Trojan question

[Phil Yearout]

What would typically be the chamber length on a 1935 16ga Trojan?

[Phil Yearout]

Um, OK; anyone? Please?

[Daryl Corona]

At that date Phil I'm going to guess 2 5/8 but it could be 2 1/2. You would need to measure it to be sure. But if this helps I've shot nothing but 2 3/4" out of all my Parkers, Foxes, Lefevers and even my Wm Ford damascus 20 with no problem. Of course I handload and keep the pressures and payloads down to sensible levels.

[Phil Yearout]

Thank Dary. I don't have the gun, and my question is self-serving. On another site a guy asked if he could shoot 1-1/8oz Remington Express loads at turkeys out of his 1935 Trojan; he says a 2-3/4" shell drops right in but didn't say if he'd measured the chambers. I said I've shot many boxes of 2-3/4" shells through my 1926 16ga Trojan, both 1oz and some 1-1/8oz. I do try to stay under 1200fps. Those Remy Express loads list at 1295, a little stiffer than I'd prefer, but I said I doubted shooting a few would hurt anything. I was definitely a minority of one, and was chastised for using anything but 2-1/2" shells :)!

[James L. Martin]

I had a 1935 16ga Trojan and it had 2 5/8 " chambers for 2 3/4" shells.

[Phil Yearout]

A blade gauge goes into my 1926 to 2-3/4". Have no idea if they have been lengthened.

[Harold Lee Pickens]

I saw the post you're referring to, and I agree with you, I'd shoot the heavier loads thru it on occasion with out worry--like for turkeys.

[Randy G Roberts]

This from a 1936 Trojan 16.

[Dave Noreen]

The Remington era Parker specification sheets reproduced in The Parker Story show a 2 5/8-inch chamber for 2 3/4-inch shells.

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I would think that under Remington ownership they would have gone to chambering the 16-gauge for 2 3/4-inch shells pretty quickly as Remington was the main mover and shaker for the 2 3/4-inch 16-gauge shell when they introduced their Model 11 and The Sportsman autoloaders in 16-gauge in 1931 made for 2 3/4-inch shells.

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When Remington introduced their Model 31 pump in 16-gauge in 1933 it was also made for 2 3/4-inch shells.

[David Case]

My Trojan 1935 16ga has 2-3/4" chambering with chamber gauge. Right barrel bore and choke .665"-.641 =.024, left .664-.633 =.031, 28"barrels weight 6lbs, 6 ounces, ser.237602 , stock 1-5/8" x 2-1/2",x14"

[David Case]

Pictures of Trojan

[David Case]

Barrels,she is clean,not abused

[Mark Forabosco]

that is a fine looking gun

[Bill Murphy]

It would be nearly impossible to blow up a 1935 Trojan with any 2 3/4" shell you could buy today.

[allen newell]

I love shooting my 20 ga Trojan on both skeet and birds.

[Phil Yearout]

It would be nearly impossible to blow up a 1935 Trojan with any 2 3/4" shell you could buy today.

The majority of the concerns voiced were not about the metal but the wood.

[Harold Lee Pickens]

I think I want a Trojan 20!

[Phil Yearout]

I think I want a Trojan 20!

Me too!

[David Case]

I think I want a Trojan 20!

Jaquas fine guns has a few Trojan 20's.

[James L. Martin]

I have 2 20ga Trojans, great guns. The best Parker for the money.

[David Case]

I have 2 20ga Trojans, great guns. The best Parker for the money.

I agree made just as well without the frills. That's the problem they were made to hunt and shoot a most are used up. Finding a nice Trojan is getting harder to find. In 16ga. Only 6,500 were made. 33,005 total in all ga's. This 16 is my second the first was a 12ga.

[Mike Franzen]

Hell, I have a A-1 Special 12ga. Trojan in mint condition. 30in. beaver tail,
the best one I ever saw. ( Double Triggers to booth ) !

Harry

Let’s see some pictures

[Harold Lee Pickens]

Hell, I have a A-1 Special 12ga. Trojan in mint condition. 30in. beaver tail,
the best one I ever saw. ( Double Triggers to booth ) !

Harry

?????

[matt koepnick]

Hey all. I was just in Cabelas in Centerville Oh and was looking at their 12 gauge Trojan listed in their Gun library . Was 800.00 list. Gun was in ok condition
When i ran the barrel inspection i was surprised to see it was 2 1/2 chamber. Double checked my measurements and it was minimal 2 1/2 . not even close to 2 9/16. I was using my Brownell's set which is machinist quality. Bores were .735. choked .040 both sides.
The guy in charge had no clue what i was talking about being short short chamber, and sealed his argument by stuffing a snap cap (2 1/4 long) in the chamber and closing the action says "2 3/4". . I packed up and left San gun. The wife was outside the inspection room, and grabbed me saying lets go as she was done with them too. Guess doesnt pay to try to save at Bass Pro/Cabelas .
Any way, 2 1/2 chamber . 1926 manufacture. Mattly

[Harold Lee Pickens]

Cabela's? Yeah that doesn't surprise me, they are not vintage gun literate. Pointed out to them that a gun with blued barrels was actually Damascus and stamped as such. They didn't believe me because the barrels were "blued".

[Bill Murphy]

I buy the gun, not the owner or salesman. In most instances, a salesman who is uninformed or arrogant is your greatest friend in a gun deal.

[Phil Yearout]

I buy the gun, not the owner or salesman. In most instances, a salesman who is uninformed or arrogant is your greatest friend in a gun deal.

Except for the ones who firmly believe a gun is worth a lot more than it is :)

[allen newell]

I don't recall where or when I bought my 20 ga Trojan but it was in serious need of work so I shipped it out to Brad Bachelder after speaking with Brad. I told Brad to strip and clean the frame, make a repair to the toe of the butt stock, re-case color the frame and re-blue the barrels if he thought appropriate. Got the Trojan back a number of months later and needless to say Brad's work was just outstanding. The gun fits me like a glove, and I probably shoot it more frequently than my other Parkers. At the Club, I continue to get raves about this gun from my friends and others. Entry level Parker or not, it's a great gun to shoot clays with and birds as well. Every time I pick this Trojan up I'm reminded of my conversations with Brad Bachelder and the highest regard for the quality of work he performed. May he rest in peace and may the Trojan he restored bring joy and fun for many years to come.

[Garry L Gordon]

I don't recall where or when I bought my 20 ga Trojan but it was in serious need of work so I shipped it out to Brad Bachelder after speaking with Brad. I told Brad to strip and clean the frame, make a repair to the toe of the butt stock, re-case color the frame and re-blue the barrels if he thought appropriate. Got the Trojan back a number of months later and needless to say Brad's work was just outstanding. The gun fits me like a glove, and I probably shoot it more frequently than my other Parkers. At the Club, I continue to get raves about this gun from my friends and others. Entry level Parker or not, it's a great gun to shoot clays with and birds as well. Every time I pick this Trojan up I'm reminded of my conversations with Brad Bachelder and the highest regard for the quality of work he performed. May he rest in peace and may the Trojan he restored bring joy and fun for many years to come.

Allen, I sure miss Brad, too.

[Brian Dudley]

Let’s see some pictures

Harry should post pictures of his “custom” Trojan. It really is a sight to behold…:duck:

[Stan Hillis]

Hell, I have a A-1 Special 12ga. Trojan in mint condition. 30in. beaver tail,
the best one I ever saw. ( Double Triggers to booth ) !

Harry

An A-1 Special Trojan.

Boys and girls ..........can you spell oxymoron?

[Bill Murphy]

I think I remember that Trojan A-1 Special. It was engraved by the "missing engraver". I kind of like it.