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Dave Noreen
01-20-2012, 10:55 PM
Probably the coolest Parker at Las Vegas is the VHE-Grade, 28-gauge, with vent rib, beavertail, single trigger and no safety. Looks to be a well worn plantation quail gun.
Russ Jackson
01-20-2012, 11:30 PM
AND ????????????????????????? Have you Paid for it yet and packed it up for the trip home ? Sounds like a Real Dandy ! Russ
Gary Carmichael Sr
01-21-2012, 05:20 AM
Did Julia bring some of the guns to display that will be in the march auction?
Brian Dudley
01-21-2012, 07:45 AM
Was that at the Shot Show?
Dave Noreen
01-21-2012, 08:54 PM
This is at Walley Beinfeld's Antique and Sporting Arms Show at the Riviera Hotel & Casino. The gun had a a price tag of $27,500 on it and I've been told it has a sold sign on it this afternoon.
Julia's had a very early lifter, back action hammergun, serial number 59, with Laminated Steel barrels in remarkably nice condition for such a gun. Also a really nice Vulcan .410-bore. The big thing was their Capri Room 112/113 full of great Winchesters. I was in awe with three Model 1886s in .50 Express side by side by side.
Dean Romig
01-21-2012, 10:45 PM
The gun had a a price tag of $27,500 on it and I've been told it has a sold sign on it this afternoon.
It's not surprising it sold so soon. There can't be many like that one!
Patrick Lien
01-25-2012, 02:51 AM
It's not surprising it sold so soon. There can't be many like that one!
It's not surprising it sold so soon. There can't be many like that one!
Well, it took 3 days and lots of trolling by the seller for this gun to sell. It was not a quick process by any means but it very fun to watch! When I first found this gun on setup the price was not 27k and the seller was claiming total Parker ignorance but stated the gun was "totally correct" based on the Parker research that he had the "inside" access to. He did not want to expand on his access method though. Apparently his access told him the gun matched exactly to the records. So my questions to the folks who have access to the Remington cards are:
1. Does the IBM cards show options?
2. Does the IBM cards show stock configuration?
3. Does the IBM cars show forend configuration?
3. Does the IBM cards show choke configuration?
4. Does the IBM cards show NO safety?
5. Does the IBM cards show vent rib?
This gun looked like a Remington skeet gun but was choked mod/full. It did not have high condition but it was a very interesting configuration and I would be curious if there was another like it. This gun also had the Hickory reinforcing rods in the checkered buttstock. I did not realize these rods where still being used in stocks on Remington guns? Perhaps others with Remington guns can confirm?
There was well over 100+ Parkers available at Vegas in every price range and condition. I saw the usual POS guns that were way overpriced and also had the opportunity to see an incredible late Remington AHE magnum 10 and some other high grades and upgrades. I saw guns in "B" and "C" grade and a few were sold but I would say that Parker shooters were not sellable.
On setup I looked at a very nice 16 "P" with 30" barrels on O frame that did not last 1 hour and a "D" grade 20ga. skeet with straight stock walked by our table with a visitor and sold somewhere in the show on setup and did not surface again. There was also a display of Parker Trap/Pigeon guns and the gentleman was very knowledgeable on the history of these guns. Lastly, the paper available was very good and expensive. If you like old prints with dogs, guns, and ammo this was the best that I have seen in the last 3 years on the antique side.
I did not make it into the "dealer" room until Saturday so it was just the internet offerings "in person" with a few exceptions. I was disappointed that I missed seeing the 7E that Steve Barnett had but I did find some other nice guns.
The Vegas show always has good stuff and is by far the best show in the western states. The "finds" for me were not Parkers this year but it was very good in the antique room and as usual we had a fabulous time and found some really good stuff and met some nice people and visited friends! I am already looking forward to next year.
Patrick
Dean Romig
01-25-2012, 05:41 AM
Nice report Patrick.
Re: the hickory reinforcing rod - Not questioning your expertise, just curious - how do you determine a reinforcing rod on such a gun? I know holes were drilled in the butt to add lead or remove wood and then plugged in order to balance the gun but my question echos yours... was Remington still using the reinforcing rod?
Bill Murphy
01-25-2012, 07:54 AM
Patrick, depending on the serial number, a Remington Parker can be provenanced by information in the stock book entry. There can be all sorts of interesting information on the IBM cards, but not often and not complete specifications on any of them. Many of the features of the gun in question are proven by the gun itself. Are you sure that the reinforcing dowel isn't just the plug commonly seen in a checkered butt?
Eric Eis
01-25-2012, 10:00 AM
Patrick,
I have two Remington Skeet guns that lettered to who ordered them..:shock: Rare to be able to find out that but both my 20 ga and 28 ga lettered that way. Also even if it was in skeet confirguration it could be choked M/F, I have a C grade that is that way and I had a V grade 12 ga that was like that . Eric
Patrick Lien
01-25-2012, 10:38 AM
Nice report Patrick.
Re: the hickory reinforcing rod - Not questioning your expertise, just curious - how do you determine a reinforcing rod on such a gun? I know holes were drilled in the butt to add lead or remove wood and then plugged in order to balance the gun but my question echos yours... was Remington still using the reinforcing rod?
Dean,
The checkered butt showed the outline of two circular rods/plugs stacked on top of each other. I assumed these to be reinforcing rods since there were two of them. It was certainly an interesting gun.
Patrick
Bill Murphy
01-25-2012, 11:35 AM
The two plugged holes in a checkered wood butt are common to most Parkers with that butt. It is not normally a hickory reinforcing rod.
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