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Forrest Grilley
04-26-2011, 11:49 AM
Have any of you guys come across those white cardboard, fold up, cartridge boxes for 2 7/8" 10 ga? I've checked all the reloading suppliers that I can think of, but have yet to find any in that configuration.

I can find plastic boxes for them, but it just rubs me wrong about putting my blackpowder filled, brass cases in a plastic box. Maybe I'll just have to go to a shrink to get over my compulsiveness, but then again they just might think my obsession of loading blackpowder in brass cases is the bigger problem> :confused:

charlie cleveland
04-26-2011, 01:36 PM
good luck finding those boxes...im no help...charlie

Richard Flanders
04-26-2011, 04:07 PM
Just get some cardboard and some glue and make some..... can't be that difficult...

Forrest Grilley
04-26-2011, 04:25 PM
Just get some cardboard and some glue and make some..... can't be that difficult...


I think that's what I'll probably end up having to do. Now I'll just have to find an old 10 ga. Parker box label that I can scan.....Yeah, I know, good luck.

charlie cleveland
04-26-2011, 04:33 PM
please post us some pictures of your parker 10 ga shells when you get them completed...should be a very attactive box...... charlie

Bill Murphy
04-26-2011, 07:33 PM
I want to see the old ten gauge Parker box. By the way, do you have the facilities to make one piece shell boxes from a pattern. We can send you a model if this is what you need.

Forrest Grilley
04-27-2011, 07:43 AM
I want to see the old ten gauge Parker box. By the way, do you have the facilities to make one piece shell boxes from a pattern. We can send you a model if this is what you need.

No, unfortunately my facilities would involve sitting at my work bench with an X-acto knife cutting out sheet stock, making one at a time.

I believe there are box manufacturers who will make anything you need, as long as they have dimensions. With a little searching I might be able to come up with something. I'm not sure what the minimum order would be though.....I'm sure there are probably enough guys here shooting short tens that might want a few. I'll see if I can find anything reasonable.

Bill Murphy
04-27-2011, 09:05 AM
Alex Papp at RST obviously has a source for one piece boxes and the printing of marvelous logos. Unfortunately, their ten gauge boxes are ten packs, not twenty fives. However, Alex may be willing to share his source with you.

Paul Harm
04-28-2011, 02:37 PM
Make your own, it's not very hard. Fine a 10ga box, take it apart and trace around it. Then measure the amount less you want and shorten the necessary sides. I've done it for 2" 12ga and 2 1/2" 12ga a number of times. Doesn't take that long. Paul

charlie cleveland
05-04-2011, 10:08 PM
forrest how are you coming along with them boxes...looking forward to seeing them... charlie

Jack Kuzepski
05-18-2011, 12:24 PM
A tip you may want to use if making your own paperboard boxes is to get an old rotary pizza cutter and really round off the edge, make it round and not sharp. Before you start folding up the box you cut out, lay a straight edge on the back side of where the fold will be and score it with the pizza cutter. The score will give you sharp, straight creases and make the folds very easy. It will probably be even easier if you do the scoring after you mark the cutout lines of the box but before you cut it out.

Jack Kuzepski

Bill Murphy
05-18-2011, 02:04 PM
Jack, that's great advice for those of us who don't make a lot of cardboard folds. P.H., no need for him to adjust his patterns. I have already volunteered to send him patterns. Of course, I haven't heard from him.

Forrest Grilley
05-18-2011, 03:54 PM
Jack, that's great advice for those of us who don't make a lot of cardboard folds. P.H., no need for him to adjust his patterns. I have already volunteered to send him patterns. Of course, I haven't heard from him.

Geez, sorry, I guess I didn't know I was working on your schedule. I've been busy designing and turning out some 10 ga., thin walled, brass hulls on our company's swiss lathe to go in the boxes first. I have to finish that project before I can design the boxes for them to go in. I guess I just need to keep to myself from now on.

Bill Murphy
05-20-2011, 09:30 AM
Didn't mean to offend. I was just reminding Paul that there is not a need to adjust an existing pattern when a working pattern is available.

Forrest Grilley
05-20-2011, 12:36 PM
Don't worry about it. I should apologize, I think I was having a bad day earlier this week. Like most people, I get myself into too many projects at once and get overwhelmed sometimes.

I've been turning out some thin walled brass 10 ga hulls and mill engraving the Parker headstamp markings on them. I'm pretty pleased with how they are turning out. I need to load them up with some black powder and card wads and start trying them out over the next few weeks. If things work well I'll start designing some boxes for them.

Thanks again for the pattern offer. I'll keep that in mind when I'm ready to cross that bridge.

Bill Murphy
05-24-2011, 11:04 AM
Forrest, a standard one piece box for 3 1/2" ten gauge shells may serve as a pattern for the 2 7/8" brass shells. A standard one piece box for 2 7/8" shells would serve as a pattern for star crimped paper or plastic 2 7/8" shells. Such boxes have curved edges on certain areas. A two piece box, in contrast, has all square edges on the pattern and would be easier to fabricate with hand tools, and would make a more impressive box. A two piece box also displays the headstamps and crimps of the shell, where the one piece box only displays the side of the shell. The only drawback of a two piece box is that it has to be glued or supported by a paper cover.

Jim DiSpagno
06-03-2011, 08:10 AM
Forrest Try "The Old Western Scrounger" I was amazed at what he comes up with..

Milton Starr
06-15-2011, 09:16 PM
Why not just get a small wood box. Similar size to what you need that would be even more classic. Maybe oak ?

Milton Starr
06-15-2011, 09:22 PM
Just a idea http://www.etsy.com/listing/62279627/presentation-case-spanish-cedar-and?ref=cat2_gallery_8

David Holes
12-11-2011, 11:31 AM
Bill, Is the 10 ga. pattern you have for a 2 piece box ? Thanks Dave

Mark Landskov
12-11-2011, 01:33 PM
The mail order outfits that provide reloading components have plain white boxes for 3-1/2" 10 gauge shells. Unfortunately, they are of the modern one-piece configuration and would require a flat piece of styrofoam, or such, to take up the empty space and reduce shifting of the contents.

Bill Murphy
12-11-2011, 08:07 PM
Dave, I guess what I referred to as a "pattern" is just a one piece box that can be laid out and duplicated. I have two piece boxes, but I wouldn't want to have to duplicate them. A one piece box is much easier.

David Holes
12-11-2011, 09:20 PM
I took a 3.5 inch box and made a 1 piece. Getting everything exact is challenging. Made one out of calender backing. A good starting place. Not perfect but close. I think a 2 piece would be a lot cooler. I'll keep working on this over the winter. Maybe I can get a Dead Shot Powder reproduced sticker to put on it. Thanks Dave

charlie cleveland
12-12-2011, 06:32 AM
would love to see the finished box withe deadshot powder sticker....i think you got a winner....charlie

Bill Murphy
12-12-2011, 10:11 AM
If someone would design a laid out pattern that would fold into a two piece box, next step would be to create a punch to cut the pattern. What a great project for someone. Computer generated "rare and valuable" labels should be a piece of cake. How are cutting punches made? We have a cardboard box factory down the road. If I can't get an answer here, maybe I'll ask them.

Dave Suponski
12-12-2011, 12:03 PM
Short run paper cutting dies can made fairly easily using .020/.030 tempered spring steel sharpened on one edge. After this is done take a block of 3/4" plywood layout your box template,cut slots for the spring steel to fit into leaving about 1/4" exposed. Place your card stock on a cutting board,turn the die over and tap with a mallet and presto a nice clean cut ready for folding.

Bill Murphy
12-12-2011, 08:42 PM
Dave, could you make one of those dies for me and maybe a formica cutting board? Let me know.

Ray Pond
12-12-2011, 08:47 PM
I know of a company that I haul into that has the means to make any box. I will give them a holler tomorrow and see what they say.Ray

Dave Suponski
12-12-2011, 08:50 PM
Hey Bill.....I'll make ya one with a granite cutting board....:rolleyes:

Theodore LeDurt
12-12-2011, 09:06 PM
A wood El Rey Del Mundo Robustos (Oscuro) box perfectly fits two boxes (50 shells) of 2 7/8" 10ga shells. Not only smoking these fine cigars will bring you pleasure, but just repeating their name will make you bilingual! And the wood box will enhance your gunning bag.

Don Kaas
12-26-2011, 04:05 PM
I just buy the BP 3 1/2" 10 gauge white boxes and cut a piece of thick cardboard or styrofoam to slip in and take up the the slack...you box builders must have a lot of time on your hands:bigbye:

E Robert Fabian
12-26-2011, 07:27 PM
Just buy these and you don't have be concerned with them getting wet.
http://www.ballisticproducts.com/MTM-10-or-12ga-3-1_2-25rd-Fliptop-green/productinfo/1342514/

CraigThompson
01-14-2012, 05:40 PM
I've been using regular old 20 gauge 2 3/4" boxes . They only hold 16 rounds but thats plenty for what I need as usually I just box #4's and 00 Buck .