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Don Strelioff
03-06-2026, 02:30 PM
Gun show find
28" bbl's 2.5 in cham
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the only negative is i'm thinking the butt was cut if not cut a different butt plate for sure The butt plate original to the gun thanks to the people for explaining what the correct one should look like
purchased from the owners family

John B White
03-06-2026, 02:52 PM
That’s lovely and next on my list. Well done!

Can you show a pic of the butt plate in question?

Dean Romig
03-06-2026, 05:37 PM
Totally beautiful.

To find a utilitarian gun that old in that condition is just so rare!





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David Livesay
03-06-2026, 05:47 PM
I like that that gun a lot. I would love to find a 16 or 20 gauge Trojan or VH. Hope you got it for a good price.

Jay Oliver
03-06-2026, 05:47 PM
That is nice! What is the LOP? I think standard was 14" on those. I might leave it as is, but a replacement(original) butt plate is possible.

The only Trojan I have is in 20ga. and it is wonderful!

Congratulations!

Quick Edit: And the early the rib extension!

Don Strelioff
03-06-2026, 06:10 PM
I like that that gun a lot. I would love to find a 16 or 20 gauge Trojan or VH. Hope you got it for a good price.

i have a 16 ga vh on a 0 frame i hunt sharp tailed grouse and pheasants with it
the condition cosmetically is well used but the mechanics are 100%

Don Strelioff
03-06-2026, 06:44 PM
That is nice! What is the LOP? I think standard was 14" on those. I might leave it as is, but a replacement(original) butt plate is possible.

The only Trojan I have is in 20ga. and it is wonderful!

Congratulations!

Quick Edit: And the early the rib extension!

The LOP to the back of the butt plate from the front trigger is 14"
would that be safe to say it's original ?
the butt plate does not have a dogs head on it ribs just runs across it

Brian Dudley
03-06-2026, 06:54 PM
Trojans had a simple serrated buttplate. The lop sounds right. The butt should have a slight curve to it.

Don Strelioff
03-06-2026, 07:01 PM
Trojans had a simple serrated buttplate. The lop sounds right. The butt should have a slight curve to it.

ok then everything is correct with the butt plate it is curved and serrated and 14"
thanks for the help
this weekend it will be out to some farm yards for barn yard pigeons

John B White
03-06-2026, 07:06 PM
I had just popped the buttplate off of my 1919 12 gauge restored Trojan, as well as checking under the trigger guard tang in an effort to see if there was any thing that might shed some light on who performed the resto. Nothing to lead me to a conclusion.

Same butt plate that’s on my 1930, though it now wears a replacement as the original had cracked and split in two.

When I sourced the replacement, I considered trying to find a dogs head variety and MacGyvering it to fit.

todd allen
03-06-2026, 07:44 PM
I have a nice, all original 28" Trojan 20 ga. that is quail Kryptonite!
IMO, the Trojan is the gloriously unsophisticated sleeper of the shotgun world.
Elegance in simplicity, with the lethality of it's bore, and payload.
Easy to carry, and handles like a cue-stick. Doesn't need engraving to bag birds.

Don Strelioff
03-06-2026, 07:49 PM
I have a nice, all original 28" Trojan 20 ga. that is quail Kryptonite!
IMO, the Trojan is the gloriously unsophisticated sleeper of the shotgun world.
Elegance in simplicity, with the lethality of it's bore, and payload.
Easy to carry, and handles like a cue-stick. Doesn't need engraving to bag birds.

So very true and well said i hunt with all grades of firearms that i own as Parker's a G grade and a P grade are the highest levels that i have
I do have a couple of custom rifles with gorgeous wood on them and they go out to the field

Dean Romig
03-06-2026, 08:08 PM
Much better that you didn’t McGuyver it.





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edgarspencer
03-06-2026, 09:54 PM
To find a utilitarian gun that old in that condition is just so rare!.

I found a plain Jane 30" 11/2 frame VH like that. Was told the owner just thought they should have a gun in the house. Sat in a closet it's whole life.

Dean Romig
03-06-2026, 10:33 PM
I found a plain Jane 30" 11/2 frame VH like that. Was told the owner just thought they should have a gun in the house. Sat in a closet it's whole life.

And if you remember Edgar, I had that Grade-1 16 gauge T/A hammer gun that was deemed by expert collectors to be unfired.





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Bill Murphy
03-07-2026, 06:40 AM
John, is the guy in the picture your dad? Glad you decided on the original style Trojan buttplate on your restoration.

John B White
03-07-2026, 10:20 AM
John, is the guy in the picture your dad? Glad you decided on the original style Trojan buttplate on your restoration.

Lol, no. That’s a photo of Ernest Hemingway. Just framed it the other day and need to hang it on the wall.

Don Strelioff
03-12-2026, 04:27 PM
with further investigation i found my measuring tools
Bore dia both bbl's .617
Left bbl .590 = 27" @ the muzzle
right bbl 597 = 19" @ the muzzle
i like those fairly tight that's great for my style of hunting
20 ga parker trojan

allen newell
03-15-2026, 04:15 PM
The frame screws have been turned but could be cleaned up. Very nice find

Craig Larter
03-15-2026, 04:23 PM
Just the way I like to find them, great Trojan, I would have bought it in second! Very Nice enjoy.

Don Strelioff
03-15-2026, 11:32 PM
Just the way I like to find them, great Trojan, I would have bought it in second! Very Nice enjoy.

thanks i plan on using it extensively it sure handles nice

Dean Romig
03-16-2026, 09:19 AM
I have Ed Muderlak’s 4”x6” glossies of his pristine Trojan (with original box) that was shown in his book “Parker Guns, the Old Reliable”. A few years after publication I believe it was JD Julia’s that auctioned it at some $12k.
I should post those pictures here when I get home.





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