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scott kittredge
11-25-2011, 04:21 PM
checked bore dia. on my new to me lifter 10 ga. both bores .802. choked left .034, right .030. than i had to shoot it the stock has a slight crack but "one shot wouldn't hurt" so i loaded a 7/8th oz load of 8's with 15 grs 700-x and shot it at a 30 in target and got 94% pattern with it :shock: got to love the 10 . now off to repair shop and i will have it for spring turkey season i hope.:corn: scott
charlie cleveland
11-25-2011, 08:08 PM
that old ten shoots like a rifle... charlie
Dave Suponski
11-25-2011, 08:15 PM
Scott...Scott....:nono:
Mark Landskov
11-25-2011, 08:32 PM
Scott, that certainly is a light load! I have been using an ounce of 7-1/2 in my Baker 10, which is choked full and full, and also get some deadly long range patterns. I can't wait to try them in my new 10, which is choked .049" in both barrels. Enjoy!
Eric Baker
11-25-2011, 09:28 PM
Hey Chief,
At the risk of getting yelled at for asking a non-Parker question what kind of Baker do you have. Back in my gun trading days all my friends thought I should own every old Baker they came across, ended up with 4 total. Batavia Leaders in 20 & 16ga, a Batavia Brush Gun in 12 and a 1897 hammer gun in 12ga with 32" barrels with fantastic twist pattern.
Mark Landskov
11-25-2011, 10:29 PM
I have an 1893 vintage 'New Baker' hammer gun with the trigger plate action. It is odd looking, but very robust. I believe it was the same as the later 1896 Model. Your 1897 is a sidelock, isn't it?
Eric Baker
11-26-2011, 12:27 AM
Yes though similar hammers. Its one of 3 hammer guns that've been disassembled in bins on my bench for at least 4 years. Too many projects, not enough time. I put it together for these photos and remembered why it was apart. Broken top lever spring and right trigger bar spring. Check out those beefy muzzles! Bakers aren't as glamorous as Parkers but very simple and well made. Love that barrel pattern. Congrats on your new Parker, looks like a good one. My only 10ga is an 1878 Colt about a grade 3 I think.
charlie cleveland
11-26-2011, 09:58 AM
i believe those are about the beefest barrels ive seen...now yall got me wanting a baker.... charlie
Robert Rambler
11-26-2011, 10:55 AM
Charlie, No need to cross over to the"Dark Side":). Brothers Parker built some hefty barrels as well. This is an 1887 10ga, barrels still weight 5Lbs 8Oz and the thin spot measures .055.
Eric Baker
11-26-2011, 01:44 PM
Unfortunately (for my bank account) I'm not so particular. I like them big, I like them small, if they have hammers, I like them all! Big: 1878 Colt 10ga. Small: William Powell & Son, Best Grade, Bar-In-Wood, 20 bore.
Robert Rambler
11-26-2011, 02:06 PM
Same here Eric,was just funnin with Charlie.Most anything with sxs barrels and double triggers is all good for me. I think hammer gun style and design is simply timeless elegance.:cool:
Mark Landskov
11-26-2011, 03:47 PM
Eric, here are the muzzles of my 'New Baker'. These are the photos that the seller used for his advertisement. I have since cleaned and 'detailed' the gun thoroughly. It is a somewhat heavy gun. It falls between the Parker 3 and 4 frames. Cheers!
charlie cleveland
11-26-2011, 07:09 PM
i think ive done crossed over into the dark side...i too love big and love small and even if they dont shoot i can hangem on the wall...all jokes aside there is a coupla bakers going pretty cheap on gunbroker rite now.... but i aint bid yet.... charlie
Eric Baker
11-26-2011, 09:25 PM
All good stuff guys. Like that tall rib Mark. Can't wait to see your Baker post Charlie. I've been acumulating damascus and hammer guns since I got back from Japan in 93, before they got so trendy and everyone got so educated about them. Don't even go to gun shows anymore, can't use my favorite gun trading lines. "Damascus barrrels?!! Those aren't safe to shoot are they?" or "16 guage! Do they even make shells for that anymore?"
Eric Baker
11-26-2011, 09:35 PM
Talking about timeless elegance, when I get a chance I'll shoot some photos of the 20 bore Powell and post them on the non Parker section. I don't think there is anything better looking but harder to make than a bar-in-wood gun, and a best grade in 20ga is the "holy grail" of british hammer guns.
Mark Landskov
11-26-2011, 10:41 PM
I am very fond of the 20, and agree, a bar-in-wood Best Grade would be great. For now, I am quite content with my 1929 vintage Trojan. It is a joy to carry when I walk 6 to 8 hours a day looking for grouse. John Puglisi has a few English SxSs in stock, but I never had the nerve to look at them. Temptation, you know!
Eric Baker
11-26-2011, 11:37 PM
Mark, that's a beautiful Trojan, very high condition. What does it weigh? I love a light gun for hunting, my personal favorite is a 16 ga boxlock made in a small custom gunshop in pre-war Tokyo. Got it in Japan, had gun and hunting license there. It weighs 5 lb 8oz ! Lighter than the .410 double I bought last month. Its virtually unshootable on the range but great in the field, carries like a pool cue. Killed three pheasants in KS with it last weekend. You probably won't believe it but I bet you paid more for that Trojan than I paid for that Powell.
calvin humburg
11-27-2011, 06:25 AM
Great guns! I really enjoyed the poems.
Mark Landskov
12-04-2011, 03:32 PM
Eric, I have a 'shoestring budget' right now, so the little Trojan was quite an investment! Even so, if you came by a (Wm?) Powell Best Quality gun for the same, or less, good on ya! I love my Parkers, but always have my eyes open for a nice English SxS. Cheers!
scott kittredge
12-20-2011, 05:14 PM
checked bore dia. on my new to me lifter 10 ga. both bores .802. choked left .034, right .030. than i had to shoot it the stock has a slight crack but "one shot wouldn't hurt" so i loaded a 7/8th oz load of 8's with 15 grs 700-x and shot it at a 30 in target and got 94% pattern with it :shock: got to love the 10 . now off to repair shop and i will have it for spring turkey season i hope.:corn: scott
its is back for stock man and looking GREAT!!, now off to the goose and duck hunt, scott
Frank Cronin
12-20-2011, 05:18 PM
Great news Scott.... look forward to seeing it at the Major Waldrons Jan 1st.
Dave Suponski
12-20-2011, 05:20 PM
Pictures Scott!
Dave Suponski
12-20-2011, 06:28 PM
Scotts gun before repair.
Dave Suponski
12-20-2011, 06:31 PM
After repair...
Bill Murphy
12-21-2011, 09:34 AM
Wow, what a great lifter. Straight grip and case color.
Gary Carmichael Sr
12-21-2011, 08:22 PM
They look like 3/4" gal pipe they are so thick!
Pete Lester
12-22-2011, 03:05 PM
Scott's take today with his new lifter.
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj57/nhshotgunner/photo.jpg
charlie cleveland
12-22-2011, 03:39 PM
nice shooting.... charlie
scott kittredge
12-22-2011, 06:15 PM
nice shooting.... charlie
i can't say i shot them all , but with some good calling from me and a square pellet from bob f , he got luckly and hit the hen in the head :rotf:
calvin humburg
12-23-2011, 05:55 AM
Great wood on the ol girl. Blowing on calls is the most fun.
Pete Lester
12-28-2011, 08:32 PM
Scott bagged another greenhead after a few wing shooting tips from Bob Fabian earlier this week.
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj57/nhshotgunner/hammermallard.jpg
scott kittredge
12-29-2011, 05:14 AM
Scott bagged another greenhead after a few wing shooting tips from Bob Fabian earlier this week.
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj57/nhshotgunner/hammermallard.jpg
boy, that cuts deep :cuss:
Dean Romig
12-29-2011, 05:21 AM
Scott, does that gun have the small radius where the standing breech meets the water tables or is it a perfect 90 degree?
calvin humburg
12-29-2011, 06:02 AM
A great gun with a lot of early evolution mecanics I'd like to have on one. What forarm latch were they useing when they made the change to radius and reinforcing ribs? Don't know if I see the rib on his.
scott kittredge
12-29-2011, 08:29 AM
Scott, does that gun have the small radius where the standing breech meets the water tables or is it a perfect 90 degree?
it has the 90 on it.
Eric Baker
12-29-2011, 12:40 PM
Great photo Scott. Old Parker with dead bird, should be on a Christmas card or something.
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