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BillStribling
05-31-2012, 10:04 PM
I have a "G" grade 10 gauge Parker that has a browned finish by a professional gunsmith. What was the original finish on this gun? I have noticed on this forum, most of the guns shown seem to have no finish, with the damascus pattern very visible. What should be done to return this shotgun to its correct finish?

Angel Cruz
05-31-2012, 10:20 PM
Hello Bill and welcome to the forum. I'm partial to having the patina removed and have the bbls look like the day they left the factory. I happen to love looking at the different patterns and contrast between the different metals. I send all my bbls to Dale Edmonds 816-444=2040. I'll try and post a picture of his work.

BillStribling
05-31-2012, 10:37 PM
Thanks, I would like to see the pics, and see what my gun should look like.

Angel Cruz
05-31-2012, 11:02 PM
Here you go Bill

Dean Romig
06-01-2012, 04:12 AM
Nice looking barrels Angel - who did them?

Angel Cruz
06-01-2012, 07:04 AM
Dean, they were done by Dale

Brian Dudley
06-01-2012, 08:06 AM
Original finish by Parker would have been blackened (Black and White), much like Angel's photos show. Original Browned finish is more of an English thing.

The way you see barrels today with original finish that mostly silver with the pattern still shwoing is just natural wear of the original finish. The pattern becomes less and less visable over time, unless properly cared for.

Some prefer Browning for restoring the pattern because it still gives an antique look. And a good deal of original finishes have been seen that have a Browned look because that is how they have naturally aged.

Rick Losey
06-01-2012, 08:19 AM
as Brian states and Angel's refinish shows - the black & white is the original finish - BTW -the difference is a matter of boiling the browned barrel during the finishing process to change the brown to black. Even a popular British browning formula will turn black (according to the late Tony Treadwell) when boiled

here is a sample some remaining original finish protected by the forend -- faded but you can see the black.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg195/setterw/109_4490.jpg

BillStribling
06-01-2012, 08:31 AM
Thanks for all of the replies. If I can figure out how to do it, I'll send some pics of my Parker.

Brian Dudley
06-01-2012, 09:06 AM
Posting pics on this site is easy. You can attach just like in your e-mail.

calvin humburg
06-01-2012, 10:57 PM
Bill I was going to put some pictures of mine on but the computer kicked my but resized 3 times and it still talked back. If you want to look at some more barrels googal "circle fly wads". click on Damascus mine are the 2nd and 3rd picts from top. ch

Drew Hause
06-03-2012, 09:54 AM
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/17227428

Bill Murphy
06-04-2012, 12:29 PM
Drew, what's the story about the faked up Bernard marking on the rib you pictured in the last post? What kind of steel was used in that set of barrels?

Drew Hause
06-04-2012, 02:28 PM
Bill - I think those Twist barrels upon which some doofus engraved 'Bernard' were discussed here a couple of years ago.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/17227428/388659561.jpg

Wonder if this happened Monday morning after a St. Pat's Sunday? :shock:

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/17227428/397520303.jpg

Bill Murphy
06-04-2012, 05:05 PM
In the sixties, we used to see all sorts of remarked and partially reribbed Parker barrels to disquise sleeved and blued Damascus Parkers. Some of these mismarked guns would have value except for the markings. One example of a remarked sleeved gun that has not only value but character is my Lefever sleeved DH which was professionally remarked by Lefever, "Parker Brothers Meriden, Conn. Lefever Steel". The marking looks more like a Parker rib marking than the original. I have not seen another like it.

calvin humburg
06-05-2012, 08:49 AM
No, he went to the same spelling school I attended. You see a man does not need an education to be great. Education is why our country is the way it is. Oh, I'm not great.