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Mike Poindexter
12-16-2011, 08:39 PM
Finally got some better pics. It's an 1889 non rebounding hammerless with a couple of unusual (to me) features. 1. Notice the way the grip checkering is cut off at the grip cap. Never seen that before. I checked the wood for serial no. and the buttstock is original, although refinished with a Pachmayr recoil pad added. The checkering looks original. The stock shield is engraved with 3 initials in Old English. 2. The goofy non-factory beavertail with checkering designed to replicate the D and C forend style, but not as well done, no mullered borders, etc. 3. The 1910 boltplate indicates it was sent back to the factory after 20 years for some unknown work. The bores are honed to .800 (from the original .790), and wall thickness minima are .35 +- in the R and .40+- in the L. Chokes are .025 in each 30 in. bbl. 4. No birds on the gun--just dogs. The floorplate setter is the best, but curiously off center. The right side setter looks like he is squatting--not my favorite pose. The left side pointer is done much nicer. 5. Barrel flat stamps are hard to read, D4c, 5lb7 unstruck wt., gun weighs exactly 9 lbs. Note the crosshatching on the watertable. Still there after all these years. Seller thought it was an N grade and priced it accordingly. With issues above, I thought it was a fair price, even for a D. Will shoot it at late season pheasants until my arms get too tired.

Mark Landskov
12-16-2011, 08:46 PM
Very nice, Mike. Enjoy!

Bill Murphy
12-17-2011, 09:02 AM
Wow. What a gun. What does your PGCA letter say about it?

Ed Blake
12-17-2011, 09:09 AM
Love those dogs. Nice find.

charlie cleveland
12-17-2011, 09:42 AM
looks like a early d grade to me...a very good find a nice old gun and dont look like its been shot to much... charlie

Drew Hause
12-17-2011, 10:07 AM
Thanks for posting Mike. That's the first engraved settin' setter than I've seen. A relevant thread http://bbs.shootingsportsman.com/showthread.php?1810-Origin-of-English-quot-Setters-quot

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/13813549/400107931.jpg

Bill Murphy
12-17-2011, 07:12 PM
PGCA letter?

Mike Poindexter
12-18-2011, 12:30 AM
Thanks for asking, Bill. No letter yet, probably after New Years before I get around to it. I'll post if anything interesting turns up.

Austin W Hogan
12-18-2011, 05:03 PM
Early hammerless guns with non rebounding hammers include the best engraved of all DH grade guns in my opinion.
56553 10 ga two frame and 56568 12ga one frame

have a single "looking back" dog on the floorplate.

The large detachable floorplate on the hammerless may have been a design feature to facilitate sending floorplates out for engraving.

Best, Austin

Ed Blake
12-18-2011, 09:33 PM
That forend grows on you. It's very well done and looks like it affords a good grip. Appears to have been made a long time ago.