Got My Letter Today

[carl scrivani]

My Parker, a PH 12 Gauge was ordered on Jan. 8,1898 by H.D. Folsom in NY, NY. It featured 28" plain twist steel barrel with cylinder and cylinder chokes. LOP was 14 1/4", DOH was 2 5/8". The weight was 7 lbs. 2 ozs. The gun was returned Oct.3, 1898 to have end of muzzle repaired. Charge was $1.50. The gun cost $65.00.

An interesting side note: The owner of H.D. Folsom "accidentally" shot and killed one of his salesmen on 7-2-1900 in the store. Thanks to Mark Conrad for his prompt handling of my research letter.

I haven't done anything to this gun and all serial numbers match. The stock has some crude repairs to it. It appears that this gun has been used. The bores look good and no exterior pitting. I will post some pictures when I figure it out.

Carl

[George Blair]

Carl, nice to see a new member intrested enough to get a letter. You can always count on Mark to give us great service. 7lbs 2oz...is it a 1 frame? Thanks, George

[Craig Larter]

Mark Conrad is the best!! Great service and he is willing to help you out if you need a information on a gun quickly. The letter service is a great asset of membership. Thanks

[Dave Suponski]

You got that right Craig!

[Larry Frey]

Carl,
It's interesting to see that your gun lettered with cylinder and cylinder chokes. Some would have assumed the chokes were opened. Having the ability to prove the originality of a gun is one of the best services the PGCA offers.

[Dean Romig]

Larry is so right! Some of the information contained in a Research Letter will definitely increase the value of a some Parkers. Yours is one example.

[carl scrivani]

George,
On the barrel is marked what looks 1 1/2. I guess that's the frame size.

Carl

[calvin humburg]

You only sold 2 shotguns this month. Carl getting the picturs the right size was the hardest step for me do you know the size? We'll tell you if you don't the size. Thoes fellows doing Parker Pages are pretty special as well. Why there's all kind of good ol boy's in the ranks of this (hey Dean how you spell this) orginization.

[Dean Romig]

(hey Dean how you spell this) orginization.

Pretty darn close Calvin! :clap:

Any turkeys around your place Calvin? Season's getting close. Family good?

[carl scrivani]

I am going to let my lovely fiance to help me with some photos. Thanks to all for your replies.

Carl

[William Maynard]

My Parker, a PH 12 Gauge was ordered on Jan. 8,1898 by H.D. Folsom in NY, NY. It featured 28" plain twist steel barrel with cylinder and cylinder chokes. LOP was 14 1/4", DOH was 2 5/8". The weight was 7 lbs. 2 ozs. The gun was returned Oct.3, 1898 to have end of muzzle repaired. Charge was $1.50. The gun cost $65.00.

An interesting side note: The owner of H.D. Folsom "accidentally" shot and killed one of his salesmen on 7-2-1900 in the store. Thanks to Mark Conrad for his prompt handling of my research letter.

I haven't done anything to this gun and all serial numbers match. The stock has some crude repairs to it. It appears that this gun has been used. The bores look good and no exterior pitting. I will post some pictures when I figure it out.

Carl
Great history on the gun... Not so good for the salesman!

[calvin humburg]

Yes Dean there's a flock that comes through I need to get a feeder up so maybe they will stay around. My kids are growing up fast. It's sad what the leader's deam right to infect there minds with, the crap they put on TV. God please be with us all expecially are young ones. ch

[Jack Cronkhite]

Here's a NY Times account of the Folsom Incident. SOURCE (http://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns/historic-hdfolsom.php)

SHOT BY HIS EMPLOYER; Head of H. & D. Folsom Arms Company Under Arrest. Says Second-Hand Revolver Was Accidentally Discharged --- Peter Koller, Wounded Man Now in Hospital.

New York Times, July 3, 1900, Wednesday

While examining a pile of old revolvers lying on a counter in the store of the H. D. Folsom Arms Company at 314 Broadway, yesterday noon. Henry T. Folsom, the head of the firm accidentally, shot and fatally injured Peter Koller, one of the salesmen. Koller, unconscious and in a dying condition, was taken to the Hudson Street Hospital. The bullet entered his right breast, and although the doctors probed for it, they could not find it.
The revolver with which the shooting was done was one of a consignment of second-hand weapons which had just been delivered to the firm by the Adams Express Company.
Mr. Folsom and Koller were looking over the revolvers during the noon hour to see if any were loaded. Picking up one of the largest, a .38-calibre, Folsom pulled the trigger. A report that could be heard on the sidewalk followed, and Koller staggered back and fell to the floor, with his hand clasped to his right side.
Those in the store stood dazed for an instant. Mr. Folsom, who was the first to recover sent one of the salesmen for a policeman. Policeman Daniel Nealis hurried into the store. He found Mr. Folsom and several Clerks bending over the prostate form of Koller.
The policeman says that when he asked how the man was shot, Mr. Folsom replied “ He must have shot himself accidentally. The policeman immediately summoned an ambulance from the Hudson Street Hospital.
When Ambulance Surgeon Page arrived he said the man was probably mortally injured. He was removed hurriedly to the hospital.
It was not until 3:30 o’clock that Policeman Nealis again entered the store. He could not understand how the man could shoot himself accidentally in the right breast. To a reporter he said:” I went up to Mr. Folsom, and I says to him, Mr. Folsom, you shot that man.” “Yes” says Mr. Folsom. “ I shot him. I was holding the pistol in my hand when it went off. It was an accident”
Nealis told Folsom he would have to arrest him. The latter submitted quietly and the two went to the Macdougal Street Station, where Mr. Folsom was locked up.
A few minutes after 7 o’clock Justus Von Lengerke of the firm Von Lengerke & Detmold, arrived at the station house in company with Magistrate Meade. The Magistrate fixed Mr. Folsom’s bail at $5,000 and Mr. Von Lengerke qualified as Folsom’s bondsman. The trio then left the station house together.
At the store of the Folsom Arms Company all information as to the details of the shooting were withheld. No one in the store would admit that he had been a witness to the affair.
Koller is one of the oldest salesmen in the employ of the firm, having been there for over twenty-two years. He is married and lives with his wife at 212 Lewis Avenue, Brooklyn. Word was immediately sent to his wife, and she arrived late in the afternoon. He regained consciousness for a time while she was there, but soon lapsed into unconsciousness again.
Mr. Folsom is President of the H. & D. Folsom Arms Company. His home is in Orange, New Jersey. He is a member of the University Athletic, Yale Athletic and University Clubs of the Essex County Country Club of Orange.
At midnight Koller was still living and Dr. Page said there was a faint ray of hope that the man would recover, although the chances were that he would not live more than a day or two. Late in the evening Coroner Hart visited the hospital and took down a statement from the injured man, in which he fully exonerated Mr. Folsom, declaring that it was an accident, pure and simple.

[Larry Mason]

It is amazing how fast Mark gets the letters and info out. I just sent him my forms the end of last week and I received four back today. They were dated 3 April 2012 and today is the 4 April. The letters also look great!
I do not belong to many clubs or organizations due to the fact that, why would I join any thing that would have someone like me as a member. But the wisdom, knowledge and dedication of these gentleman and woman are very, very special.

................And welcome Carl.