Skeleton Buttplate 20 gauge size

[tom tutwiler]

If anyone has one they can measure I'd appreciate it. Also, were the skeleton buttplates the same size on the two different 20 gauge frame sizes?

[Dean Romig]

Hi Tom, any frame size other than the 0-frame for a 20 gauge would have been a specialiy ordered gun... what other 20 gauge frame size are you referring to?

[tom tutwiler]

Hi Tom, any frame size other than the 0-frame for a 20 gauge would have been a specialiy ordered gun... what other 20 gauge frame size are you referring to?


Ah, the rest of the story. I found the Skeleton Buttplate from s/n 177244, which the serial number book lists as a DHE 20 gauge with 32" barrels. Rare bird and I'm thinking this might have been one of the ones that went to California to hunt ducks back in the day. Accordingly, I thought it might have been built on a 1 frame because that was (I believe) and option.

[Dean Romig]

I hope someday you find the skeleton buttplate from Rear Admiral Thos. Perry's DH 20 ga. ;)

[tom tutwiler]

My 20 gauge Parker DHE is built on a number one frame. I am not sure how rare or unusual that might be ??? Jent


Jent,
What's the size of that skeleton? Mine is 5 1/8" x 1 5/8".

[Dave Noreen]

The Brothers P did many wonderful things to achieve a customer's desired weigth and balance with their guns. Quite often two guns of the same frame size will different sized stocks. As I recall, back in the day, when Kevin and I made a lightning road trip up into Pennsylvania to lay his "Grandma's Gun" next to one of its sisters from that little nest of four 0-frame, 28-gauge, Damascus barrel, GH-Grades, one gun had a decidedly larger stock than the other. Unfortunately, this is the only picture from that family reunion I have scanned in and it doesn't really show the difference very well.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Parker/GrandmasGunandHerSister.jpg

[Harold Lee Pickens]

I can measure the skeleton butt plate from my Dhe 16 O frame if that would help. Isn"t that Don Miller from New Wilmington,Pa in the picture? He has not shown me that gun when at his house. I recently lost my old English Setter, Speck, that I bought off of Don--and he hunts a dog he bought off of me.

[tom tutwiler]

I can measure the skeleton butt plate from my Dhe 16 O frame if that would help. Isn"t that Don Miller from New Wilmington,Pa in the picture? He has not shown me that gun when at his house. I recently lost my old English Setter, Speck, that I bought off of Don--and he hunts a dog he bought off of me.

That would be great to know. Thanks

[Jim DiSpagno]

The overall size of the butt end of the 20 ga. stock as oppossed to the 16 ga. in the "0" frames were significantly different with the 20 ga. being smaller. I found this out when trying an "0" frame 16 ga. butt stonk on a 20ga. frame. The head matched up but the butt plate from the original 20 ga. stock was too small. Jim

[Bill Murphy]

The gauge of the two guns would not be the determining factor. #0 frame guns of whatever gauge were commonly fitted with #0 size or #1 size stocks depending on the desired weight or fit. To add a bit, a #1 frame gun is also commonly stocked with a #0 frame stock.

[Bob Jurewicz]

Ah, the rest of the story. I found the Skeleton Buttplate from s/n 177244, which the serial number book lists as a DHE 20 gauge with 32" barrels. Rare bird and I'm thinking this might have been one of the ones that went to California to hunt ducks back in the day. Accordingly, I thought it might have been built on a 1 frame because that was (I believe) and option.

Tom,
I own #177244!!!!!!!!
It is as you describe and was restored and restocked to original configuration. It is on a O frame with original 2 3/4" chambering as stated in the PGCA letter. It is a CA duck gun of the era.
Thank you!
Bob Jurewicz

[Dean Romig]

WOW... It really does happen!! Reuniting long-lost parts with the gun they came from.

[tom tutwiler]

Tom,
I own #177244!!!!!!!!
It is as you describe and was restored and restocked to original configuration. It is on a O frame with original 2 3/4" chambering as stated in the PGCA letter. It is a CA duck gun of the era.
Thank you!
Bob Jurewicz

Good copy on that Bob. I have zero problem with a swap and sent you an email with particulars on the buttplate itself. I'm out of town until tomorrow afternoon, so I may not be able to check my emails until tomorrow afternoon. Tom

[Harold Lee Pickens]

Skeleton butt plate size on DHE 16 O frame-- 5 1/8 X 1 7/8

[Bobby Cash]

So Tom,
How were you able to convince Bob to turn over the 20 gauge
so you could reunite your buttplate with its' long lost gun?

[tom tutwiler]

So Tom,
How were you able to convince Bob to turn over the 20 gauge
so you could reunite your buttplate with its' long lost gun?

Offered Bob a swap of the buttplate if he could find an original Parker 20 Gauge skeleton in trade.

[tom tutwiler]

Skeleton butt plate size on DHE 16 O frame-- 5 1/8 X 1 7/8

Thanks Harold. This one is indeed smaller, so it certainly was made for a 20 ga.