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John Davis
08-05-2024, 03:51 PM
I've been here at the Grand since last Wednesday and my scores have been all over the place. Some good, some bad. But yesterday Parker SBT, serial no. 187630, came through for me. The old girl took Veteran Runner-up in the Blaser Handicap event with a 97x100 (25/25/24/23), followed by another 25 straight in the shoot off. She also picked up a one yard punch, putting us now at the back fence on the 27 yard line. Not bad for 105 years old, with a face lift.

John Dunkle
08-05-2024, 04:07 PM
Outstanding and CONGRATS John!!! Keep those updates coming - and try to keep them on the "good news" side of things ;)

:cheers:

John D.

Mike Franzen
08-05-2024, 04:43 PM
The saga continues! Keep making Parker history.

Daryl Corona
08-05-2024, 05:06 PM
A future "Parkers in Pulp" inductee in the making.:bowdown::)

Bill Murphy
08-05-2024, 05:29 PM
Congratulations, John. I assume the first place finisher in the Blaser Handicap was shooting a Model 97 Winchester Trap.

John Davis
08-05-2024, 05:50 PM
Doubtful.

CraigThompson
08-05-2024, 05:56 PM
Congratulations Mr.Davis !!!!’

CraigThompson
08-05-2024, 05:59 PM
John was that the gun you showed us in Winchester VA ?

John Davis
08-05-2024, 06:10 PM
It is the SAA upgrade. 34 inch barrel, extra full choke.

Stan Hoover
08-05-2024, 06:16 PM
Very Nice John,

Great shooting, takes more focus than I believe I could muster!!

One of these years I will make it out there to take it all in.

Garry L Gordon
08-05-2024, 06:26 PM
I marvel at your ability to handle your Parkers. Continued good shooting!

Reggie Bishop
08-05-2024, 06:53 PM
John that is outstanding! Way to represent!

bob lyons
08-05-2024, 07:32 PM
John
Hard for me to imagine shooting that well as I’m still trying for a 25.
But I’m thinking that all those trap shooters will be buying up all the Parker trap guns that come to market. Glad I was able to get one before the market goes crazy.
Great job!
Bob

CraigThompson
08-05-2024, 08:31 PM
Very Nice John,

Great shooting, takes more focus than I believe I could muster!!

One of these years I will make it out there to take it all in.

You and I both should’ve gone when it was at Vandalia .

CraigThompson
08-05-2024, 08:32 PM
John how’s your young college aged friend from GA doing at the Grand so far ?

CraigThompson
08-05-2024, 08:36 PM
John
Hard for me to imagine shooting that well as I’m still trying for a 25.

Great job!
Bob

The 25’s will start coming then you’ll want 50’s then 75’s then 100’s it’s a vicious cycle !

John Davis
08-05-2024, 08:37 PM
Killing it!

J. Scott Hanes
08-05-2024, 09:48 PM
It would take some digging, but you may be the FIRST shooter ever to make it to the 27 yard line shooting a Parker exclusively! The 27 did not come into existence until the late 50’s or 60’s so most of the shooters by then were shooting other guns. It would be a good research project for sure. Some of the greats of the 40’s may have achieved the 27 but not likely many. Surely you must be the first in 60 years. Way to go!

CraigThompson
08-05-2024, 11:29 PM
It would take some digging, but you may be the FIRST shooter ever to make it to the 27 yard line shooting a Parker exclusively! The 27 did not come into existence until the late 50’s or 60’s so most of the shooters by then were shooting other guns. It would be a good research project for sure. Some of the greats of the 40’s may have achieved the 27 but not likely many. Surely you must be the first in 60 years. Way to go!

Franzen , sounds like a research job for you :whistle:

Mike Koneski
08-06-2024, 07:55 AM
Well done John! Bring home the BLING!

John Davis
08-06-2024, 08:26 AM
I’m trying but bling is hard to come by at the Grand.

Randy G Roberts
08-06-2024, 08:44 AM
I’m trying but bling is hard to come by at the Grand.

Good Luck John !! On a side note it has been my experience that "Bling" is hard to come by anywhere :rotf:

Drew Hause
08-06-2024, 11:50 AM
Merle Stockdale was placed at 27 yards in February 1955. The first 5 to reach the new 27 yd max were; Merle Stockdale (IA), Arnold Riegger (WA), Dan Orlich (NV), Maynard Henry (CA) and Evelyn Primm (CA), all making it to the 27 by April 16, 1955.
https://www.americantrapshooter.com/threads/27-yard-line.3537/

But 27 yard scores did not appear in the Average Book until 1956.

Nice documentation of guns used by GAH winners, but not their yardage
https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/list-of-shotguns-used-by-trap-winners.256401/

I believe the last Parker was Walter Tulbert who won in 1941

John Davis
08-06-2024, 12:05 PM
I figured Dr. Hause would have the answer.

Drew Hause
08-06-2024, 12:46 PM
I'm just a librarian John.
Well done brother.

William Woods
08-06-2024, 01:34 PM
Congratulations Mr. Davis.

CraigThompson
08-06-2024, 02:30 PM
Good Luck John !! On a side note it has been my experience that "Bling" is hard to come by anywhere :rotf:

Says the guy who left Rock Mountain loaded down with bling :whistle:

CraigThompson
08-06-2024, 02:31 PM
Merle Stockdale was placed at 27 yards in February 1955. The first 5 to reach the new 27 yd max were; Merle Stockdale (IA), Arnold Riegger (WA), Dan Orlich (NV), Maynard Henry (CA) and Evelyn Primm (CA), all making it to the 27 by April 16, 1955.
https://www.americantrapshooter.com/threads/27-yard-line.3537/

But 27 yard scores did not appear in the Average Book until 1956.

Nice documentation of guns used by GAH winners, but not their yardage
https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/list-of-shotguns-used-by-trap-winners.256401/

I believe the last Parker was Walter Tulbert who won in 1941

Was Orlich shooting a Ljutic then ?

Gary Carmichael Sr
08-06-2024, 02:56 PM
Way to go! John you are a insperation to all of us would be trap shooters! Gary

Drew Hause
08-06-2024, 03:31 PM
A Tribute to Al Ljutic, a legend in our sport of trapshooting, from Dan Orlich

Al and I first met in the early 1950's. He was the assistant gun club manager at Harolds Gun Club in Reno, Nv. working with manager and trapshooting great, Phil Miller. Al was young, brash, hard headed, outspoken, AND brilliant! He had no equal in a machine shop; always thinking, experimenting, inventing new things, and never satisfied.....until one day in 1960, he had what he thought was the perfect, single barrel trap gun (aptly named the Ljutic mono gun). All he needed now, as he put it, "was someone to shoot the damn thing." I had done some good shooting in the 50's so he came to me and asked if I would give it a try. In addition to the other "adjectives" I ascribed to him, he was very persuasive, so try I did! After 6 months I told him I would like to continue shooting it, but only on one condition...that he put a "BIG" serial #1 on it. He did, and the rest is history.

He used a pump prior to the Ljutic and it has been reported to have been a Model 31
Prior to shooting Ljutic Bi Gun #1 for doubles he used a Model 32

Chuck Bishop
08-06-2024, 05:45 PM
Congratulations John. Quite an accomplishment.

John Davis
08-06-2024, 08:39 PM
Flying the colors.

Daryl Corona
08-06-2024, 08:47 PM
Way to go John.:bowdown

Buddy Marson
08-07-2024, 08:39 AM
John,
Great work. I am so excited for you!

Buddy

Mike Franzen
08-07-2024, 12:24 PM
Franzen , sounds like a research job for you :whistle:

From what research I’ve done there is very little information about the make and model of the guns. But I’ll look deeper.

Brett Farley
08-07-2024, 09:43 PM
CONGRATS John! Outstanding!!

John Davis
08-08-2024, 07:54 AM
My run at this year’s Grand is over and I’m headed home. I finished up yesterday with a 99x100 in the Champion of Champions event, which wasn’t good enough to keep me in the carry over for ties in today’s singles event. There were 5 other State Champions who ran them. I’ve had a great run and figured I’d quit while I was ahead. Besides, I’ve been away from the farm long enough and the crops need tending.

As a final word, any of you out there who might be shy about competing with your Parker (or other favorite vintage trap gun) in an ATA registered target event, don’t be. They will crush just as many targets as any modern space gun out there, as long as you do your part. Remember, there is no substitute for practice.

Garry L Gordon
08-08-2024, 08:53 AM
Hard to believe that a 99 wouldn't be enough. That's rarified air.

Congratulations on a great performance.

CraigThompson
08-08-2024, 12:54 PM
Hard to believe that a 99 wouldn't be enough. That's rarified air.

Congratulations on a great performance.

Most ATA or NSSA 100 bird Champ of Champ events take a 100 to get into the actual race (the shoot offs).

John Davis
08-08-2024, 01:30 PM
If I had been shooting in the Veteran category, I would have been in the carryover.

Mike Franzen
08-09-2024, 07:18 PM
Great shooting! You make us all proud!

Randy Davis
08-11-2024, 10:50 AM
Orlich was shooting a Model 12... He started shooting the Ljutic Mono Serial #1 around 1960...

Drew Hause
08-11-2024, 11:57 AM
This is the only image I've found of Orlich and his pump; unfortunately low resolution. Joe Hiestand on his left. Randy will know who is on his right - I don't think it's George Snellenberger

https://photos.smugmug.com/Trap-Skeet/Trap/i-Bxt29gT/0/KbBfVxtPjQtgZPZvvjdtDHchfW5DFKV3KkKsHKFrX/M/Dan%20Orlich%2C%20Joe%20Hiestand-M.png (https://drewhause.smugmug.com/Trap-Skeet/Trap/i-Bxt29gT/A)

Chuck Bishop
08-11-2024, 01:11 PM
George Newmaster?