10ga barrel weight

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

What are the lowest and highest weights in 10ga barrels in 32" that the group has seen. Just purchased a 10 bore lifter, waiting for the letter, looks to be high grade dollar gun gold shield on round pistol grip,SKBP. The barrels look huge 7lbs, looks like they took a set of 8ga brls and bored them for ten.

[Mark Landskov]

My 1879 Lifter 10 has 32" barrels marked 6-3. The gun is made on a '3' frame.

[Bill Murphy]

I have measured the wall thickness on a #6 frame ten. The least wall thickness is .100". If the .775" ten gauge bores were enlarged to .835" eight gauge diameter, the minimum wall thickness would be .070, plenty for a safe eight gauge. That gun weighs 13 pounds, 8 ounces.

[Dave Purnell]

I have a 1883 10ga checkhook lifter, 32", 3 frame, marked 5-6.

Dave

[Craig Parker]

I also have 10ga 32" marked 5-6 hammer w/ trap BP, picked from a good member on here. Which in turn started me on quest for more 10's. Thanks Russ.lol

Thanks Craig

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Bill, that sounds like an awesome gun you have, This gun I have is a 4frame can't wait to get home and measure the wall thickness, The gun weighs 10lb 11oz. I got this gun from Puglisi you can still see it I think His stock #1101

[Frank Cronin]

Real nice hammer gun Gary.... I drooled every time I saw that gun on Puglisi's website...

Congrats!

[charlie cleveland]

my p grade with 32 inch barrels says 6 pound 14 oz on a three frame.... charlie

[John Truitt]

#2 frame top lever hammer gun 28" 10 ga two barrel set (both 28" 10 ga's)
first: 3 lbs 13 oz
second: 4 lbs 3 oz

sorry i did not see you asked for 32"ers. please ignore my post

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

John, on the contrary it is interesting to see these barrel weights allover the place. I guess Parker tried to get the gun to weigh what the customer wanted but looks like it would pit the gun off balance . After all you can only put so much counter weight in the stock. I do not have any way to measure here where I am at but the barrel thickness at the breach is got to be over 3/8 of an inch. Is this where they put some metal to try and balance the gun? Bill how does your gun balance?

[Bill Murphy]

Gary, in my present condition, I can't lift the old girl to the shoulder. I'm sure she feels just wonderful in the hands of someone who goes to the gym every day.

[Bill Murphy]

Gary, most #4 frame graded tens were made at almost exactly 11 pounds for competition shooting. If you get a name on your order, shoot it to me and I'll see if I can identify him as a known competitor.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Bill, I will do, hope to get my letter anyday now,

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Bill, the gun was sold to T Carter in Salt lake City Utah Sept 15 1879 then to Nelson Soule in Paducah KY Sept 2 1881

[Bill Murphy]

As I recall, Thomas Carter was a frontier merchandiser, trading post operator and dealer in Parker shotguns. When I bought a Carter gun some years ago, I researched him and found interesting information. I even found a Carter letterhead with an inquiry or a comment about a Parker shotgun on order. Google may get you some interesting information. Reread Kevin McCormack's DGJ article about his B Grade hammer gun. I think there is some Carter information in that article. I may be mistaken about that, but the article is still worth rereading. Sorry, Gary, the letter with the comment about the Parker shotgun was not a Carter letter. In fact, I think your gun is Kevin's old gun from the DGJ article. Congratulations.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Bill, did Kevin sell his B grade hammer gun if so to who? do you know if my ser# is the same as the one he had ? When did he part with the gun, I know these are a bunch of questions but if it is the same gun that he used to have what a coincidence

[Bill Murphy]

I don't think it's a coincidence. We sell guns and they flow around the market. Some vendors are not interested in the history of the gun, only in the "transfer" of the gun. It's up to you to put the history together if you want to. The serial number is in Kevin's article and you can compare it to your gun.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

I will look the article up when I get home in April, can't wait to read it.

[Bill Murphy]

#13565 is the serial number mentioned in Kevin's article. He also mentions the same shipping date that you mention. Kevin can fill you in on the owner of the gun after him. I find it hard to understand why the seller of the gun did not identfy the gun as a Grade 5 since Kevin's article states that the water table is marked with the grade.

[Thomas L. Benson Sr.]

I have a 10Ga. with 34 inch barrels that are weight stamped 9 pounds.. 7 0z. gun total weight is 14 pounds. its a bruiser. Thanks Thomas

[Bill Murphy]

What frame size?

[Thomas L. Benson Sr.]

Bill: Frame size 5 Thomas

[Bill Murphy]

Those #5 frames have to be very scarce.

[Thomas L. Benson Sr.]

Bill: You would be hard pressed to find another one but it is possible. Thomas

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Bill, My gun has no grade stamp on the water table, It is a dollar graded gun. Will contact Kevin Thanks, Gary

[charlie cleveland]

thomas what is the chamber lenth of thiscannon...2 7/8 or 3 1/2.... charlie

[Thomas L. Benson Sr.]

Charlie: It is the 3 1/2 chambers and they are quite thick. Thomas

[Kurt Densmore]

Some interesting information on the weights:
I seemed to have lost my most recent recordings of guns so here is what I had in the more distant past or still have in the safe.

10ga 0 lifter #2 frame 1877 28" twist bbls 4^10
10ga 2 lifter #3 frame 34" 1879 laminated bbls 6^7
10 ga D top lever #3 frame 30" 1886 damascus bbls 6^0
10ga DH #3 frame 32" 1891 damascus bbls 6^1
10ga CH #2 frame 30" 1892 Bernard bbls 4^11

I had a 5 frame lifter and I am thinking it was around 7 something

Kurt

[Mark Landskov]

The variety is interesting! My 1886 Toplever 10 has 30" Laminated barrels marked '5'. It makes for a svelte 10 bore compared to some. Cheers!