in everyones grandmother's house the bathrooms and kitchens were old lady green, the rest of the house was old lady beige,

[Bobby Cash]

Hung on a wall for 3/4 of a century and then a decade in a closet.

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[Dave Suponski]

Great find Bobby and a 1 frame to boot!

[charlie cleveland]

great gun and i like the part about hanging on the wall them 75 years....hope you shoot her some after grandpa finally trusted you enough to take it off the wall.... charlie

[Bobby Cash]

I had the best gunsmith west of the Atlantic check out my new DH.
Minimum barrel wall thickness of .030 each barrel.
Tight on face and hingepin, carried moderately, shot less.
Bore diameter of .730
.038 choke right
.040 choke lest
2 5/8 " chambers

I shot a Federal paper hull, 1 oz @ at 1150 FPS at 5100 PSI.
Beautiful patterns at 30 yards.

Whats the value of a 1 frame Damascus, 80-85% overall condition??

[Richard Flanders]

Nice!! What a find. How about more details?? bbl length - looks to be 28" or greater? stock dimensions, no mods I assume.

[Rick Losey]

Nice!! What a find. How about more details?? bbl length - looks to be 28" or greater? stock dimensions, no mods I assume.



That was in the first thread on this neat old piece

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7268

[Bobby Cash]

Parker #129168 has surviving factory information and a letter has been requested.

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The Family story goes like this,
The Great Grandfather purchased the gun in 1904 using the first paycheck he earned. East Coast.
A graded Parker was $100 ?

12 gauge DH with Damascus barrels on a #1 frame, splinter forend, pistol grip, skeletal butt.
Bore diameter of .730, both barrels
Minimum Barrel Wall Thickness of .030, both barrels
Unstruck weight of 3 /6
.038 choke right
.040 choke left
2 5/8 " chambers
14 1/8 x 1 3/8 x 2 5/8
6lbs 9oz

Sometime after the Second World War, The Great Grandfathers' gun was hung on a wall in the house of his daughter (the Grandmother). 30 years later when the Grandmother no longer needed the big house, her daughter (the Mother) took over the household and the caretaking duties for the old Parker.
After another 30 years, the original owners' Great Grand Daughter was given possession of the old gun by her aging mother.
Parker #129168 celebrated the new millenium as a closet queen and had remained cloistered until about a month ago.

This gun is not mint/museum quality but is a very beautiful, original condition graded Parker.
It has earned it's scars as a moderately carried, lightly fired, unmolested, fourth generation, wall hanging closet queen.

Perfect screws, beautiful sound wood, good Demascus pattern remaining (underbarrels are better with best under the forend), beautiful case colors in protected areas with some original case colors showing in patina'd areas. Clean bores, crisp triggers, tight action, hingepin and face.
The coolest thing is the Damascus pattern on the sides of the rib.

I've had the gun inspected by Master Gunsmith Les Pittman here on the West coast. All is good.
I've reloaded some 2 3/4" Federal paper hulls with a Windjammer wad, Win 209 primer, a smidge of Hodgdon powder and an ounce of lead.
5100 PSI per the Hodgdon recipe book.

We shot a pair of these pillow soft reloads through the damascus barrels.
The gun threw a beautiful 2 foot pattern approximately 60/40 at 30 paces.
Was it my imagination or do Damascus barrels "sound" different?
Am I setting myself up for a future disaster with the 2 3/4" hulls and the 2 5/8" chambers??

I'm not a 12 gauge guy.
I'm not a DH guy
I'm not a Damascus guy.
Can someone please help me with value?

Thank you,
Bobby

[David Weber]

From what we can see it deserves a full restoration IMHO

Best Regards, George


Looks perfect just the way it is, beautiful original gun.

[Steve Huffman]

IMHO , You touch that gun with anything but oil you arnt right in the head ! I may put a little WD40 on a cloth and remove that paint. You dont want that gun in that condition I know for sure that there is many of us that would.

[greg conomos]

No way should you restore that gun. I wouldn't even put any oil on it or even touch it. A gun that sweet should be hung up on a wall for all to see.

[Dave Suponski]

A gun that nice should be exercised regularly....:)

[Craig Larter]

I wish it was hanging on my wall!

[E Robert Fabian]

On the question of value, a 1 frame 12 DH similar to yours was sold in the 5500 dollar range recently.

[Richard Flanders]

Wouldn't that make a great Argentina dove gun?! I'd love to have a 1-frame D-grade but when I shoot a 30" F/F gun it's generally with heavy loads which doesn't make much sense with a 1-frame. My 1-1/2 frame is punishing enough with stout loads, enough that I don't do it any more. My 26" 1-frame GHE12 on the other hand is a sterling little grouse/woodcock killer. I'd be all over this D if it had short bbls....

[Brian Dudley]

In looking at the photos, the tiggers look different or should I say interesting in form. Or is it just me?

[Richard Flanders]

I noticed that the rear trigger is a bit far forward.

[davidweirjr]

Nice gun I have a 1878 Parker gun love the way they shoot I am a new member guys

[Rick Losey]

Nice gun I have a 1878 Parker gun love the way they shoot I am a new member guys

Welcome, why not start a thread with pictures of your Parker, we do like to see them :)

[Chuck Bishop]

Bobby,

Got your two research letter requests. Working on them now.

BTW the copy of the research letter you sent had the wrong barrel length listed. Should be 26". I'm sending you a new letter along with the other two.

CB

[Bobby Cash]

Thank you Chuck for all of your hard work.
A Herculean task, most of which is ahead of you.