DHE 20ga. Straight grip on G/B

[Jim DiSpagno]

Check out this one tucked away on G/B overpriced?? Take a look item # 230841371. Real nice original condition but only for those with deep pockets..LOL Jim D.

[Jay Gardner]

Small frame, 20 ga, straight stock, ssbp, 26" barrels...perhaps the perfect gun for grouse, woodcock and quail. Probably a reasonable retail price for a highly coveted configuration in what appears to be excellent conditiion. I suspect the gun would be listed in the mid-teens if it were being sold by one of the more prominent dealers.

[Dave Suponski]

Jay, You got that right! Intertesting to see a late Remington gun with Meriden barrels.

[Jim DiSpagno]

Spoke to the owner, he said he paid 10K for it a while ago, maybe 4-5yrs from a Parker collector who was dissolving his stuff due to advanced years and he put the start price at what he paid. I told him he wold be lucky to get that today. Sure is purty.

[Dean Romig]

I believe $10K is a very fair starting price for what it is... a very desirable late Parker.

I agree with Jay in every respect. A 28 ga. in that configuration and condition would be starting at $28K

[George Lander]

My 1925 DHE 20 bore, 30 inch bbls that I acquired in England I have priced at $17,500 & I ain't budging (In other words I don't care whether it sells or not, 'cause I would just as soon keep it).

Best Regards, George

I should have added that mine has a straight grip, factory chequered butt & a OO frame.

[Jay Gardner]

I have a 1923 vintage 20 ga DHE with 30" barrels that I'd sell for $9,750. Maybe I should re-consider and list it for more.

[Dean Romig]

Jay, You got that right! Intertesting to see a late Remington gun with Meriden barrels.

I've seen both "Parker Bros." grip caps and "Meriden, Ct." barrels on late Remington guns often enough to believe it isn't uncommon. I guess it's a matter of what was on hand at the time of the order.

[George Lander]

I have a 1923 vintage 20 ga DHE with 30" barrels that I'd sell for $9,750. Maybe I should re-consider and list it for more.

Jay, perhaps you should. They aren't that plentiful.

Best Regards, George

[todd allen]

It's interesting that it has two holes drilled, and plugged in the butt. I have a DHE 20 that has this as well. I'm guessing that the factory drilled the holes to remove weight from the butt end.
Here's the link to make it easier to get there:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=230841371

[Bill Murphy]

The holes in the butt are proper. George, the price for a gun someone wants to sell is always going to be different from the price of a similar gun that someone doesn't want to sell. As a licensed gun dealer, you know that. Of course, a 20 gauge Parker on a 00 frame is a rare item and you should stick to your price. Any largely original DHE 20 is a coveted gun and should not be priced low enough for the seller to suffer "seller's remorse" the day after the sale. I'm not selling mine because I don't know where to find another.

[George Lander]

Bill: Thanks for your input. Another unique thing about my gun is its London proofs and the name "S.D. McGraw" on the initial plate. The PGCA letter hade very little information and none about the original consignee.

Best Regards, George

[Bill Murphy]

OK, George, S.D. McGraw shot a 74X100 in the Stock Exchange Trapshooting Day at the Country Club of Westchester on February 28, 1914. He is not an easy guy to research since a guy named John McGraw was a big name baseball guy in the same era and most sporting publications of the day were baseball as well as trapshooting publications. If we knew S.D.'s real first name, we could find out more about him. Your turn.

[Mark Vollinger]

I've seen both "Parker Bros." grip caps and "Meriden, Ct." barrels on late Remington guns often enough to believe it isn't uncommon. I guess it's a matter of what was on hand at the time of the order.

Dean:
I noticed the serialization book calls out a capped pistol grip for the serial number of this gun.

[todd allen]

This is the reason I was asking about the holes/plugs in the butt of the other gun. I have a DHE 20 with the same holes. The plugs on mine are recessed for whatever reason. It's a sweet little gun, and I ain't changing anything.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a19/luckydogx2/P1080682.jpg
This is a two barrel gun, with original Parker case, including correspondence with the maker confirming the order, and a picture of the original owner.
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[Rich Anderson]

This seller has aqnother gun listed that interests me except I have asked twice for some additional pictures with no reply. Not the way to sell a gun or anything else for that matter.

George I have a CHE 20 with English proof marks. My gun was sent back to Parker for stock work from Shanghi China:eek:. The work was completed and the gun returned to its owner in China.

[Jim DiSpagno]

I spoke with him at length and seems to be a very nice guy. He admits to being computer illiterate and relies on his son for that. He listed a web sight and there is aphone #. Leave a message and he will definitely call you back. Ron said he has another business and will return all calls. Thanks Jim

[Dean Romig]

This is the reason I was asking about the holes/plugs in the butt of the other gun. I have a DHE 20 with the same holes. The plugs on mine are recessed for whatever reason. It's a sweet little gun, and I ain't changing anything.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a19/luckydogx2/P1080682.jpg


Todd, the plugs are recessed because someone (probably a mischievous kid) pounded on them and sunk them. If it were mine I would send it to an expert Parker stock man and have the plugs properly repositioned. David Trevallion would be my choice.

[todd allen]

No, there are no pounding marks evident. Plus, there are no signs of abuse anywhere else on the gun. I’m guessing that the plugs may not have been glued properly, and just pushed in with use. Who knows? I think the only real fix would be to drill them out, install a new set, and re-checker the butt. But then I would have a modified gun.
Someone else will ponder this when I’m long gone.

[David Hamming]

This is a two barrel gun, with original Parker case, including correspondence with the maker confirming the order, and a picture of the original owner.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a19/luckydogx2/P1080681.jpg

Beautiful gun, there is something about a straight stocked Parker that pleases my eye.

[Ed Blake]

What are the barrel lengths? Nice gun, thanks for posting pictures.

[Bill Murphy]

It was on display at Allentown a couple of weeks ago. Not an ugly gun.

[Mark Vollinger]

FYI:
There is a paper record the frame for Serial No. 185580 (CHE) was sent to Turnbull's in 1983 for work. No details of the work order are available.



Lot#: 197

Description: Parker Brothers Shotgun.**
Description Serial #: 18558. Cal/GA: 20 gauge. Manufacture date: 1920. Barrel length: 30". With double triggers and ejectors. Lever still angled to the right. Grade CHE. Acme steel barrel. Excellent bores with no rust. Right barrel improved cylinder, left barrel modified cylinder. Original Parker grip pad.

Originality: 100%. Overall condition: Near Mint.

AUCTION INFORMATION:
Name May 28th 2011 Firearms (07)
Date(s) 28 May 2011
Location 2000 North Reading Road
Denver, PA
Buyer Premium 20% Buyer's Premium
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In a few days we will see where the market price is for a 20 gauge Parker. I have not seen this Parker myself in person. If it is as Morphy has described it is one great gun. Jent

[todd allen]

What are the barrel lengths? Nice gun, thanks for posting pictures.

Thanks Ed. They're 28", choked IC/Mod - Mod/Full

[craig reynolds]

Todd
Your gun with the supporting paperwork would make a great article for the Parker Pages. Craig

[todd allen]

Craig, if there is any interest by the PGCA, let me know.

[todd allen]

BTW, this DHE was one of the last few to leave the Remington factory. The serial nuber is 242122

[Dave Suponski]

Todd, I am sure there is interest in a story for the Parker Pages. You can submit it to Dean when it's done. I am looking forward to reading it!

[craig reynolds]

Todd
I sent you a PM. I hope.
Craig

[Angel Cruz]

She's back at a reduced price..http://www.gunsinternational.com/PARKER-DHE-20-Gauge-SHOTGUN-Rare-Collectible.cfm?gun_id=100185556

[George Lander]

Boy, that is a very nice looking honest DHE at a great price IMHO

George

[Angel Cruz]

Ditto!!

[Jay Gardner]

I really want to like this gun and I am trying hard but...the engraving on the left side of the receiver. Isn't it supposed to be a pointer? I swear it looks like Lassie hobbling her way back to Timmy. May be it's just me but that may be the single ugliest engraving job I have ever seen.

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[Angel Cruz]

Jay, your'e right. Look at the funky front legs.

[Jay Gardner]

Seriously, WTF? How much was Remington getting for D-grades at the time? I have seen better engraving done with a pocket knife on the side of a Coke machine. How about we start a thread dedicated to bad Parker engraving.

[Dean Romig]

We may never learn why a journeyman or apprentice engraver was given the harder task of engraving the dogs and birds. Scrollwork is generally easier to execute than trying to impart 'life' into a dog or bird, but they had to start somewhere and at least it was on the lowest of the graded guns. The chief engraver took on the task of the higher grade's elaborate decorations.
The quail on the floorplate resemble the work of Runge but more probably the engraver copied Runge's quail better than he did the dogs.

[Larry Frey]

I swear it looks like Lassie hobbling her way back to Timmy.

Now Jay your really dating yourself with that comment.:)

Of course with this crowd I'll bet 95% of us know exactly who Lassie and Timmy are.

[Rich Anderson]

Look at it this way, the poor dog is tuckered out after a long day of pointing Grouse and Woodcock that his master missed. He has worked his ass off covering miles of thick cover in the unrelenting heat of a late September day. All he has to look forward to is a bowl of dry dog food and hopefully a rug to lie down on.