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Dan Steingraber
05-02-2024, 09:52 AM
This is not a reloading post so my apologies up front. I was looking for a reasonable option for 16 guage factory shells to shoot in my Parker 16's. I found the Fiocchi Dove loads with 1 oz at 1165 fps and they looked promising so I reached out to Fiocchi and this was their respone.

"Dan,

Most recent runs of those are looking like 6600-7000 psi. Some lots may go a bit higher, I would say 7500 is a good limit for these.



David Lane

Product Services Manager



Email: d.lane@fiocchiusa.com

Phone : 417.449.1039



6930 N. Fremont Rd, Ozark, MO 65721

www.fiocchiusa.com

www.baschieri-pellagriusa.com"

Daryl Corona
05-02-2024, 09:59 AM
I shot those loads Dan and for me the recoil was more than I liked and that was in a 1 frame. You may find them tolerable but I much prefer 7/8 or even better 3/4oz.

Dean Romig
05-02-2024, 10:01 AM
That PSI is very reasonable but the speed in FPS may be the cause of excessive recoil. Depends on the powder they use. Maybe a slower burning powder would be the answer.






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Daryl Corona
05-02-2024, 10:14 AM
Unfortunately unless you can get the RST Falcon lite loads the only way to guarantee low pressure/low recoil 16ga loads is to handload.

Dan Steingraber
05-02-2024, 10:15 AM
I shot those loads Dan and for me the recoil was more than I liked and that was in a 1 frame. You may find them tolerable but I much prefer 7/8 or even better 3/4oz.

Thanks Daryl. I have a few boxes on hand but wanted to know more before I shot them. I would definitly prefer a 3/4 oz load if I could find a factory option under $15/box. I may have to find a 16 guage loader and load my own.

Dean Romig
05-02-2024, 10:19 AM
Yes, Do that Dan - You won't regret it.





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Daryl Corona
05-02-2024, 10:35 AM
What Dean said. I've gone to 3/4oz in every gauge I load and find them more than equal the job I ask of them.

Dan Steingraber
05-02-2024, 10:39 AM
What Dean said. I've gone to 3/4oz in every gauge I load and find them more than equal the job I ask of them.

I'm a convert Daryl. I shot 12 gauge 3/4 once loads at the Southern and it was like shooting a 28 gauge.

Daryl Corona
05-02-2024, 10:54 AM
I'm a convert Daryl. I shot 12 gauge 3/4 once loads at the Southern and it was like shooting a 28 gauge.

Yes and it's what makes a 28 gauge so much fun to shoot.

Mike Koneski
05-02-2024, 11:08 AM
1 oz at 1165 is very reasonable especially at 7500 FPS or less. I shoot Fiocchi factory shells too and they break birds. I reload 2 3/4" and 2 1/2" 16g hulls. I use Green Dot, Unique and Longshot. All make soft shooting 1 oz loads and they stone pheasants even in the 2 1/2" hulls. Only reason I load 2 1/2" hulls is because I have so many of them. Plenty of recipes for both hull sizes.

edgarspencer
05-02-2024, 12:19 PM
1165 fps isn't very fast, but dropping the load from one ounce to 3/4 oz is a 25% reduction in mass. The force to get an ounce up to speed will be reduced significantly having to only get 3/4 ounce up to speed. Remember when they told you in physics class that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction?

Mike Koneski
05-02-2024, 08:04 PM
I remember physics class. 1 oz at 1165 is easy peasy. Try 1 1/2+ at 1200 + in an 8 bore. That’ll put manners on recoil-sensitive shooters.

Stan Hillis
05-03-2024, 07:12 AM
I cannot get used to those very "light for gauge" loads. Too many years of shooting "standard" loads leave me expecting some recoil from the shot. It's disconcerting, and distracting, to me when it's not there. I will shoot 1 oz. loads in a 12, but don't go below that unless I go down a gauge, or more.