Julia Auction Catalog

[Greg Baehman]

Here's a direct link to the James D. Julia auction catalog for their upcoming Oct. 4 & 5 auction sale, there's a few small bore Parkers listed @ lot #1195-98 and ~ 40 more Parkers starting at lot #1265.
http://jamesdjulia.com/auctions/div_catalog_308.asp?pageREQ=1

[Bruce Day]

A lot of very interesting and low production small gauge guns. Could be a real opportunity for somebody who may find what they were looking for.

[Eric Eis]

Yes there are some nice Parkers, but be carefull if you are not there in person, as there is some interesting wording in some of the descriptions:whistle:

One gun that I don't understand is lot 1276 "Truly Exceptional High Condition Parker GHE 410 Skeet Gun" Well look at the case colors on the two side shots, I've never seen that color case colors on any original Skeet gun...Redone yes but not original..:rolleyes: I could be wrong...

[Austin W Hogan]

Take a look at page 128

Best, Austin

[Richard Flanders]

Austin! Welcome back. Been wondering when you'd resurface. Hope you are feeling better and we hear from you regularly.

[Bill Murphy]

Austin, those of us who don't own a catalog don't deal in page numbers. What item number are you referring us to?

[Dean Romig]

Eric, lot# 1276 is a very late Remington Parker, 241995, being very near the end of production. Could Remington have been using the cyanide case hardening technique then? Or maybe Delgrego finished the gun after the war...?

[Dean Romig]

Take a look at page 128

Best, Austin

It is lot#1195 and is a superb BHE 20... almost 'over the top' in its engraving.

[Austin W Hogan]

It is lot 1195, and occupies page 128 Bill. It is from the Ned Schwing collection. Photos occassionally fib a little, but that gun looks like it alone is worth a trip to Maine to see.

Best, Austin

[Bill Murphy]

Dean, I'm not sure I understand your question. I'm not really up on such things, but I thought that Remington always used the cyanide method. Is that true?

[Bill Murphy]

Austin, I can see it just fine from MD. The bottom view is what I want my next gun to look like.

[Rich Anderson]

No catalog here yet. I always enjoy drooling over the Parkers and Winchesters. Wouldn't it be great to actually have disposable dollars?

[Eric Eis]

Eric, lot# 1276 is a very late Remington Parker, 241995, being very near the end of production. Could Remington have been using the cyanide case hardening technique then? Or maybe Delgrego finished the gun after the war...?

Yes they did but they never produced colors like that:shock: Could be Delgrego but then that would not be an original Parker gun. I have guns in the 240,000 range to 242200 and the colors are not even close.

[Dean Romig]

My 'question' was in response to Eric's doubting the originality of the colors on that gun as being original.

I too, was under the impression that Remington used the cyanide process of case color hardening, at least in the late thirties - early forties. I am completely open (no arguement from me) to the suggestion that the colors are original.

(no offense intended Eric :bowdown:)

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Seems we need to be careful, so as to not "buy a pig in a poke"

[Eric Eis]

My 'question' was in response to Eric's doubting the originality of the colors on that gun as being original.

I too, was under the impression that Remington used the cyanide process of case color hardening, at least in the late thirties - early forties. I am completely open (no arguement from me) to the suggestion that the colors are original.

(no offense intended Eric :bowdown:)

No offense taken but as I said I have three or four guns in that serial number range and "none" look like the colors in the Julia catalog maybe there was a mixup and the wrong pictures of the receiver of another gun got posted there by mistake as they laided out the catalog with all the thousands of pics they deal with that could happen. I don't know the only thing I do know is those two shots of a Parker receiver are not original colors. Let's hope the pics did get mixed up.......

[Richard Flanders]

I'll take the grade 5 hammer gun! There's a pretty nice VHE16 in there also.... too bad it's a 16ga... Good auction to get "upgraded" guns it seems. I also see Butch Cassidy's Colt SAA; that should be a hot item...

[Austin W Hogan]

This is based on 50 years of living in the Mohawk Valley where I shot smallbore and benchrest at Pine Tree with many Remington custom shop people, and did business with Lefever Arms until Mr Bob Lefever's retirement. This has been followed by 20 + years of visits to DelGrego's.
Frank Lefever was Superintendent of Ilion Remington until he opened his shop a short distance away in Frankfort. He was frequently recalled as a consultant when production problems occurred at Remington. His shop was complete and he had jigs to maintain alignment of frames that they case hardened. I have an Ithaca Lefever A restored by Lefever in the 1970's which matches Parker case color, blue, and stock finish. The Lefevers and the DelGregos were good friends and they exchanged work.
The original DelGrego shop was in the basement of the DelGrego home. It had no facilities for forging, blueing or case hardening. Most of this work was done by Lefever until Bob Lefever's move in the early 1980's. Runge then carried frames polished by DelGrego to Remington (where he was still active in the custom shop) to be case hardened. Mike Walker did similar favors for the Harts.
I might speculate that some Ilion Parkers were blued and case hardened by Lefever. Others may have been case hardened at the Arms, as similar cyanide colors are found on Remington rifle bolts of that era.

Best, Austin