At the Gun Show This Weekend

[Marty Bryant]

I saw a nice Parker at the gun show this weekend but didn't have enough money for it and he wasn't interested in trading for anything I had. It was a 1907 12ga VH, 1 1/2 frame, 13.3 barrel weight, 30" barrels. One barrel was full. The other was between IC and Mod (.014). No pitting in the barrels. Barrels were about 90 to 95%. About 40 to 50% case coloring remaining. The wood was excellent. What impressed me was the figure in the stock. Much better than my other two VH's. He was firm at $1950 which seemed like a fair price. Sorry about the bad cell phone picture. I got his name and cell number so I can call him if I sell a couple of guns.
http://parkerguns.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9664&stc=1&d=1310582320

[Eric Eis]

Looks like a replacement buttstock.

[ed good]

still a nice piece of wood.

[Marty Bryant]

Thanks for the info. I didn't think about it being replaced. Does this ruin the value?

[George Lander]

No Marty: Not for a nice VH shooter. Like Ed said "It's a very nice piece of wood" $1,950 sounds like a fair price IMHO

Best Regards, George

[Mike Shepherd]

Marty in my opinion 12 gauge VH shooters in good mechanical condition go for $800 to $1200. I would make sure the hook has not been "dimpled" on the side to tighten the gun up or been peened down for the same purpose.

Check the triggers and make sure they aren't 1/2 pound or 14 pounds. And when there is no pitting in the barrels I always think they have been honed which of it's self is not bad. But sometimes they are honed so much that they are below my minimum wall thicknesses and then instead of a shooter I wind up with a wall hanger.

Best,

Mike

[Richard Flanders]

That is gorgeous wood. Price doesn't sound bad to me in that condition.

[Bill Murphy]

Measure the bores, chokes, and wall thickness, and then write the check. It is a nice looking gun. Why don't you show us pictures of the 40% case colors?

[Marty Bryant]

I took several pictures with my cell phone but they were to blurred to make out. The only decent one was of the stock. We measured the bore and choke with a barrel micrometer. I don't have any way to measure barrel thickness plus he is 200 miles away. The barrel weight is 3.13 not 13.3. The gun felt light. My other two VH's have no. 2 frames and barrels of 4.3 and 4.4. The serial no. is 141074. Can someone tell me if the 30" barrel length is correct?

[George Blair]

Not in the book. Sorry

[Marty Bryant]

Thanks for checking for me.

[George Lander]

Marty: If you like the gun & it fits you write the check. The gun is priced fairly IMHO. And that is a "killer" piece of wood. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was from Rinehart Fajen's shop.

Best Regards, George

[Bill Murphy]

If you measured the bores, why won't you tell us what the measurements were, so we could give you more information. Bore measurements are a big deal.

[Marty Bryant]

The owner of the gun had no idea how it was choked. An individual that was a couple of tables down from the owner had a bore micrometer and he measured the bores. All we were looking for was the constriction. I didn't get the number on the first barrel but he said it was definitely full. The other constriction was .014. I remember it because of our discussion that it was between Mod and IC.

[George Lander]

Marty: I believe that Bill was referring primarily to wall thickness. That is a big deal. The condition of the barrels determines the value of the gun.

Best Regards, George

[Bill Murphy]

The bores should be about .729 to .733. If they are bigger than that, they have been modified from original.

[Mike Shepherd]

Which is no big deal on a VH shooter if they still have adequate wall thicknesses.

Best,

Mike

[Bill Murphy]

Yup.