chamber lengths

[William Woods]

Having followed the thread on the "P" designation guns, and not wanting to lengthen the thread further, I had some additional questions regarding the reproductions.

I have seen twenty gauge reproductions with both 2 3/4" chambers and those that have 3" chambers. What, if any other, requirements were there for the 3" chambered guns? Did the barrel lengths/choking determine the chamber length? Were there shorter barrel lengths, more open chokes, that had the 3" chamber?

Previously, I had asked the question about what determined the "P" designation on a reproduction? How many guns produced with certain specifications be designated a "P" gun? Say a twenty-eight gauge with double triggers, beavertail forend, and twenty six inch barrels, how many produced wih those specs be designated as prototypes?

Thanks to all.

[David C Porter]

If you scroll through the Parker Reproduction pages you'll find these questions have been asked & answer many times before.

[Dean Romig]

I have only seen the 3” 20 gauge chambers on 28” barrels. I had a two barrel set 20 ga. Repro, one set 26” and one 28”. The 28” barrels had 3” chambers and the 26” set did not.

I don’t think we know how many Repros had the “P” designation. I do know that some P serial numbers sere into the 300 range.

I have a few records of such guns at home… and I’m not at home at the moment.



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[Donald F. Mills]

I have P-420, a 20 gauge. In correspondence with Richard Skeuse he stated that he isn’t sure how many were made. I also seem to remember the P guns only exist in 20 ga.

[David C Porter]

Parker Reproduction brochure specifications

[Bill Murphy]

Yup, it seems that SSS guns were 28" IC and MOD in the folder, 3" chambers. I seem to remember that not all guns in that category were marked SSS. I think I own one of those. What do others say?

[William Woods]

Yup, it seems that SSS guns were 28" IC and MOD in the folder, 3" chambers. I seem to remember that not all guns in that category were marked SSS. I think I own one of those. What do others say?

I would not know Mr. Bill. I still consider myself a newcomer to these guns and this group. There is a lot to learn, and I never see enough of these guns to educate myself.

Thanks to you and others for sharing your knowledge.

[Bill Murphy]

OK, even though it is not in line with this thread, I mentioned a gun in my last post. Sure enough, my 12 gauge 28" IC and MOD Repro is not marked Steel Shot Special and has a standard 12 gauge serial number with no SSS added. Apparently my gun and those like it are a non-catalogued special gun (not special ordered) made for people who wanted an open bored gun with longer than 26" barrels. I don't know whether they were made in one batch or with random serial numbers. I do know that they are very scarce and fill a void in catalog offerings.

[Dean Romig]

Please share your serial number with us Bill.





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[Bill Murphy]

12-1201 I (we) would like to see some serial numbers for other 12 gauge 28" IC and MOD choked repros.

[Greg Baehman]

OK, even though it is not in line with this thread, I mentioned a gun in my last post. Sure enough, my 12 gauge 28" IC and MOD Repro is not marked Steel Shot Special and has a standard 12 gauge serial number with no SSS added. Apparently my gun and those like it are a non-catalogued special gun (not special ordered) made for people who wanted an open bored gun with longer than 26" barrels. I don't know whether they were made in one batch or with random serial numbers. I do know that they are very scarce and fill a void in catalog offerings.
Bill, your 12ga. DHE Repro w/28” bbls., choked IC/M was a standard offering. Several years ago shooting in our Central Wisconsin Winter Skeet League I was part of a 5-man squad, four on our squad were shooting all non-SSS marked 12ga. Repros w/28” bbls., factory choked IC/M and I was shooting a Sporting Clays Classic. They maybe scarce, but they’re plentiful around here — and I’ve seen several others listed through the years.

[Bill Murphy]

Look at the little "+" sign next to the description in the factory folder. "+" indicates Steel Shot Special. The 12 gauge 28" IC and MOD non SSS is not a catalog item.

[Greg Baehman]

Look at the little "+" sign next to the description in the factory folder. "+" indicates Steel Shot Special. The 12 gauge 28" IC and MOD non SSS is not a catalog item.
Look at the 2nd row down from the top, two rows above the specs for the Steel Shot Special. What does it say were the standard chokings available for these standard cataloged 12ga. Repros with 28” barrels?

[Bill Murphy]

Sorry, I missed that. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I wonder why such a good option is so scarce? I wonder why it is not listed as an option in 20 or 28?

[David C Porter]

Think about when the repo's were made. Barrel lenght is like an old suit. Don't throw it away because what's not in style today, may be in style tomorrow. Early barrel lenghts were long, mid century short barrels, & now everyone wants long barrels. I can remenber in the 60's plus everyone wanted 26" barrels & paid a premium for those guns, with 28" & 30" being less popular, except 30" with the trap shooters.

[William Woods]

Think about when the repo's were made. Barrel lenght is like an old suit. Don't throw it away because what's not in style today, may be in style tomorrow. Early barrel lenghts were long, mid century short barrels, & now everyone wants long barrels. I can remenber in the 60's plus everyone wanted 26" barrels & paid a premium for those guns, with 28" & 30" being less popular, except 30" with the trap shooters.

That was my time Mr. Porter. No one in our area wanted long barreled guns due to the area we hunted. Long barrels would hang up on tree limbs and bushes when trying to swing on a flushing quail. I imagine grouse hunters felt the same.

I bought a new Remington 1100 that came with a 28" barrel and immediately took it to a gun dealer and traded that barrel for a 26" barrel and paid extra to do so.

I can remember reading an article in a gun/hunting magazine where the author stated that barrel length need be no longer than 26", chokes were the only thing that mattered, even for waterfowl.

[allen newell]

26 inch barrels are all that I need for bird hunting and skeet. I only shoot 28 inch barrels for trap. But to my mind, 26 inches rules.