Spring 2024 magazine

[CraigThompson]

Pulled mine out the PO Box today ! Noticed I picture on page 40 of the 2023 raffle winner flanked by two sketchy types lols ! Liked the Magic Gun article on page 42 ! Love to see the little gun the writer described at Sanford this year :whistle: I’ll get it all read later tonight !!! Nicely done

[Brian Dudley]

I am still waiting on the winter issue.

[Dean Romig]

Great cover picture of our own ‘master of all trades’ and BOD member Mike Franzen.

How does he ever find the time for all the things he’s into???

Congrats Mike on your coveted Black Belt !!



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[Bill Murphy]

Mike, congratulations on your accomplishments and your lifestyle.

[JAMES HALL]

I am still waiting on the winter issue.

You have not gotten the one I sent either?

[Randy G Roberts]

I especially enjoyed Arts article about Allan Swanson. Very well done Art. Many thanks.
Congrats on the belt and the bird Mike. I'm a little surprised you used a Parker, I'll expect you to take the wary Tom hand to hand in the future :)

[Garry L Gordon]

Great cover picture of our own ‘master of all trades’ and BOD member Mike Franzen.

How does he ever find the time for all the things he’s into???

Congrats Mike on your coveted Black Belt !!



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Mike is amazing.

[Dave Noreen]

In today's post. Beat The Remington Society Journal this quarter.

[Mike Franzen]

Thank you Dean and all for the kind sentiments. I try to live my life to the fullest.

[CraigThompson]

Thank you Dean and all for the kind sentiments. I try to live my life to the fullest.

I cannot remmember did you kill a gobble gobble bird in MS when hunting Charlie’s place ?

[Chuck Bishop]

The magazine just keeps getting better and better!

[Ian Civco]

Why is it mailed in a transparent plastic wrapper? Not everyone is as pro 2A as we are. It’s best just not to advertise and MUST be mailed in an opaque wrapper, navy blue or black, or possibly green.

[Mike Koneski]

Why is it mailed in a transparent plastic wrapper? Not everyone is as pro 2A as we are. It’s best just not to advertise and MUST be mailed in an opaque wrapper, navy blue or black, or possibly green.

It feels good to piss off a leftist. If an anti doesn’t like what’s on the cover, said anti can call the male editor and he will tell the anti how little he cares about any snowflake feelings.

[CraigThompson]

In today's post. Beat The Remington Society Journal this quarter.

I think my membership in that one has finally lapsed . No matter they rarely had anything in their magazine that intrested me . They do a nice job just not much I’m into :whistle:

[Ian Civco]

It feels good to piss off a leftist. If an anti doesn’t like what’s on the cover, said anti can call the male editor and he will tell the anti how little he cares about any snowflake feelings.

It increases the chances that it gets discarded into the trash. It also advertises that a residence may contain firearms within.

[Daryl Corona]

It feels good to piss off a leftist. If an anti doesn’t like what’s on the cover, said anti can call the male editor and he will tell the anti how little he cares about any snowflake feelings.

I wouldn't want to piss off the female editor either. :nono:

[Dean Romig]

I’m kinda glad it comes in a transparent wrapper.
I’m proud of who I am and what my interests are and I’ll never try to hide that.





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[Mike Koneski]

I’m kinda glad it comes in a transparent wrapper.
I’m proud of who I am and what my interests are and I’ll never try to hide that.





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ANEN Dean! We have nothing to hide nor be ashamed of. We must not allow the wokeness of the left to change who we are. No compromise!

[Mike Koneski]

I wouldn't want to piss off the female editor either. :nono:

Oh yes! She can be vocal too but she’d use nicer words and be much less “aggressive” shall we say. :rotf::whistle::corn:

[Reggie Bishop]

My thanks to all who contributed to another great publication!

[Ian Civco]

I don’t know. It’s really no one’s business what I get in the mail and a magazine with firearms emblazoned on it isn’t really going to convince rabidly liberal postal workers that they are missing the boat and our cause is a worthy one.

Other collector’s associations mail their publications discretely and don’t even spell out the name of the organization and use abbreviations instead. For example, the Smith & Wesson Collector’s Association becomes “SWCA”.

[Daniel Carter]

I understand the reasons behind the desire to not advertise your interest in guns. The internet has changed everything in that our participation in these forums gives away our identities and a well versed person with bad intent can easily find you.
Theft is my biggest concern and my mailman sees the deer heads on the living room wall when he brings PP and knows how they got there. My guns are in 2 Mosler fire proof safes unless in use and other security precautions are taken
Everyone in town knows i shoot and hunt so the locals are aware. My concern is the pro and i have done all i can to defeat him therefore i do not worry about it.
Have a friend who turns his suv backend to the house so that no one can see him put his cased Browning in the back. I asked him if he was ashamed of what he did and he stopped.

[Craig Larter]

The PGCA is so fortunate to have so many dedicated members that freely contribute time and articles for the Parker Pages. Very nice edition!

[Mike Koneski]

With the latest statistic of over 60% of households in the USA owning at least one firearm, one should realize that the chances of entering a home with a firearm is greater than not should comfort firearm owners and warn off bad actors. It is what it is.

[Ian Civco]

I understand the reasons behind the desire to not advertise your interest in guns. The internet has changed everything in that our participation in these forums gives away our identities and a well versed person with bad intent can easily find you.
Theft is my biggest concern and my mailman sees the deer heads on the living room wall when he brings PP and knows how they got there. My guns are in 2 Mosler fire proof safes unless in use and other security precautions are taken
Everyone in town knows i shoot and hunt so the locals are aware. My concern is the pro and i have done all i can to defeat him therefore i do not worry about it.
Have a friend who turns his suv backend to the house so that no one can see him put his cased Browning in the back. I asked him if he was ashamed of what he did and he stopped.

Participation on this forum, particularly, gives away our identity. I brought that up awhile ago. Other forums identify you by your username. This one feels the need, for whatever bizarre reason, to identify you by name. Still don’t understand that.

It’s best to go about life discreetly.

[Mike Koneski]

Using an actual name helps get rid of trolls.

[Bill Murphy]

It will always be easy for bad guys to figure out your interest in guns. It is best to limit your connection with bad guys and educate your siblings to do the same. Backing your Suburban up to your door to unload guns doesn't solve the problem, but it may help.

[John Davis]

Just about everything I do, wear, buy and receive in the mail identifies me as a gun owner. Not sure that hiding my Parker Pages is going to help me much.

BTW, Great issue and thanks to all who contributed. I always look particularly forward to Parker Chronicles. The turkey talk had me laughing out loud.

[Wayne Owens]

Look at all the nearly daily NRA mail members receive. It is clearly, boldly marked and I would think that would give anyone the idea that firearms are in the home. Or what about the flyers of upcoming gun auctions? I receive many of those throughout the year.

[Mike Franzen]

I got my copy yesterday. The Paparazzi is so hard to avoid sometimes. But seriously I love the cover!

[edgarspencer]

Has anyone else noticed something odd about the gun shown in the Morphy auction ad on the back page. They state that it's a AAHE 28ga.

[Stan Hoover]

Thanks to everyone on another great magazine, it is great to be able to know some of the people who participated in these articles.

What a great gun to use for a turkey hunt there Mike!

[Mike Koneski]

I got my copy yesterday. The Paparazzi is so hard to avoid sometimes. But seriously I love the cover!

That’s why we wear transitions lenses!! The constant flashing can damage your vision. :rotf::shock::whistle:

[Greg Baehman]

Has anyone else noticed something odd about the gun shown in the Morphy auction ad on the back page. They state that it's a AAHE 28ga.
Single bead around bolsters?

[edgarspencer]

Single bead around bolsters?

No, single bead is correct. The stock is checkered as an AH or BH, but not AAH.

[MARK KIRCHER]

I note the Back cover listing a Morphy auction the first few days of May this year describing a small bore AAH.

I cannot seem to locate details on this auction or gun on Morphy site or anywhere else. Is this an accurate set of dates? Does anyone have link to this gun description?

Please post if so. TY.

Great job as always Mike and Sammy -

[Dean Romig]

No, single bead is correct. The stock is checkered as an AH or BH, but not AAH.

I strongly disagree with your statement Edgar - it has the ‘foliate flourish’ of the AAHE. The AH and BH were quite a lot more subdued. Some AAHE’s and A1S had an even longer one but I think it depends on who the checkerer was and possibly the period.





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[edgarspencer]

I strongly disagree with your statement Edgar - it has the ‘foliate flourish’ of the AAHE. The AH and BH were quite a lot more subdued. Some AAHE’s and A1S had an even longer one but I think it depends on who the checkerer was and possibly the period.





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Why am I not surprised?

I’ve never seen a double A without the enclosed checkering surrounding the fleur.
I wasn't saying anything about the "foliate flourish", back on the body of the stock, only the checkering at the head of the stock.

[CraigThompson]

I strongly disagree with your statement Edgar - it has the ‘foliate flourish’ of the AAHE. The AH and BH were quite a lot more subdued. Some AAHE’s and A1S had an even longer one but I think it depends on who the checkerer was and possibly the period.

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Well back in the 20’s when I was a young man and you were just a twinkle in papa’s eye ……….., uh oh wait that was another damn dream or was it a nightmare :rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf:

[Keith Sirmans]

Found it as my wife was throwing it away so I get to read this one woohoo! It had a turkey on the front and she thought it was NWTF stuff

[Dean Romig]

No, single bead is correct. The stock is checkered as an AH or BH, but not AAH.


Sorry Edgar - I must have misunderstood your meaning… however, I can’t be held to blame in this because you never made mention of the checkered cheek panels. :bigbye:





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[edgarspencer]

Sorry Edgar - I must have misunderstood your meaning… however, I can’t be held to blame in this because you never made mention of the checkered cheek panels. :bigbye:

I shouldn't have had to mention anything about the checkering within the cheeks, as they are the same on BH, AH and AAH. Aside from that which has nothing to do with what I was asking in my original post, the checkering treatment around the Fleur de lis is treated entirely differently on a AA, than a B or A.
I hope you didn't exhaust yourself, strongly objecting for nothing.

[Bill Murphy]

I don't understand ten percent of this argument, so I will bail out. I just realized that I have an AA somewhere, but I'm not going to drag it out to look.

[Dean Romig]

....the checkering treatment around the Fleur de lis is treated entirely differently on a AA, than a B or A.

Thank you Edgar for reinforcing the exact point that I had made.





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[Dean Romig]

I don't understand ten percent of this argument, so I will bail out...


Bill, I wasn't argueing at all. I simply stated that I disagreed with a statement someone had made.





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[Stan Hoover]

Don't screw it up Dean, I think Bill might be getting ready to share a picture:coffee:

[Dean Romig]

:rotf::biglaugh::rotf:





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[Jim Wescott]

Congratulations Mike on your black belt and find Texas Rio! Love the hat!!!

[edgarspencer]

Thank you Edgar for reinforcing the exact point that I had made.

Oh? And what was that? Do you agree the treatment of the checkering surrounding the fleu de lis on the gun shown (on the back page of the PP) is not consistent with an AAH?

[Mike Franzen]

Congratulations Mike on your black belt and find Texas Rio! Love the hat!!!

It’s an honor to wear that hat! You and Niles would have been proud of me working those birds.

[Randy G Roberts]

Oh? Do you agree the treatment of the checkering surrounding the fleu de lis on the gun shown (on the back page of the PP) is not consistent with an AAH?

Edgar the question was not posed to me directly but, yes I agree. We have seen at least one AH with the checkering around the fleur in the same fashion as an AAH but I do not ever recall seeing an AAH with checkering around the fleur, or lack of such as the one you have referenced. It is more consistent with an A or B as you previously noted. Might make for an interesting letter.

[edgarspencer]

The question was directed to anyone, so thank you for taking the time to let me know I wasn't imagining it. Since there were so few AAH guns made in 28ga., it makes one wonder if a letter would contain "make like......" or some such validation of it's origin. Without that, it could mean mistake, restock, upgrade, or several other possibilities. It would certainly seem, at least from the picture, that the gun is an AAH, and why the stock is anything else, adds to the mystique. Certainly would still be the crowning piece in anyone's collection.

[Mike Koneski]

Don't screw it up Dean, I think Bill might be getting ready to share a picture:coffee:

STOP THE PRESSES!!! :shock::corn:

To put it nicely, if Bill posts a pic I’ll be dipped in poop and rolled in peanut butter!!

[Bill Murphy]

We have seen a picture, or a link to a picture, of my gun in question. Good luck locating that picture.

[Andrew Sacco]

Two things I have to say.

First of all, Mike's belt is an EIGTH degree blackbelt, so he's had that thing a while. Congratulations Mike, that's an achievement few on planet Earth could accomplish.

Second, I am glad it comes in a clear wrapper. What are we going to do, keep "hiding" behind the fear of being persecuted or ridiculed? Trust me, Big Brother knows all about you anyways and where you are all the time. And what you own. I'm proud of what I support and not going to hide it.

In my office here in NYS I'm supposed to post a sign saying whether I allow or don't allow concealed carry. I'm guessing 95% of businesses do NOT post a sign. If I'm forced to, guess what? The ones who don't like that my patients carry can go elsewhere. And I will NOT support any local restaurant or business that does not allow CC. That's why I won't go to hockey games or baseball games here. I hate nothing more than a hypocrite.

[John Davis]

Anybody find the Easter egg?:cool:

[Bill Murphy]

Randy's post is a bit contradictory. "AH with checkering around the fleur like a AA" Then "Do not recall seeing a AA with checkering around the fleur." Maybe Randy will clarify.

[Randy G Roberts]

Randy's post is a bit contradictory. "AH with checkering around the fleur like a AA" Then "Do not recall seeing a AA with checkering around the fleur." Maybe Randy will clarify.

Note the top picture of an AAH as taken from the grades section and how the checkering outline wraps around the fleur, then note the bottom pic of an AH and how the checkering outline does "not" wrap around the fleur.

What I said was:
We have seen at least one AH with the checkering around the fleur in the same fashion as an AAH
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but I do not ever recall seeing an AAH with checkering around the fleur, or lack of such as the one you have referenced. It is more consistent with an A or B as you previously noted.

Maybe more simply stated I have seen an AH with the more elaborate pattern but never an AAH with the simpler pattern seen on A and B grades.

[Jim McKee]

Our Parker Pages is always a joy to find in my mailbox and very proud of the job so many of you do!

[Mike Koneski]

Anybody find the Easter egg?:cool:

You know I did! :cool::bigbye:

[edgarspencer]

Edgar the question was not posed to me directly but, yes I agree. We have seen at least one AH with the checkering around the fleur in the same fashion as an AAH but I do not ever recall seeing an AAH with checkering around the fleur, or lack of such as the one you have referenced. It is more consistent with an A or B as you previously noted. Might make for an interesting letter.

This BHE just turned up on GI, checkered like an AA.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/parker-shotguns/parker-bhe-grade-sxs-12ga-30-quot-barrels-choked-m-f-make-offer-.cfm?gun_id=102565449#md-7

[Mike Koneski]

When CSMC says “make offer”, the price is too high. SN looks to be Photoshopped out of the trigger guard tang. Maybe it’s just me, but my spider sense tingles when I read their ads.

[edgarspencer]

When CSMC says “make offer”, the price is too high. SN looks to be Photoshopped out of the trigger guard tang. Maybe it’s just me, but my spider sense tingles when I read their ads.

Ya gotta start somewhere.
While I was sitting on the couch talking to Tony, Lou came to him and asked about an email inquiry. The gun in question was marked $9995, and Tony said without hesitation "$8500". If you're not savvy enough to make an offer, you either didn't do your homework, or you don't know what something's worth.

[Randy G Roberts]

This BHE just turned up on GI, checkered like an AA.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/parker-shotguns/parker-bhe-grade-sxs-12ga-30-quot-barrels-choked-m-f-make-offer-.cfm?gun_id=102565449#md-7

Interesting Edgar. Pics are poor but from what I can see I don't like the way the cheek panels are cut in. Angle looks off for a Parker to me ????

[Reggie Bishop]

This BHE just turned up on GI, checkered like an AA.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/parker-shotguns/parker-bhe-grade-sxs-12ga-30-quot-barrels-choked-m-f-make-offer-.cfm?gun_id=102565449#md-7

I ordered a letter on this gun some time back. Gun was originally a pistol grip gun so it was restocked by someone along the way.

[Mike Koneski]

I understand your point Edgar. Problem is certain vendors of vintage doubles seem to have an abundance of “high grade” guns that fall into the serial number range that we have no records to prove they have upgraded or are original. I’ll let it go at that.

[edgarspencer]

I get that, Mike, but what I was addressing was your comment that if it said 'make an offer' your interpretation was the price was too high. If anything, I've always known Tony to be open to negotiation. I really haven't bought a lot from him; maybe 6 or 7 guns in all the years I've known him, but I don't think I ever paid what he had on it, and even felt I could have done better. Tony buys lots of guns. He has even bought guns from me when I was selling to buy from someone else. He reminds me of guns my dad or I have, or have had, that I don't remember. If he has "an abundance" of guns where records don't exist, I think its a stretch to suggest that he plans it that way.

[Dean Romig]

True Edgar… However, there are Parkers suspected of being upgrades who’s serial numbers fall within the range of thise contained within the pages of some of the missing books. I will refrain from naming names of those in who’s posession sone of the missing books might be found.





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[edgarspencer]

I will refrain from naming names of those in who’s posession sone of the missing books might be found..

That would be wise of you because it might be embarrassing.

[Kevin McCormack]

Ya gotta start somewhere.
While I was sitting on the couch talking to Tony, Lou came to him and asked about an email inquiry. The gun in question was marked $9995, and Tony said without hesitation "$8500". If you're not savvy enough to make an offer, you either didn't do your homework, or you don't know what something's worth.

Another tangent approach to advice on the "Thank me, Spank me" school of gun price negotiation! There are several masters of it on this and other BBSs. They know that we know that they know who they are.

Open your mouth and, as the PA Dutch say, "Spricht the Spacht!" At a firehouse gun show over the weekend, a timid soul walked in a new condition Winchester 1200 pump gun with 3 barrels, 1 deer slug with sights, 1 vent 26" IC, 1 30 Full vent.

He wanted to sell it and asked me if I thought $250 was too much for it with al 3 barrels and the case. I told him to let the "dealers" tell him what they would pay for it. About 12 minutes later he came by my table and said, "Wow, he musta really liked it; I got about 3X what I wanted for it!" Not a Parker, not a Purdey, but a great object lesson in gun trading.

[Dean Romig]

Kevin - My brother-in-law got a great deal on a VERY similar Winchester 12 with the same barrel combo, just without the vent rib, at Cabela’s in Scarborough ME 5 years ago for $300.





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