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Frank Srebro
05-25-2024, 09:06 PM
We often talk about honey and smoke mineral streaking relative to gunstocks and I'd Iike to share this example. New to me MX20 Perazzi 20-gauge Sporting gun with its 80cm (31-1/2") tubes. Bores at.626” (15.9mm). Weight: 7-6+. Made in 2012/13, lightly used and she just came from a Dealer friend. I shot her today 50 birds and all I can say is, I'm pumped! frank
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Daryl Corona
05-25-2024, 09:27 PM
Beautiful gun Frank. You know my love for Perazzis and especially the smallbores. I will be shooting my MX20 when I come on Weds. Let the games begin.

Buddy Marson
05-25-2024, 09:57 PM
I recently received my MX8 20 from Perazzi. 31 1/2" MOD/MOD. Perfect SC Gun (Senior Citizen Gun).

Daryl Corona
05-25-2024, 11:01 PM
I recently received my MX8 20 from Perazzi. 31 1/2" MOD/MOD. Perfect SC Gun (Senior Citizen Gun).

Nice Buddy. It does make a wonderful SC gun. I guess we both fall into the Senior Citizen category so enjoy it while we can still walk and chew gum.:)

todd allen
05-26-2024, 11:50 AM
A guy I used to shoot with offered me an MX 20/28 in its factory case for 6k.
One of my bigger regrets is not taking that deal.

Daryl Corona
05-26-2024, 01:26 PM
A guy I used to shoot with offered me an MX 20/28 in its factory case for 6k.
One of my bigger regrets is not taking that deal.

Boy....I'll say.

Don't feel bad, I passed up a 2 barrel M21 20ga in a fitted case for 4k. Didn't realize how valuable it would have been today.

CraigThompson
05-26-2024, 01:31 PM
Frank if you feel so inclined bring the MX-20 to Hausemann’s I’d love to see it !

Frank Srebro
05-26-2024, 03:55 PM
Craig I’ll bring her along to HH but I’ll only be shooting SxS’s and a SBT gun for the Fox Collectors’ WC Letterman event.

CraigThompson
05-26-2024, 04:23 PM
Craig I’ll bring her along to HH but I’ll only be shooting SxS’s and a SBT gun for the Fox Collectors’ WC Letterman event.

I’ve had the Corona MX’s in my paws as well as the Chucksters K-20 and I like them all which is part of the problem :rotf::rotf:

Craig Larter
05-27-2024, 02:53 PM
Frank and Daryl- so the stock configuration on your guns are called "sporting" or "game" which is more of a game gun style verses the full competition style with adjustable combs and very full pistol grips etc.?
Here's a handsome DC 12 game
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/perazzi-shotguns/perazzi-dc-12-blued-game-side-by-side-12ga-30-quot-086-.cfm?gun_id=102606452
The only problem I see in buying a modern clays gun is I would not be shooting my vintage guns. ��

Frank Srebro
05-27-2024, 06:23 PM
My MX20 pictured here is kind of a hybrid "UK style" with a sporting/game style buttstock and a game forend. I haven't seen Daryl's MX20 except for that one pic, and so its best for him to reply. On the other hand my new MX8 in 12-gauge is a competition gun with an adjustable comb, palm swell and beefier buttstock. But it has the game style forend which I wanted. Also the adjustable comb so I can shoot sporting as usual and quickly move/from Trap when I occasionally shoot it. Besides personal dimensions, many options for wood configuration and barrel length/weight are available. Also increasing levels of better wood figure. And then you have the different frame sizes with drop out or fixed trigger, selectable or not, and coil or leaf hammer springs. Really, every P gun is made to order and it's fair to say that no two of them are exactly the same. I understand the factory currently makes only about 1600 guns/year. Perazzis are noted for superb barrel and choke regulation, weight balance, swing dynamics and reliability; and with a modicum of care it's common for guns to run 100,000+ rounds before a tiny oversize locking block might be needed. A common saying amongst P gun shooters is "do you want to drive a Ferrari or a Tiger tank, or a log truck" .... or other similar comparisons? Not my saying, just posting what I've heard from higher class level sporting clays shooters many times. :)

Craig, that Perazzi in the link you posted looks and sounds good except that I'd prefer a selectable trigger and I don't like checkered butts. Just my personal preferences.

Daryl Corona
05-27-2024, 06:33 PM
My MX20 is actually a skeet gun configured Perazzi with the target gun style forend with 29 1/2" barrels. It turned out to be the perfect, for me, sporting clays gun.

Craig Larter
05-28-2024, 05:55 AM
Thanks so much for your replies and education. Always learning---- I never realized how you can customize a Perazzi. If I had the talent I would consider one, but I enjoy shooting and collecting a great variety of guns.

Buddy Marson
05-28-2024, 08:22 AM
You would not regret buying that gun. My DC12 has the same Purdey stock with the beavertail forend. A real joy to shoot!

Andrew Sacco
05-28-2024, 10:53 AM
If anyone wants to see a High Tech Lusso with long legs I can bring her to Hausmanns. It's a 33" 12g with SC2 wood and Wilkinson chokes. I am thinking of selling it for an MX2000 or small gauge Perazzi. I do not have the talent but God I love them so much.

Daryl Corona
05-28-2024, 08:11 PM
Craig, they are like driving a sports car, a Ferrari if you will. I love shooting my SxS's but the P gun takes it to another whole level. I'll have my 20 and 28 and you are welcome to take them for a test drive.

Andy, I'd like to see your gun . I looked at a HT Lusso and the MX8 platform just felt livelier in my hands. Great gun though.

Andrew Sacco
05-29-2024, 09:10 AM
I'll bring it down Daryl. I agree, the MX8 is a bit livelier. Craig, the Perazzi are all made to order. No two are alike. When I got mine fitted it included the usual drop, cast, pitch, LOP etc. But you have the choice of like 26 fore ends, rib style, height, bead type, palm swell size, and the placement of the trigger so when you mount the gun your index finger lays exactly where it should be, as you like it. I have shot lights out with it, and then stunk up the bed when the 6" between my ears kicks in. So it's not magic, but they sure as hell recoil nice. I have fixed chokes and will never buy another gun with choke tubes if I can avoid it. My favorite shell, if I can even find them anymore, are Clever Mirage 7/8 oz 1300fps. Recoil very light and absolutely powder targets at any distance. All in all, when you consider you had a gun made FOR YOU for about $14,000 it's a good deal. I've been through a lot of other guns and would have been smarter doing this ten years ago. The other unmentioned thing is the incredible number of parts and stocks available and support, and the fact they hold their value so well. Congrats Frank!

Chuck Bishop
05-29-2024, 09:29 AM
You boys should get Perazzi to sponsor you. What a love fest.

Randy G Roberts
05-29-2024, 09:40 AM
Not a Perazzi but if you like the Honey & Smoke wood here's a Frankengun Parker 28 gauge that might work for you.

Chuck Bishop
05-29-2024, 09:47 AM
I hope that's your gun Randy!

Randy G Roberts
05-29-2024, 09:49 AM
I hope that's your gun Randy!

It is.

Stan Hoover
05-29-2024, 09:49 AM
You boys should get Perazzi to sponsor you. What a love fest.

Seems like a bunch of high school girls:rotf:

Daryl Corona
05-29-2024, 10:13 AM
You boys should get Perazzi to sponsor you. What a love fest.

Those who can do. Those who can't , well they can't.:)

Mike Koneski
05-29-2024, 01:07 PM
Seems like a bunch of high school girls:rotf:

"Tell me more. Tell me more. Like does he own a car....." :corn:

Andrew Sacco
05-29-2024, 04:16 PM
"Tell me more. Tell me more. Like does he own a car....." :corn:

"Better than a car, he owns a Perazzi."

:cool:

CraigThompson
05-29-2024, 05:23 PM
"Better than a car, he owns a Perazzi."

:cool:

Batta bing batta boom :rotf:

todd allen
05-29-2024, 07:19 PM
You boys should get Perazzi to sponsor you. What a love fest.

I've made good money with a Perazzi, and I'm not talking about knocking off liquor stores.
I'm not the only one. Go to a pigeon shoot and look at what's in the racks.

TOM DAMIANI
05-31-2024, 07:43 PM
Iagree the something specials with Perazzis and comparsion to Italian sport cars . My perazzi clone Renato Gamma is Lamborghini in my mind not a Kiser Tank .

CraigThompson
05-31-2024, 08:01 PM
Iagree the something specials with Perazzis and comparsion to Italian sport cars . My perazzi clone Renato Gamma is Lamborghini in my mind not a Kiser Tank .

If I’m comparing Italian guns to Ferraris Masaratti’s etc I’m thinking more Fabbri and Bossis rather than Perazzi :rotf::rotf::rotf:

Frank Srebro
05-31-2024, 08:15 PM
If I’m comparing Italian guns to Ferraris Masaratti’s etc I’m thinking more Fabbri and Bossis rather than Perazzi :rotf::rotf::rotf:

And how many of them were used to set Olympic clays shooting records? :whistle:

CraigThompson
05-31-2024, 08:27 PM
And how many of them were used to set Olympic clays shooting records? :whistle:

Dunno about the Olympic events . But I DO know you see more than a couple at pigeon ring events . Heck I know a 90 year old lady that shoots a Fabbri she used it if memory serves twice to win the Kings Cup ladies division in Madrid .

Daryl Corona
05-31-2024, 09:39 PM
Keep in mind that Ivo Fabbri and Daniele Perazzi worked together in the beginning but parted ways because Perazzi wanted to make competition guns and Fabbri wanted to make the finest quality guns. Both accomplished their goals.

CraigThompson
05-31-2024, 10:51 PM
Keep in mind that Ivo Fabbri and Daniele Perazzi worked together in the beginning but parted ways because Perazzi wanted to make competition guns and Fabbri wanted to make the finest quality guns. Both accomplished their goals.

As a matter of fact Fabbri also made/makes sports/race cars .

todd allen
06-02-2024, 11:30 AM
Now that Perazzi has been acquired by Czech CSG Group, will we see some high end AK 47s on the field?
;-)

Andrew Sacco
06-02-2024, 01:56 PM
I shot with Giacomo yesterday at Binghamton and he was like a son to Danielle. He told me that they will not alter their course and the quality will be the same if not better. They lost a lot of named shooters to beretta but will mostly likely use the Czech groups money to start signing more names for NSCA etc and do more marketing. Apparently they don’t want to be beretta also making plastic guns but maintain the brand. We’ll see.

todd allen
06-02-2024, 04:42 PM
I was at a big trap shoot a few years back at the old Las Vegas Gun Club, and Giacomo and Lucio were both working out of the same booth.
They offered to give my SC-3 a quick tune-up, and I actually had both of the Perazzi Masters working on my gun at the same time. Stupid me, I didn't get a picture.

Alfred Houde
06-03-2024, 06:57 AM
Years ago, a Marine Corps Captain contacted me about excess firearms he had slated for destruction. He wanted to know if the museum might be interested in any. My then assistant and I drove over to Weapons Training Battalion to see what they had.

In a rack were two over and under shotguns. I asked about them and the Captain confirmed that they were slated for destruction. One was a Krieghoff K-32 and the other a Perazzi. We took those two along with a couple of military small arms that filled gaps in the museum collection. Both shotguns had been used by the Marine Corps Shooting Team. I learned later that one, I believe the Krieghoff had been used in Olympic competition.

I never could find out much about the Perazzi before I retired, but Krieghoff sent me the whole history of that gun to include the original USMC sales order. I placed all of the information into the artifact record file.

They now reside in the collection of the National Museum of the Marine Corps. They will never be fired again, and will probably never be placed on display, but at least they were not cut-up and disposed of.

Frank Srebro
06-03-2024, 07:37 AM
...... Heck I know a 90 year old lady that shoots a Fabbri she used it if memory serves twice to win the Kings Cup ladies division in Madrid .

As a matter of fact Fabbri also made/makes sports/race cars .

One model of the Hudson Hornet was made for stock-car races and it won a few of them back in the day. Just one of many sports/race cars that had their brief moment in the sun. The great ones are talked about today as examples of benchmark design and engineering, the lesser ones not so much.

RonKiska
06-04-2024, 07:28 PM
I had a Perazzi MX3 Tula choked skeet gun with Kolar tubes back in the mid 80's. Loved the gun. Had issues with non firing (drop trigger non selective top barrel leaf springs) and sent it to Giacamo in Rome, NY (I think he was part of Perazzi). Got the gun back, same issue. Sent back, got back, same issue.

Sent a fax to Perazzi Italy expressing dissatisfaction and received a personal reply from Danielle saying, "send the gun back I will personally see to it that it gets fixed."

Gun came back fixed with upgraded super high end grade wood all fitted to prior measurements at no charge.

Never had an issue after.

Sold it late 80's. Regretted.

Bought an identical replacement a year ago with old Briley tubes that were just upgraded by Briley.

The P gun just fits like a glove. Shot CG, Fabarm, Beretta, and K80 and while all nice, not the same "point and shoot" as a P gun. Only gun that comes close is a Blaser F3. I shot one of those once and that was a nice gun. Really nice.