Auto safety

[Clark McCombe]

One of the Parker’s I acquired does not appear to have an automatic safety after the gun is opened.
It has to be repositioned manually.
Was this a Parker option or is it a malfunction?

[Donald F. Mills]

There is a rod that when removed disables the automatic safety. I have seen it a few times. Just had this taken care of recently on a 28 ga repro. It’s a pretty easy fix.

[John Davis]

A gun could also come from the factory with the non automatic safety, particularly if its intended use was for the trap line or pigeon ring. Those ordered with no safety were definitely headed that way.

[Clark McCombe]

I don’t believe the research letter specified non auto safety.
Is there a way to determine if it was a factory setting? And if it was I am guessing it could be modified ?
I’d feel more comfort with an auto safety, especially since there will be other family members shooting it.

[Brian Dudley]

It could have been special ordered that way, which would be stated in the letter.

Or the reset rod was removed after the fact. If there is a hole for the rod in the stock, then that is what happened.

Either way, putting it back to an auto safety can be done. Very easily if the hole is there.

[todd allen]

One of the Parker’s I acquired does not appear to have an automatic safety after the gun is opened.
It has to be repositioned manually.
Was this a Parker option or is it a malfunction?

That is a blessing. My safeties go on when I want them to.

[Pete Lester]

Skeet guns have no automatic safety.

[Steven Groh]

An auto safety on a game gun is annoying as hell, if you have spent any time shooting sporting with a target gun.
I had a 32" CHE target gun (1906 vintage, if memory serves), and it had a manual safety, and I would love to find it again!

[Clark McCombe]

I’m in agreement,
I tried my daughter’s new Beretta. The safety was tight and too smooth.
More often than not, I fumbled with it.

[Bill Murphy]

Clark, I will guess that your pump guns and autoloaders do not have automatic safeties. How about bolt action rifles?

[Clark McCombe]

Haven’t shot anything but sxs in quite a while, except a bolt action 22 to take care of a woodchuck in a trap. That one has a safety but operates backwards.
I do have an Ithaca 37 and honestly as I remember - the safety there was a problem

[Bill Murphy]

Sometimes I get the idea that you're messing with us, Clark.

[Phil Yearout]

Auto safeties are just like anything else; it’s all a matter of what you’re used to. All my sxs’s have one except one; I wish it did and I have the rod for it but not interested in pulling the stock to reinstall it. Besides, “couldn’t get the safety off” is one of my main excuses for missing :rotf:

[Mike Koneski]

I do not like auto-safeties. If I remove a stock on a double-gun I will remove the auto-safety rod and work it as a manual safety. I am used to manual safeties on my hunting guns and there's nothing more annoying than an auto-safety on a target gun!! :cuss:

I too shoot a Ithaca M37. The only time I use the safety is if I hunt with it, otherwise it's fun to shoot in competition as the safety remains off. I just have to remember to pump!!

[Harold Lee Pickens]

I never liked non automatic safeties, but I primarily hunt, and hunt alot.

[todd allen]

The "Auto Saftey" should be the 6" between your ears.

[Stan Hillis]

I despise an automatic safety. IMHO, the real safety is not made into the gun, it is between one's ears.

[Dave Noreen]

I grew up shooting doubles with automatic safeties and it has never been an issue. I've shot tens of thousands of rounds of skeet with my Fox-Sterlingworth Ejector Skeet & Upland Game Gun in the last 20 years, and the automatic safety has never been an issue.

[Clark McCombe]

It’s like playing the piano.
Practice scales thousands of times and the muscle memory develops in the fingers.

[Breck Gorman]

I have a little drawer full of auto safety rods if you want one. I take them out of my personal guns.

[Dean Romig]

I too shoot a Ithaca M37. The only time I use the safety is if I hunt with it, otherwise it's fun to shoot in competition as the safety remains off. I just have to remember to pump!!


Me too Mike - we should probably stick to SXS’s.
I bought a new Stevens 20 gauge in 1964 that was a knockoff of the Ithaca 37 but fumbled a bit with the double triggers and tang safety of the Parker Trojan I shot interchangeably with the Stevens. But these days I fumble with the Stevens… if I even shoot it these days.





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[Bob Decker]

Another reason to buy a Lefever. The auto safety can be turned on or off with the turn of a screw under the opening lever (except in "pigeon guns" with no safety).

[todd allen]

My Beretta AL 391 came without an auto safety. Should I be concerned?

[Daryl Corona]

Another reason to buy a Lefever. The auto safety can be turned on or off with the turn of a screw under the opening lever (except in "pigeon guns" with no safety).

You took the words out of my mouth Bob.

[Mike Koneski]

Another reason to buy a Lefever. The auto safety can be turned on or off with the turn of a screw under the opening lever (except in "pigeon guns" with no safety).

That's why all my Lefevers have the auto-safety locked off. For those that rely on auto-safeties to keep your gun "safe" while hunting, they are a mechanical device. All mechanical devices can fail. I prefer to have that tactile knowledge that if I'm in the field, I engaged the safety. I have a couple of Parkers that I didn't take apart to disassemble the safety rod. Whenever I shoot clays with them they do mess me up on the first few stations. I will be like Breck and those push rods will be tossed into a drawer eventually. :corn:

[Mike Koneski]

My Beretta AL 391 came without an auto safety. Should I be concerned?

:rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf: I'd send it back!!! :bowdown::bowdown:

[Stan Hillis]

Another reason to buy a Lefever. The auto safety can be turned on or off with the turn of a screw under the opening lever (except in "pigeon guns" with no safety).

I'd hope there were better reasons than that, for buying one. It's just a personal opinion but I have no desire to be able to turn a disabled auto safety back on.

[Phil Yearout]

I really don't understand what all the fuss is about one way or the other. My thumb is on the safety button anyway; pretty easy to tell if the gun is on safety or not. As I said earlier, it seems to me it's all in what you're used to and what works for ya...

[Russ Jackson]

Just my 2 cents but I agree with Phil , when I am hunting ,I don't think my thumb ever leaves the safety button except to fire and reload !

[John Davis]

In the field I prefer an automatic safety, one less thing to think about. On the line I prefer non-automatic or no safety, one less thing to think about.

[Mike Koneski]

In the field I prefer an automatic safety, one less thing to think about. On the line I prefer non-automatic or no safety, one less thing to think about.

John, you're thinking about it now!! :rotf::rotf:

[John Davis]

John, you're thinking about it now!! :rotf::rotf:

But it’s the last time I have to think about it. :)

[John Dallas]

For many years i ran my dogs at "Driven Bird Shoots" at a put and take club. The shooters were all given a safety lesson about unloading their gun when walking between stations. Us dog boys did not rotate. Many times I would look up and see a guy walking with his hand wrapped around the action so that it meant I was staring down the barrel of a 12 gauge. My first comment was "Please open the action". Many times the response was "Nah, it's OK, the safety is on". To which my response was liable to be "I didn't ask you about the safety! Open the frigging action". Occasionlly the guy whould go back to the club owner to complain about the big guy with the Lab. Result? That man was not invited back

[Daryl Corona]

For many years i ran my dogs at "Driven Bird Shoots" at a put and take club. The shooters were all given a safety lesson about unloading their gun when walking between stations. Us dog boys did not rotate. Many times I would look up and see a guy walking with his hand wrapped around the action so that it meant I was staring down the barrel of a 12 gauge. My first comment was "Please open the action". Many times the response was "Nah, it's OK, the safety is on". To which my response was liable to be "I didn't ask you about the safety! Open the frigging action". Occasionlly the guy whould go back to the club owner to complain about the big guy with the Lab. Result? That man was not invited back

We have the same policy at my club during any activity involving a firearm. One strike and you are out.

[Phil Yearout]

Auto safety or not, that’s just dumb.

[allen newell]

Safety rules

[Phil Yearout]

To be clear, I meant it was dumb that the guy thought having a loaded gun on safe made the gun safe.

[Bill Murphy]

I recall many years ago that ATA had a rule that anyone who argued a call involving safety was out at strike one. I wish I could remember where to find that rule.

[John Davis]

Sorry Bill, I missed understood your post with my original reply.

[Stan Hillis]

Everyone does understand that a shooter can push the safety off after it is automatically gone on safe, and forget it is off, right? "Automatic" does not overcome a careless act by the shooter/hunter. Again, the real safety is in the man, not the gun.

The unspoken problem with auto safeties is that they create a false sense of security which dulls the awareness of the shooter to always BE the safety.

[scott kittredge]

safeties wont stop the hammers from falling, it only keeps the triggers from moving

[Jerry Harlow]

Wish they had auto safeties on hammer guns. The biggest mistake I continued to make with them dove hunting is to cock both hammers to shoot at a dove, kill it with the first shot, go to pick it up, and later discover I still had a cocked gun with the unfired barrel. Would only find it out when I went to reload. It was hard to get used to.

[Harold Lee Pickens]

Agree with that Jerry