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David Dwyer
10-07-2009, 08:12 AM
Does anyone know what the Parkers sold yesturday at Julia for?
David

Robin Lewis
10-07-2009, 09:21 AM
Here are the numbers (without the added buyes commission):
A1 Pair $225K
A1 16ga $75K
AAHE 12ga $40K
AAHE 12ga $55K
AHE 12ga $17.5K
BHE 28ga $35K
CHE 12ga $20K
BHE 12ga $9K
AHE 20ga $18K
AAHE 12ga $26K
AHE 12ga $14.5K
BHE 12ga $22K (Annie Oakley)
BHE 12ga $9K
BHE 20ga $13K
CHE 20ga $65K
DHE 28ga $24K
GHE 410ga $29K
VHE 410ga $32K
VHE 410ga $16K (Turnbull restored)
SC 12ga $4K
DHE 16ga $5K
DH 16ga $5K
GHE 20ga $7K
DHE 12ga $4.75K
GHE 20ga $25K
GHE 16ga $7.5K
AH 10ga $6K
GH 20ga $3.4K
GH 12ga $3K (2 BBL set)
VHE 16ga $5.1K
VHE 16ga $4.75 (skeet)
VH 20ga $3.5K
VHE 16ga $3.25K
VH 16ga $3K
VHE 12ga $2K
VH 16ga $2.5K
Trojan 16ga $2K
Trojan 12ga $1.6K
Custom? 20ga $4.5K
DHE Repro 28-28-410 $16K
BHE Repro 20ga $9.5K (2 BBL set)
DHE Repro 12ga 2.5K
DHE Repro 20ga $3.75K
Grade 2 lifter 10ga $4K (Cased)
Parker Paper $3.25K

Dean Romig
10-07-2009, 09:49 AM
What, no lot numbers? :duck:

Robin Lewis
10-07-2009, 10:03 AM
If you have the catalog, the prices I posted follow the lot numbers in order - first to last. It should be easy to follow. If you don't have the catalog, lot numbers don't mean much.:duck:

Dean Romig
10-07-2009, 10:16 AM
Thanks Robin.

Larry Frey
10-07-2009, 12:37 PM
Thanks for the info Robin. It would seem either the market is very soft or Julia really overestimated some of these guns. I did not check them all but the first ten items failed to reach even the low estimate by approximately $160,000.00. The one gun that jumps right out at me is the CHE 20 that you list as sold for $65K. I am guessing you meant $6.5K. It's a nice gun but with a pinned wrist and the wood and barrels redone I don't believe someone would pay $65K plus commission.

Eric Eis
10-07-2009, 03:30 PM
I wonder how many of those guns made their reserve... :eek:

Don Kaas
10-07-2009, 03:53 PM
Time to re-value the asset side of the balance sheet Eric:shock:

Robin Lewis
10-07-2009, 04:10 PM
I noticed the same thing even before the Parkers came up on the block, minimums were not met on many of the guns.

Sorry about the type-O, I make no guarantee for accuracy -It has been said that you get what you pay for and you can guess how much I was paid to enter all that!

John Dunkle
10-07-2009, 04:15 PM
....guess how much I was paid to enter all that!
Well - if it's any consolation - I make a motion that we double your salary, Robin.. :)

Hang on.. Let me get out my abacus.....

OK...

Two.....

Times.....

Zero....

Equals...????

Hang on - my abacus is busted....

:)

Actually - and seriously - I really appreciate your posting that information. While I tried to attend the auction as I wanted to bid on a few of the Parkers, I got called away to sponsor a shoot yesterday.

Anyway - Thanks Robin!

:cheers:

JD

Bill Murphy
10-07-2009, 04:34 PM
Is Don implying that my VH 12 gauges aren't worth more than $225.00? I was hoping for a bit of an increase in value over the years.

George Lander
10-07-2009, 06:20 PM
The catalogue is still on line for any that don't have the printed version.

Best Regards, George

Bill Murphy
10-07-2009, 06:31 PM
Yeah, click on the gun section of the website, click on "current auction", use the search function for "parker" and the guns will appear in the order in which Robin posted them. Thank you, Robin. I hate waiting for the prices to appear on the website. Let's hit the "thanks" button on Robin's post. I just did that.

Bill Murphy
10-07-2009, 06:41 PM
A couple of years ago, Kevin McCormack and I were talking to a fellow we have known since I was a kid and Kevin wasn't much older and he was telling us how he doubled his money when he bought the pair of A1 Specials that sold in the auction for $225,000. Kevin may correct my memory, but I think he paid $2500 and sold them for $5000, maybe it was less. Abercrombie and Fitch paid $325. Another friend of Kevin's and mine owned the guns in between our other friend and the consignor. If we grill our friends about whom they purchased the guns from, we would have an amazing, almost complete history of this pair of guns and a 6000 percent ??? appreciation. Or is it 60,000 percent ???

James T. Kucaba
10-07-2009, 08:02 PM
Mr. Murphy,
I know you like guns with some provenance, so how many of the Lee Marvin pieces did you buy from the Julia Auction ?


Jim Kucaba ... AriZOOna Cactus Patch ... Email: JimKucaba@aol.com

Bill Murphy
10-07-2009, 09:04 PM
I'll have to go back to the website and see what Lee was selling.

James T. Kucaba
10-08-2009, 03:40 AM
I'll have to go back to the website and see what Lee was selling.


Bill ... Lee Marvin was one of my favorite actors, but I hardly think Lee is very capable of selling anything ... from his grave at Arlington National Cemetery.


Jim Kucaba ... AriZOOna Cactus Patch ... Email: JimKucaba@aol.com

Bill Murphy
10-08-2009, 08:25 AM
James, you really think that I don't know where Mr. M Squad dwells?

James Brown
10-09-2009, 12:36 PM
Results are published on Julia web site. Looks like the A1 pair (and several others) did not sell.
James

Robin Lewis
10-09-2009, 01:25 PM
WOW, that's says that 30% of the Parkers didn't sell!?

Dave Suponski
10-09-2009, 01:34 PM
Wow is right Robin! I wonder... a sign of our lousy economy? Or has our beloved Parkers topped out....or both.

Dean Romig
10-09-2009, 01:36 PM
Would you say that it "pays" or "doesn't pay" to set a reserve??

I think it "pays" by protecting your investment. Guaranteed there were a lot of people who intended to capitalize in this auction because of the economy.

No Dave, I don't believe Parkers have "topped out" but for the time being I think they are stable with regard to the economy.

David Dwyer
10-09-2009, 01:38 PM
The Julia website does not seem to like me(they may not be the only ones! )
and will not let me register to see the results. Can anyone tell me which ones did not sell? I thought the prices were fair considering the condition of the guns.
David

Larry Frey
10-09-2009, 01:43 PM
Dave, go here and scroll down about half way.

http://jamesdjulia.com/auctions/div_catalog_278.asp?pageREQ=no

Robin Lewis
10-09-2009, 01:59 PM
Here are the numbers (without the added buyes commission) and * for not meeting reserve:
* A1 Pair $225K
A1 16ga $75K
* AAHE 12ga $40K
AAHE 12ga $55K
* AHE 12ga $17.5K
* BHE 28ga $35K
CHE 12ga $20K
BHE 12ga $9K
AHE 20ga $18K
AAHE 12ga $26K
AHE 12ga $14.5K
* BHE 12ga $22K (Annie Oakley)
* BHE 12ga $9K
BHE 20ga $13K
CHE 20ga $6.5K
DHE 28ga $24K
GHE 410ga $29K
VHE 410ga $32K
VHE 410ga $16K (Turnbull restored)
* SC 12ga $4K
DHE 16ga $5K
DH 16ga $5K
* GHE 20ga $7K
DHE 12ga $4.75K
* GHE 20ga $25K
* GHE 16ga $7.5K
AH 10ga $6K
GH 20ga $3.4K
GH 12ga $3K (2 BBL set)
VHE 16ga $5.1K
VHE 16ga $4.75 (skeet)
VH 20ga $3.5K
VHE 16ga $3.25K
* VH 16ga $3K
* VHE 12ga $2K
VH 16ga $2.5K
* Trojan 16ga $2K
Trojan 12ga $1.6K
* Custom? 20ga $4.5K
DHE Repro 28-28-410 $16K
BHE Repro 20ga $9.5K (2 BBL set)
DHE Repro 12ga 2.5K
DHE Repro 20ga $3.75K
Grade 2 lifter 10ga $4K (Cased)
Parker Paper $3.25K

Josh Loewensteiner
10-09-2009, 03:49 PM
Robin,

My notes show the original VHE 410ga at 23k, not 32k.

Robin Lewis
10-09-2009, 03:56 PM
Josh,

I checked my notes.... you are correct. Another type-:o for me.

Oh boy, hear it comes. :duck:

Robin

Bill Murphy
10-09-2009, 08:11 PM
Only 23K for a field used VHE .410 skeet. What is the world coming to?

John Dunkle
10-09-2009, 08:19 PM
Only 23K for a field used VHE .410 skeet.... Actually - a well used VHE skeet... Plus the commission/premium..???

Amazing....

JD

James T. Kucaba
10-09-2009, 08:58 PM
James, you really think that I don't know where Mr. M Squad dwells?

Bill, From the way your post was worded, I didn't think you knew that Lee Marvin had passed away ... That sort of thing happens to all of us at one time or another ... If you took offense ... I sincerely apologize !

Jim Kucaba ... AriZOOna Cactus Patch ... Email; JimKucaba@aol.com

Bill Murphy
10-10-2009, 10:18 AM
I never take offense at you, James. Congratulations on your recovery.