would like too know?

[Robert Webb]

Hello, I have a 12 Ga. double barrel twin hammer Parker that I or several gun shops can not find any numbers at all.I am trying to find someone can tell me something that can help me date the gun.
Thanks Bob

[Rick Losey]

Hello, I have a 12 Ga. double barrel twin hammer Parker that I or several gun shops can not find any numbers at all.I am trying to find someone can tell me something that can help me date the gun.
Thanks Bob

please post some pictures.

there are guns marked Parker that were made in Belgium that have no connection to the American Parker Brothers guns.

And I think there was a British maker named Parker at one time

[Robin Lewis]

There are other shotguns with the name Parker on them. For the most part they were affordable utility shotguns of their day. Most were well used and will appear in poor condition today. Your shotgun is not a Parker Bros. shotgun if it is marked by any of these makers from the U.S. or Belgian:


C. Parker & Co (Belgian)
E.D. Parker (Belgian)
Field Parker & Son. E. D. Parker (Belgian)
Parker-Smith-Williams
Parker Trap Gun
T. Parker (Belgian)
T. Parker New York (Crescent Fire Arms)
Thomas Parker
W.Parker New Pin Fire

If your shotgun is marked Parker Bros. or is not listed above, look here (http://parkerguns.org/forums/../pages/identification.html) for more identifying information.

[Robert Webb]

Thanks to all but the gun is a Parker made in mass but I will continue to look for the numbers.
Thanks Bob

[Eric Eis]

Bob take some photos and post them.

[Dean Romig]

By the term "made in mass" do you mean 'made in quantity' or 'made in Massachusetts' ?

[Mark Ouellette]

Robert,

Was your Parker made in Massachusetts or Meridian Connecticut?

Mark

[Robert Webb]

I am sorry it is Meridian Connecticut and after more research I found the date and serial or patent number it was made in 1875.Thanks for all your help everyone at least now I might be able to find its worth.
Thanks Bob

[Robert Webb]

Hello sorry to bother everybody again I thought I found the serial number but again I was wrong. Does anyone have any ideas where the serial number might be on this gun? It has a little silver badge inlaid on the stock. Sorry to be so ignorant regarding Parkers. When a friend helps me with how to post pictures I will give it a try. Thanks again for your aid.
Bob

[Rick Losey]

Does anyone have any ideas where the serial number might be on this gun? Bob


it should be on each part, on the action on the water table ( the flat area the barrels set on) on the trigger guard, the underside of the barrels and the metal of the foreend are the most visable

[Robert Webb]

Hello, sorry to bother everyone again I did find a number that looks hand written on the trigger guard (22957) would that be the serial number??
Thanks again Bob

[Rick Losey]

Hello, sorry to bother everyone again I did find a number that looks hand written on the trigger guard (22957) would that be the serial number??
Thanks again Bob

That number gun should be a 12 bore lifter with 30 inch barrels,
pistol grip stock

I would look for the same number on other parts to be sure they match.


also - no bother - some of us actually like to talk about Parkers every now and then :rotf:

[Robert Webb]

Thank you, yes that describes the gun so that is the serial number? Also would you know the value of the gun or how to find out?
Thanks Bob

[Rick Losey]

Thank you, yes that describes the gun so that is the serial number? Also would you know the value of the gun or how to find out?
Thanks Bob

the people who can (and I am not one) make an attempt at that will need to see clear photos, close ups of the stock, action(top sides bottom), barrels and an honest desription of the bore condition.
( and even then, I would say its only a best guess without the piece in hand )

[Robert Webb]

Thank you very much for your help at least I know more today than I did yesterday.
Thanks again

[Eric Estes]

I offered to help Bob post pictures of his lifter. Here they are.
15602

15603

15604

15605

15606

15607

15608

15609

15610

[Robert Webb]

Hello Eric , the pictures look good thanks for posting them I hope someone will be able to tell me more about the gun and maybe even the ruff value.
Thank you once again Bob

[Robert Webb]

Hello, I was wondering if the pictures are good enough to enable anyone in telling me something about the gun such as year,grad, or value ?
Thanks Bob

[Brian Dudley]

Well At least it is a Parker. Your serial number looks barely legible on the guard. It will have a S/N marked on the water table and barrel flats. Looks to be a Grade 1. Being an earlier lifter, most were not marked with the Grade. The barrels should be marked with the Type of steel. Looks like a twist variant.

This Parker is very late 1870's or early 1880's

[Rick Losey]

the 22597 serial number dates to 1881

[Robert Webb]

Hello, Thank you both very much for the information. If I were to sell this gun what would be a fair price? I took it to several gun dealers and I was told it would only be worth five hundred dollars and that the gun is in good to very good condition.
Thanks to every one for being so helpful. Bob

[George Lander]

Robert: I believe that your Parker lifter would be worth a bit more than $500 IMHO I would suggest that you order a research letter on your gun from PGCA. A letter can often turn up information that would enhance the value.

Best Regards, George

[Robert Webb]

Hello, and thank you very much. I am about to sound even dumber, but I don't know what a lifter is and also do not know how to request research letter on my gun from PGCA. Also I do not know what IMHO stands for. Now that I exposed my Parker savvy could someone help me with this. Sorry to be so bothersome. Thanks to all of you that aided me so far you have no idea how much this means.
Bob

[George Lander]

Hello Again Bob: Go to the Parker Collectors website & click on www.parkerguns.org/ Scroll down the left side & click on Parker identification. Yours will be at the very end under "Dollar Grades, T Latches & Back Actions" your will be very near the bottom. Lifter Parkers were the second mechanism employed by Parker soon after the Civil War. It derives it's name for the lifter mechanism under the action by which you unbreach the gun. The first mechanism is referred to as the "T Latch" The third and on all employed the top lever for unbreaching.

You can then scroll back up & click "Ordering a Parker Research Letter" that will give you all the info. You should also think bout joining the PGCA. Research letter are less expensive for members than for non-members.

IMHO stands for "In My Humble Opinion"

Best Regards, George

[charlie cleveland]

imho stands for in my honest opinion...for the lifter thats the little latch that opens and closes the gun barrel...thus called the lifter gun by most and to me probably one of the best designs of all the parker guns in IMHO.... CHARLIE

[charlie cleveland]

george you beat me too it by only a hair...thanks charlie

[George Lander]

Honestly Charlie I Am Humbled By Your Sincere Post

Best Regards, George

[Robert Webb]

Hello, Thank you both for the information this will be very helpful.
Bob