Pad Type for a DHE

[Rob Roble]

Distinguished Fellow Aficionados,

I am freshening up a newly acquired 12 ga. DHE circa. 1911 (S/N 157,000 range).

Based on the gun's dimensions, I'd venture to say it was ordered as a target gun, which is why I got it. It has very little drop at heel, double ivory beads and a non-automatic safety.

It needs a new pad. I'm not wild about the Hawkins pad that's currently on it. I'm considering either a red Silvers (which I happen to have) or a No-Shok which I'd need to procure.

Any thoughts on which one would be the most appropriate?

The gun points and shoots great, and I intend to shoot the heck out it on the clays range.

Thank you.

[Steve Huffman]

Join the PGCA and order a letter it may tell you in the letter what pad it was ordered with and other interesting information.

[Randy G Roberts]

It could have been any type available at the time as the Brothers Parker would use any pad the customer requested. As suggested order a letter and maybe you'll be so fortunate as to have the letter include the pad type, if it had a pad that is. The SSBP would have been the normal butt treatment for this grade. Good luck.

[Brian Dudley]

You cannot go wrong with a silvers.

[Drew Hause]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qxQsLDgpKtKITSGCJZ9H348YOsQL5CeZjjqNnHshpKQ/edit

The pre-WWI pads were the Silvers, D-W, Funkes, Huntley Shock Absorber (Omaha) and “Perkins” Recoil Pads (both advertised starting in 1915), Tryon #6, and the American Silver pad (sometimes called Grieb; possibly by the Ajax-Grieb Rubber Co.)

The NOSHOC pads have a June 6, 1922 patent date but were not found in catalogs until the early 1930s.

Fred Gilbert c. 1904 with his Parker DH SN 103649; no dolls head, no ejectors, 32” barrels wearing a hand guard and 'recoil boot'

https://photos.smugmug.com/Shooters/Trapshooting/i-JktbqRV/0/D3bDrBdMwtwpvxK7qgSSv25Fn3mfFXnVV8tr5zv6p/L/G%2016%20Fred%20Gilbert-L.jpg (https://drewhause.smugmug.com/Shooters/Trapshooting/i-JktbqRV/A)

[Bill Murphy]

Bob, show us your PGCA letter, and we'll help you obtain the correct pad. I personally use the G&H repro Silver on a gun that didn't come with a pad from the factory.

[Rob Roble]

Thank you very much. Great point on the NOSHOK not being offered when the gun was built. Hadn't thought of that. The letter is ordered, we'll see if it lists the pad type. Much appreciated. Bob

[Dan Steingraber]

Thank you very much. Great point on the NOSHOK not being offered when the gun was built. Hadn't thought of that. The letter is ordered, we'll see if it lists the pad type. Much appreciated. Bob

I hope you joined PGCA first. It would have saved you money on the letter and allowed you access to the mebers only area of our site.
D grades are beautiful guns BTW.

[Rob Roble]

Thanks, I did in fact just rejoin the PGCA and apparently some information does exist on this particular gun. All the best, Bob.

[Dave Noreen]

Drew, the earliest ads I've seen for the D-W pad are from 1929 --

125021

and show a 1922 Patent date.

In 1911 a Silvers was about it. My 1912 SD&G catalog only shows the Silvers pad and my 1915 H & D Folsom catalog only has the Silvers and the Grieb. The Silvers in those days was curved and had a spur --

125027

There were several different rubber slip-on or leather lace-on pads, Akron being a popular brand.

[Drew Hause]

You are correct Dave. It was the Y.C. (Young & Cadwallader) pad.
1916 H.S.B, & Co. catalog

https://photos.smugmug.com/Vintage-Recoil-Pads/i-VzRc9KV/0/DWfPRzmfpHXcsVF58TLrv25wkhbSrhGQjzzp4KwvM/M/1916%20HSB%20Recoil%20Pads-M.png (https://drewhause.smugmug.com/Vintage-Recoil-Pads/i-VzRc9KV/A)

H.W. Cadwallader
https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/page-from-the-past-expert-trapshooters-of-illinois.946491/page-4#post-9288322

I did find the D-W in the October 1925 Outdoor Life

https://photos.smugmug.com/Vintage-Recoil-Pads/i-756vLd4/0/DpJSCWtG7hHVL9dkmxTpnCJt95VVqdmTL6RQ9NKDG/S/D-W%20Pad%20Outdoor%20Life%2010-1925-S.png (https://drewhause.smugmug.com/Vintage-Recoil-Pads/i-756vLd4/A)

I haven't been able to find who D & W were

[Bill Murphy]

The patent should tell us their names.

[Drew Hause]

E.E. Dewhurst of Elyria, Ohio (about an hour from Goodyear in Akron) patented a rubber recoil pad #1,414,116 April 25, 1922

[Bill Murphy]

Good work, Drew. My SB grade single barrel had a D-W pad on it when I bought it. It was beyond repair, but I still have it. I replaced it with a Griffin and Howe Silver pad.

[Drew Hause]

Orval Overall's Parker and D-W; 1932
https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/orval-overall/

https://photos.smugmug.com/Vintage-Recoil-Pads/i-xQwK8Jk/0/CgSSQSp6BZPtDzg4hSkR2z7qLZLRW4BtmZ8fdSpZ9/L/Orval%20Overall%201932%20-%20Copy-L.jpg (https://drewhause.smugmug.com/Vintage-Recoil-Pads/i-xQwK8Jk/A)