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fritz dornan
05-18-2012, 08:36 AM
How common in that a guns serial number is not in the Book? Does it mean anything more that it was just did n ot make it to the book? It is a 103,000 number

Mark Ouellette
05-18-2012, 09:33 AM
Fritz,

The "Book" states that about 156,000 of 242,487 Parker records were found at Remington and are included. That's 65% which is a heck of a lot more records that available for LC Smith, AH Fox, or Lefever. I think that the availability of records is one factor that makes Parker guns so collectable!

Mark

fritz dornan
05-18-2012, 09:58 AM
Thanks Mark.....Looks like it is not a big deal or unusual that a gun did not make it to the "book". I would agree records are a big part of why Parkers are so collectable.

Fritz

Bill Murphy
05-18-2012, 02:21 PM
Fritz, the whole situation about availability of serial number information is explained on page 58 and forward in the Serialization Book. Page 58 begins the "Inventory of Stock Books", which are available for research and which are missing, by serial number. Charlie Price has a stash of information that adds a few numbers to the list of available numbers, so some numbers appear that are not actually included in the Stock Book Inventory. The authors also searched the "Order Books" for additional numbers, such numbers by example are shown in the Appendeces of The Parker Story. Since our researchers have full use of the "Order Books" as well as the "Stock Books", numbers that are missing from the Serialization Book are still quite likely to be available to the PGCA Researcher. In other words, the SB is only one of several research vehicles available to collectors.

George Lander
05-18-2012, 04:38 PM
Fritz: Also, there is quite a bit of information that can sometimes be obtained from Griffin & Howe on guns sold by Abercrombie & Fitch, VonLengerke & Detmold and VonLengerke & Antoine that may not be in the SB, Go to www.griffinhowe.com/research-main.cfm
to see if your gun is there.

Best Regards, George

Robert Beach
05-18-2012, 05:25 PM
A 12 gauge VHE walked into our shop the other day and it had been suggested to the owner that the barrels may have been cut since the matting went right to the front edge of the barrels. The gun was among the missing in the Parker records but when I checked I found that it was sold at VL&D in 1917 with 28 inch barrels - the same length that they are now. Please call if you have a question about a Parker that you own - or hope to own. Just check the serial number on the research page of our website. Just be prepared to learn that it was originally a lower grade than it appears to be now.

I'll see you at Hausmann's. I have all of our Parker records in my computer.

Bob Beach
Griffin & Howe, Inc.
http://www.griffinhowe.com/research-main.cfm

Dave Suponski
05-18-2012, 06:36 PM
Thank You Bob, I look forward to meeting you at Hidden Hollow!

Bill Murphy
05-18-2012, 06:52 PM
Mr. Beach is a serious researcher who is interested in adding to our research files. Thanks, Bob.

Dean Romig
05-18-2012, 10:45 PM
Whenever I have sought a research letter fromm Bob Beach, whether a Parker or another gun, he has always provided me with a whole lot more information than I ever expected.

George Lander
05-19-2012, 12:34 AM
Thank You Bob! You Are A Class Act!

Best Regards, George