2 Frame 10 gauges

[Patrick Lien]

I recently found a 2 frame EH 10 gauge with 30" Damascus barrels. The gun was made in 1904 and has a pistol grip stock and appears to have the hickory reinforcing rods. The gun is complete except for the missing buttplate. It only weights 7.44 pounds!!

1. How common are 2 frame 10's?

2. If you have one how much does yours weigh and what is the barrel length?

3. What timeframe did Parker use the Hickory rods?

Thanks :)

Patrick

[scott kittredge]

i have a 2 frame EH with 30 in. barrels made in 1889 that is 8 3/4 lbs, choked .025 in each side. it is my avatar pic next to the fat mallard. i love mine :) scott

[Bill Murphy]

#2 frame EH grade Damascus tens are pretty common. I have one with 28" barrels that weighs about what yours does. My #2 frame 27" Damascus DH ten weighs about 7 1/4 pounds. They were obviously ordered as bird guns. I have never seen a #2 frame fluid steel ten gauge Parker. DH ten #71767 was made on a #1 frame with 26" barrels, but I don't know the ordered or completed weight. Maybe Mark would look it up for us and post the order book and stock book weights of that unusual gun. This gun, #71767, may actually weigh under seven pounds.

[Bill Murphy]

Concerning the hickory rod, consider that any Parker could be a restock with the rod. A PGCA letter may shed light on whether the gun has been restocked.

[Bruce Day]

CH 10/26" . Photos on request.

[Patrick Lien]

I once inspected a 2 frame 10 gauge Parker DH at an auction house before the auction that was described as a 12 gauge. One of the brothers, a part owner of the auction company, did not believe me when I told him the Parker DH was a ten bore. I asked him to wait a minute and went to the pick up truck and got several 10 gauge empty hulls and returned. He was shocked and a little upset when the truth was in his hands, they had paid a professional to appraise and describe the guns for the auction catalog. More than one of the several SXSs in the auction were described incorrectly. Good Shooting To You, Jent


Jent,
I had a similiar experience with this gun. It was presented as a 12 gauge by the seller and he did not want to hear my opinion that it was a 10.

thanks
Patrick

[Patrick Lien]

Concerning the hickory rod, consider that any Parker could be a restock with the rod. A PGCA letter may shed light on whether the gun has been restocked.


It is not a restock. It is just an old brown gun that has seen alot of use. I should have weighed it before I cleaned it up, It may have been closer to 8lbs with all the crud that it was holding. Thanks for the info Bill.

Patrick

[Harry Collins]

#2 frame 1881 Lifter 10 gauge 30" barrels with .030 in both .802 bores! I don't know how much it weighs.

Harry

[Bill Murphy]

Harry, I love those .802 bores. No forcing cones to worry about. Bruce, I would love to see the letter on the CH 26" gun. Can you access it for pictures?

[Bruce Day]

No letter.

J B Stevens Jr
Dover, NH

1-12/30 Bernard PG 9 1/2 2 3/4x1 3/4-14
65557
???? 10/26 bbls 7 3/4 cyl

Target wood powder & make ????????



Stevens was semi well known.

I've never been able to figure out the words where I put the ?????'s.

[Richard Flanders]

I'd love to see pics of the 26" CH10. I'd love to have a light 10ga also. I'm afraid everything else might go unused if I had one. What a perfect pheasant gun.

[Patrick Lien]

I've never been able to figure out the words where I put the ?????'s.


How many forend's does the gun have? If only one then perhaps it says;

"Forget wood problem & make his forend do" ?

Just my guess.

Patrick

[Bruce Day]

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[Bill Murphy]

Bruce, the first XXX is "Fit extra set". The copy is too light for me to figure out any more. Can you make the copy contrast more?

[Dean Romig]

Bruce, can you photograph that page from a better angle or in better light?

[Richard Flanders]

I still can't make it out; is the last "fwd" ??

What a gorgeous gun! My dream gun!!

[Bruce Day]

I've been agonizing over the loss of Oprah.

[Pete Lester]

And to think that gun was right here in my home town at one time. Bruce what do you know about J.B. Stevens Jr., please tell.

[Bill Murphy]

"Make trigger forward"??

[Bruce Day]

I looked Stevens up on the internet and found that Sr and Jr were NH politicians and local leaders.

The gun had fallen upon hard times and changed hands a lot at the gunshow cordwood tables, kind of like the posts we see here: " I got me this here old gun, it says Parker, what is it and how much kin ah git fur it". It was mistreated and decrepit. First Austin Hogan then me poured effort and money into the gun....its been a project but it shoots well and looks pretty good now, I think. Heavy gun with the thick walled 12ga barrels and I've shot some heavy loads through it that would make an 870 owner proud. The 10's are light uplands and I've used them with RST loads when I want to throw a lot of shot in a wide pattern, but I usually use a tight choked 16ga. Its still a 7 3/4lb gun with the 10's so its not light.

You got me Bill. The triggers are in their usual orientation.

[Pete Lester]

Nice gun Bruce. Pouring money into one because you like it, good to know, I don't feel so alone. I remember a thread a while back. I think this guy was the City Clerk in Dover and is buried in nearby Pine Hill cemetery. Stevens is a pretty common name but I wonder if a fella I know who likes to hunt, Wally Stevens is related.

If you reload you can thow as little as 1 ounce through a short ten. If you want to up the payload no 16ga is going to come close if it's choked right. Light tens are just that, light for a ten.

[Richard Flanders]

It looks very nice indeed Bruce. The wood is spectacular. Hats off to you and Austin for resurrecting it.

[Harry Collins]

I took the office scales home and weighed the #2 frame 1881 10 gauge at 8 3/4 pounds.

Harry

[Bill Murphy]

I just brought home a PW 375 ten gauge loader, have tons of components as well as more than a few Parker tens, light and heavy. My favorites may turn out to be the 28" lifter guns, very lightly choked and obviously made for birds and close ducks. What fun.

[charlie cleveland]

I have never thougt about a lite ten but you fellas got me thinking about them...maybe I could hit some doves if I had one...ha....that is a nice gun bruce has....charlie

[Milton C Starr]

I have never thougt about a lite ten but you fellas got me thinking about them...maybe I could hit some doves if I had one...ha....that is a nice gun bruce has....charlie

Theres 4 , #2 frame 10 gauges on GB if you want to pick one up Charlie haha .
3 hammerless ones and a lifter . Seems they weigh around 8.5lbs

[Dean Romig]

I have a set of 2-feame 30” ten-gauge Damascus barrels with reverse chokes that I fitted to my 1898 2-frame DH.




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