I cannot assemble...how to assemble

[charlie hill]

I just got a parker double barrel shotgun from my wifes grandfather.
I have never had a double barrel before. (only a pump)

It is circa 1936.
Has no hammers.
Is 20 gauge.

Came in a case apart.

Ok,so I am able to put the barrel to the receiver no problem
I am able to put the forend on the barrel when it is not on the receiver.

I cannot get the whole package together.

If I put the barrel to the receiver I cannot get the forend on and visa versa.

I had thought you put the barrel to the receiver and then the forend to the barrel.

What am I doing wrong ?

Thanks
Charlie

[Robin Lewis]

You may not be doing anything wrong? Do the barrels have extractors or ejectors? Sometimes the guns with ejectors get them uncocked and they are in the forend. If that is the case they 1) may need repair or 2) simply need to be re-cocked before assembly.

There was a thread reciently where someone more knowledgeable than I had a slick way to re-cock them. I use a piece of scrap wood and lots of effort but it can damage your hand and or trhe foprend if you slip doing it that way.

I'll search around and see if I can find the thread that had the better method (that I have not used). If I find it, I'll post it here for you.

But, if you have extractors, then its something else?

[Robin Lewis]

I found it, http://parkerguns.org/pages/faq/ForendProblem.htm

[charlie hill]

thanks so much.
I will try this and let you know how it works out.

[charlie hill]

well I have ejectors.
I for each barrel there is 1.

I pulled out the extractors..but on the forend....then tried to push in the extractors.
They did not latch or stay in.

So I assume that means I have a broken something " ejector sear" ?

Does that sound right ?

Bummer..it is a beautiful gun. If this proves true then I will have to find a gunsmith to fix it.

Thanks for your help

Charlie

[Dave Suponski]

Charlie Welcome! I sounds like the ejectors need to be cocked. That is assuming of course that the gun has ejectors. What grade of gun is it?

[charlie hill]

I believe the gun has extractors.
I.e they are split for each barrel.

I believe the grade is GH 2 (grade 2 I guess)

Anyways I tried to cock the extractors via the link
http://parkerguns.org/pages/faq/ForendProblem.htm
But when I push them in they just pop back out.

Any suggestions ?

[Dave Suponski]

Charlie, If you are trying to cock the ejectors by pushing them in at the breech end of the barrels that will not work. The ejector hammers that are located in the forend are what needs to be cocked. This process can be a little tricky for the uninitiated.

[Robin Lewis]

Dave,

take a look at the FAQ I pointed him too. I have never tried to do it this way but it makes sense to me?

Rather than pushing the hammers(?) on the forend the way I have seen you do, the FAQ suggests removing the barrels and pulling the ejectors out to the fired position; then putting the forend on the barrels (the barrels are still NOT on the frame). That simulates the barrels being on the frame and the ejectors in the fired position.

Then place the muzzles on a carpeted floor and press down on the ejectors to get them back into the cocked position (use a book or a scrap of wood to push them GENTLY down). Pushing down on the ejectors at the chambers should transfer the force through the rods and cock the ejector hammers on the attached forend..... yes?

If they stay cocked, the forend can be removed from the barrels; the barrels replaced on the frame and the forend put back on and the gun is back in good working order.

If they do not stay in the cocked position and the ejectors pop back out the forend will need to be repaired by a competent Parker gunsmith (Larry DelGrego?).

Does this sound right? Does my FAQ read OK or do I need to rework it?

Robin

[Dave Suponski]

Robin, That would seem to make perfect sense. For me though I think I would be a little worried about bending the ejector blades as they are kinda delicate.And if that happened I would feel like a spring loaded dumbass.....

[Robin Lewis]

good point ......

While we were at the Southern we heard a man with a thick southern accent call someone a "spring loaded dumb ass".... I have no idea what the spring loaded part is all about. Any idea's boys? Can anyone enlighten a northern boy what that means!

[Ed Blake]

A "spring loaded dumbass" is roughly the same as a "gold plated dumbass" here in Va. The gentleman was probably from somewhere in the Carolinas.

[charlie hill]

Well I guess I will have to take the gun to a gunsmith.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a gunsmith in Northern Va area ?

[Russ Jackson]

Hello Charlie ,Although I came in late on your post ,Maybe this will help ,this is what needs cocked ,Use the eraser and push back easily until it clicks ! Hope this helps ! Russ

[charlie hill]

Yee ha..thanks so much...that did it.

Thanks again for your help.

I can't wait to fire it.

I will have to get it to issac walton skeet range asap.

[Russ Jackson]

Charlie ,WONDERFUL !!!!!!!!!!!!! I went clear back to 2006 ,in the old hard drive to locate these pics. ,glad I hadn't deleted them ! :) Russ

[charlie hill]

I appreciate the effort.
I always wanted one of these gun.
It just came in the mail one day from my mother in law.
What a sweet heart

Thanks again

[Russ Jackson]

Charlie ,Post some pictures ,we all like looking at each others guns ,especially when one of us picks up a new one we haven't gotten a look at before ! I am waiting for one to come any day ! Sent the check out Sunday Night ,hoping to receive it before weekend ! I hope you realize once you start shooting that 20 Ga. Parker ,you will probably become infected with the dreaded " Parker Fever " :eek:,most of us here have already contacted this disease ,it promotes symptoms of constantly searching for the next Parker purchase and unbelievable problems on how to extract money from the existing budget ! Once you catch it ,you have got it ,I have never heard of any one ever being cured of it ! :) Good Luck with your new gun and enjoy it now that you have it up and running ! Russ

[charlie hill]

I will try to get some pictures posted today.

[charlie hill]

Here are some pictures

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_CNVgkjcg_4o/TcGSPfbc3DI/AAAAAAAAAzk/FxOiXOYDbu0/s640/gun%20001.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_CNVgkjcg_4o/TcGSO-mrywI/AAAAAAAAAzg/YqZs4T6CcL8/s640/gun%20003.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_CNVgkjcg_4o/TcGSN4FeXXI/AAAAAAAAAzc/I5OpEvajE9Y/s640/gun%20002.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_CNVgkjcg_4o/TcGSN4FeXXI/AAAAAAAAAzc/I5OpEvajE9Y/s640/gun%20002.jpg

[Scott Gentry]

Beautiful, thanks for sharing.

[charlie hill]

I just got back from Issac Walton and fired the gun for the first time.
It is a very sweet shooting gun
I love it.
My sons can't wait to try it out.

Thanks again for all your help.

[Jerry Mouer]

Charlie,
It souhds to me like you have a nice GHE that hasn't been out of the gun case for a few years. Moving parts need lubrication. I would suggest that you put a drop of oil on each ejector hammer, place the forend on the barrels, muzzle on the carpet. Now take a small block of wood that fits in the palm of your hand and push down on the ejector blades many times to work the oil down into the system, I will bet you that the hammer will catch and stay cocked at some piont, first one side then the other. This has worked for me on several old ejecter guns over these many years.
Good Luck

[Scott Janowski]

You won the mother in law Lotto! A 20 gauge GHE SKEET! WOW!!

[Brent Francis]

I second that. Mother in law of year!