Guyette and Deeter Auction February 10, 2024

[Bill Murphy]

The catalog appeared on my email today. I read the catalog cover to cover. What's wrong with me? I already own a shotgun.

[Reggie Bishop]

I was looking for a 34" 20 gauge single barrel trap in the catalogue. Nothing there. :crying:

[John Albano]

Looks like lots of nice guns. Nice job Josh!

[Phil Yearout]

I just read through the past two issues again yesterday :rolleyes:!

[Bill Murphy]

Josh already has a date for the September auction.

[edgarspencer]

Josh already has a date for the September auction.

Does his wife know?

[Daryl Corona]

Does his wife know?

Always thinking out of the box aren't you?

[CraigThompson]

I saw three on there that are intresting of course one of them is outside of my price range .

[Josh Loewensteiner]

The catalog appeared on my email today. I read the catalog cover to cover. What's wrong with me? I already own a shotgun.

We always say if you know how many you have, you don’t have enough!!!

[Bill Murphy]

Josh, any idea when the hard copies of the February catalog will be mailed?

[Josh Loewensteiner]

The catalogs will start mailing early this week.

[Corey Barrette]

Just received my copy this morning.
Enjoyed the eye candy with my lunch at noon as I pored through the catalog and dog-eared a couple.
Thanks Josh.

[Russ Jackson]

Got mine in the morning mail !!! Thank You Josh !!!!:)

[Phil Yearout]

Got mine this AM. Beautiful production! Thanks Josh...

[John Dallas]

Haven't gotten mine yet. My mailman is a gun guy. I'm wondering...

[Rick Roemer]

Thank you for the catalog Josh. Very nice

[Dean Romig]

I received mine today and I'm pleasantly surprised to see so many really fine Parkers in it.

Thank You Josh!!





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[Wayne Owens]

The catalog made it to Arizona today. Another wonderful catalog listing many interesting items. That canoe is too cool! Thank you very much Josh.

[Bill Jolliff]

I got mine today. Fantastic production.

I see there are 4 Jim Sprankle decoys listed. I knew Jim when he lived in Conklin, NY and set up at the Clayton (NY) Decoy and Wildlife Art Show. I have 3 of his decoys - a Blue Wing Teal pair and a miniature Canvasback Drake that he gave me.

Thank you, Josh.

[Reggie Bishop]

Team Tennessee received a copy on Monday. Beautiful offerings! Thank you Josh!

[Bill Murphy]

I'm checking my mailperson for NRA and PGCA membership. Maybe he's a slow reader.

[edgarspencer]

Catalog #8 is one of the nicest lifters I have ever seen. I hated to finish the case and return the gun. The writeup says it comes with Parker tools, but doesn't show them, so I thought it might be of interest to show them. The case top is a beautiful piece of feather crotch walnut.

[John Albano]

My catalog made it to Idaho yesterday. Thanks josh!

[John Dallas]

Bill - Have you seen Sprankle's spectacular decoy display on Sanibel Island? Hope they weren't destroyed in the Hurricane. His generosity has raised lots of money for the Ding Darling National Wildlife Refuge

[keavin nelson]

My catalog arrived this morning, Thanks Josh!

[Garry L Gordon]

Missouri must be on the outs with the USPS. Nothing here yet.

(Edgar, the case is stunning, as is the gun.)

[Arthur Shaffer]

Catalog #8 is one of the nicest lifters I have ever seen. I hated to finish the case and return the gun. The writeup says it comes with Parker tools, but doesn't show them, so I thought it might be of interest to show them. The case top is a beautiful piece of feather crotch walnut.

I recieved my catalog today and skimmed through it at lunch.

I read the description today and ws surprised by one thing in the description. It states that the barrel flats are stamped with the grade and DD which means it has Parker made damascus barrels.

Somehow, I don't remember ever seeing this. I am well aware of the Parker made barrels and have a few of them. I have seen several (I own one) which have the Parker laminate barrels on D quality guns. There have been several discussions of the laminate barrels in the past couple of years, but I don't remember any mention that Parker made true Damascus pattern barrels in addition to the laminates. They were only made for 2-3 years. Did they actually make damascus pattern barrels in addition to the laminates, and were they marked DD, similar to the P stamp on the laminates?

[Bill Murphy]

Josh, got my catalog in MD today. Of course, I've already read it on the website. Thanks.

[Dean Romig]

No ArtS, they didn't.

The DD indicates Finest Damascus (which I believe is 5-iron crolle) but not all are stamped as such... most are though.





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[David Noble]

Received my catalog Monday the 22nd. Lots of great guns. I have interest in several! Thanks Josh!

[Arthur Shaffer]

No ArtS, they didn't.

The DD indicates Finest Damascus (which I believe is 5-iron crolle) but not all are stamped as such... most are though.





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Thanks Dean. Now that you responded, I recall having read the DD reference before.
I was confident you would know when I posted.

Hope you are doing well after your accident.

[James Rhodenizer]

Got mine, thanks Josh. Actually had a couple of left handed shotguns. I'll call that a good start.

[Ed Blake]

I used to own the gun described on page 26 of the catalog. Great gun but I just couldn’t shoot it well. According to the PGCA letter the original owner was a Mr H. E. Anderson of Lancaster, PA. My research revealed Mr Anderson was a registered shooter, who was associated with the pigeon circuit in Pennsylvania and Maryland. By the time he ordered #103439 he was in his mid-60s and was not that competitive, but the news reports from the time show him in attendance at various shoots. I inferred from this that he was a shoot organizer or sponsor of sorts. The load he requested Parker tune the gun for was1 1/4 oz of #7s over 48 grains of Shultz powder, which coincidently is similar to a load prescribed for a Cashmore pigeon gun I own. Anyway,I hope whomever buys this gun enjoys it and shoots it better than I did.

[Mike Koneski]

Mine also arrived on Monday.

[Stan Hoover]

I used to own the gun described on page 26 of the catalog. Great gun but I just couldn’t shoot it well. According to the PGCA letter the original owner was a Mr H. E. Anderson of Lancaster, PA. My research revealed Mr Anderson was a registered shooter, who was associated with the pigeon circuit in Pennsylvania and Maryland. By the time he ordered #103439 he was in his mid-60s and was not that competitive, but the news reports from the time show him in attendance at various shoots. I inferred from this that he was a shoot organizer or sponsor of sorts. The load he requested Parker tune the gun for was1 1/4 oz of #7s over 48 grains of Shultz powder, which coincidently is similar to a load prescribed for a Cashmore pigeon gun I own. Anyway,I hope whomever buys this gun enjoys it and shoots it better than I did.

Hello Ed,
I also noticed that gun being ordered by H. E. Anderson in Lancaster, Pa. That is very close to where I was born and still live. I did a quick google search of that name and came up empty.
Thanks for sharing that info.
Stan

[Phillip Carr]

Thank you Josh for the catalog. This is no small expense.
I have both sold and purchased through this auction and have been very happy with the results.

[CraigThompson]

I used to own the gun described on page 26 of the catalog. Great gun but I just couldn’t shoot it well. According to the PGCA letter the original owner was a Mr H. E. Anderson of Lancaster, PA. My research revealed Mr Anderson was a registered shooter, who was associated with the pigeon circuit in Pennsylvania and Maryland. By the time he ordered #103439 he was in his mid-60s and was not that competitive, but the news reports from the time show him in attendance at various shoots. I inferred from this that he was a shoot organizer or sponsor of sorts. The load he requested Parker tune the gun for was1 1/4 oz of #7s over 48 grains of Shultz powder, which coincidently is similar to a load prescribed for a Cashmore pigeon gun I own. Anyway,I hope whomever buys this gun enjoys it and shoots it better than I did.

Ed is that the gun I purchased from you ?

[Ed Blake]

Yes. That’s the one.

[Garry L Gordon]

No catalog in North Missouri yet!

[CraigThompson]

No catalog in North Missouri yet!

I don’t have mine in central VA either . BUT I’ve not been to the post office since Friday the 19th :whistle:

[Ed Blake]

Hello Ed,
I also noticed that gun being ordered by H. E. Anderson in Lancaster, Pa. That is very close to where I was born and still live. I did a quick google search of that name and came up empty.
Thanks for sharing that info.
Stan

Stan. My source was the archive Doc Drew links to frequently. I did not use Google. I’ll look for the references in my files and PM you.

[james orr]

Didn't receive mine in New Jersey yet.
James Orr

[CraigThompson]

Got it today not sure how long it’s been there as my PO Box was crammed full , I’d not checked the mail in a week :whistle:

[Garry L Gordon]

Finally!! Arrived yesterday afternoon. Thoroughly thumbed and Post-It notes attached.

Thanks, Josh!!

[Craig Larter]

I have four, guns consigned to the auction, bid high and bid often LOL!!!

[Bill Murphy]

I don't think that identifying guns that you have in the auction is against the rules.

[John Dallas]

Not here in Mich yet. Darn!

[Ken Hill]

I’m beginning to wonder if G&D put me on the blacklist… nothing here yet.

Ken

[Frank Srebro]

I haven't received mine here in PA as of today.

[CraigThompson]

It’s my intention to go view the guns Thursday before the auction first thing that day , then after eat lunch and shoot a round at Pintail Point .

[Josh Loewensteiner]

Catalogs were sent to anyone who registered to bid or bid in our first two sales. If, for some reason we missed you on this go around, please email guns@guyetteanddeeter.com and we will make sure you receive one.

[Mike Koneski]

There’s a nice looking .410 hammer gun listed that was used to win the .410 Hammer Gun event here at our July SxS shoot a few years ago. It already has the ability to break targets. Just sayin’.

[J. Scott Hanes]

I had not replied before, but I received my copy last week. Thank you!!

[Bill Murphy]

Mike, if I sell you my hammerless gun that won the .410 Overall event several years ago, you will be well equipped to take home some bling. No, it is not in Josh's auction.

[Ken Hill]

Josh,

Thanks, I received my copy today!

Ken

[Alfred Greeson]

Great distribution Josh and very much appreciated. Thank you for a great publication which will draw attention and business, well deserved for a long time. It has quickly become something to look forward to in this day and time. Thank you.

[Bruce Hering]

Thanks Josh. Good looking stuff.

[CraigThompson]

Made the trip to G&D yesterday for a little preview , lunch and then to Pintail Point . Daryl Corona , Chuckles Bishop , Daniel Bawell , Stan Hoover , Craig Jacobs and myself had a bit of fun shooting the course .

[Reggie Bishop]

What were you guys shooting and who was Top Gun?

[Daryl Corona]

I'll say we did. Great time and not a place for the thin skinned. It was nice meeting Mr. Jacob and thanks Craig for putting this all together. Need to do this on a regular basis.

[Daryl Corona]

What were you guys shooting and who was Top Gun?

We all shot well and really weren't focusing on scores. Goal....Have fun and give Chuck a lot of grief.:)

[CraigThompson]

What were you guys shooting and who was Top Gun?

I shot hammer 10’s , Craig J. and Stan shot 16’s , Daniel I think was high gun and was shooting a 12 NID , Daryl shot a couple 20’s and Chuckles shot a K-80 12 and a K-20 20 .

[Bill Murphy]

Take those K guns away from Chuck and lock them in his car.

[Daryl Corona]

Take those K guns away from Chuck and lock them in his car.

We tried but he is slick. Rumor has it he will be doing letters in Ottsville soon.

[Mike Koneski]

We all shot well and really weren't focusing on scores. Goal....Have fun and give Chuck a lot of grief.:)

Liar liar pants on fire!! It always about score!! Even w/o a scoresheet we know exactly what we shot!! :eek::corn:

[Mike Koneski]

Mike, if I sell you my hammerless gun that won the .410 Overall event several years ago, you will be well equipped to take home some bling. No, it is not in Josh's auction.

For the right price that deal can be made. I have a .410 hammer, so a Parker hammerless will fill the void. The .410 HL I have is a Western Field Long Range (Ithaca) with 28" bbls F/F.

[Daryl Corona]

Liar liar pants on fire!! It always about score!! Even w/o a scoresheet we know exactly what we shot!! :eek::corn:

Not really Big Guy. Wanted to shoot my 32" 20 which has never been my go to gun when I'm serious about score. Just wanted to make sure I want to move it down the road.

If I wanted to really wanted to break a good score I would have shot my 20 ga. Fox. That 30" SW is just one of those guns that breaks targets for me even when I shouldn't have broken it.:)

[Reggie Bishop]

Not really Big Guy. Wanted to shoot my 32" 20 which has never been my go to gun when I'm serious about score. Just wanted to make sure I want to move it down the road.

If I wanted to really wanted to break a good score I would have shot my 20 ga. Fox. That 30" SW is just one of those guns that breaks targets for me even when I shouldn't have broken it.:)


Did you say 32" 20?? Inquiring minds would want to know................

[Daryl Corona]

Did you say 32" 20?? Inquiring minds would want to know................

Yep. DHE, straight grip.

[Bill Murphy]

Tell us about that gun so we can have a bidding war. I offered a 28" .410 Skeeter to Stan Hillis, but he is holding out for a 30" one. Good luck with that. Romig and I owned the only 30" .410 Skeeters I've seen in decades.































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[allen newell]

is the gent in the chair asleep?

[CraigThompson]

is the gent in the chair asleep?

Nope just grumbling ! No he was the “official scorekeeper” !

[Daryl Corona]

is the gent in the chair asleep?

That was me Allen. Asleep?? Ha! just trying to keep up with all the zeros on the course, mine included.:) I was first shooter so I take the scorecard and clicker and watch intently so as to not miss Craig getting hammered with his 10ga.

[CraigThompson]

I was first shooter so I take the scorecard and clicker and watch intently so as to not miss Craig getting hammered with his 10ga.

My shoulder wasn’t handling the recoil the best yesterday and it’s still tight/sore today . Hopefully there’s a boxbird thing the 17th or 18th :bowdown: Then I can get pounded forty times by pigeon loads :rotf: And that would be five or six days before leaving for the dove thing :rolleyes::cool:

[CraigThompson]

Auction results final prices include the premiums .

[Bob Dombeck]

Auction results final prices include the premiums .

I assume you have to be a registered bidder to see the selling prices?
Thank you.

[Reggie Bishop]

Not a hammer person, did that lifter not bring a big price?

[CraigThompson]

Not a hammer person, did that lifter not bring a big price?

24k I’d not call it cheap .

[CraigThompson]

I assume you have to be a registered bidder to see the selling prices?
Thank you.

I guess so I was logged in to bid in their in house thing not Invaluable or Auctionzip or some such .

[Stan Hoover]

Not a hammer person, did that lifter not bring a big price?

It isn’t really a gun unless it is a hammer gun with composite barrels:)

I admit, I’m biased

[edgarspencer]

Not a hammer person, did that lifter not bring a big price?

The case helped it along:rotf::rotf:

[Craig Larter]

My four consignments sold for market or market plus when you include the buyer fee. One under performed my expectations one over performed. So bottom line I was happy and it's so easy.

[Randy G Roberts]

Not a hammer person, did that lifter not bring a big price?

Yes,it did IMO. I know the buyer and he was pretty much going to own it. He had never owned a high grade lifter and wanted this one as it struck his fancy. It went to a good home. Of course the fella pushing him along in the bidding process would have given it a good home as well, it was not me :)

[Randy G Roberts]

The case helped it along:rotf::rotf:

Said in jest but an accurate statement indeed Edgar.

[Reggie Bishop]

The seller of lot 13 must be pleased as well.

[CraigThompson]

I thought the EH 8 was quite reasonable . And to be honest I thought the DHE 28 skeet was going to bring more but what do I know :whistle:

[Mike Koneski]

My shoulder wasn’t handling the recoil the best yesterday and it’s still tight/sore today . :rolleyes::cool:

SALLY!!!! Sore shoulder? You're getting OLD!!

[Dan Steingraber]

I thought the EH 8 was quite reasonable . And to be honest I thought the DHE 28 skeet was going to bring more but what do I know :whistle:

I wish I would have bought the EH 8.

[Chris Travinski]

I wish I followed through on the straight grip BHE. It was very reasonable in my opinion, but who knows where it would have ended up had we kept going. There was another gun I wanted later in the auction that held me up.

[CraigThompson]

SALLY!!!! Sore shoulder? You're getting OLD!!

It’s pretty much improper gun mounting from June of last year . And I keep reagravating it . Got in the ring last Saturday and forty rounds of factory pigeon loads didn’t help matters any :nono: And it appears I’ll be doing forty pigeon loads this weekend as well .

[CraigThompson]

I wish I would have bought the EH 8.

The last gun in the auction was a Joseph Lang 10 bore hammer gun with a Jones underlever that was fully rifled . I had thought on that one and probably should have hit the button it went for $3600 all in I think .

[Mike Koneski]

It’s pretty much improper gun mounting from June of last year . And I keep reagravating it . Got in the ring last Saturday and forty rounds of factory pigeon loads didn’t help matters any :nono: And it appears I’ll be doing forty pigeon loads this weekend as well .

You've been shooting for how many years and still have bad gun mounts??? Come on up after March 1 and I'll give you some lessons!! :rotf::rotf::rotf:

[Mike Koneski]

The last gun in the auction was a Joseph Lang 10 bore hammer gun with a Jones underlever that was fully rifled . I had thought on that one and probably should have hit the button it went for $3600 all in I think .

That was right up your alley, 10g slugger! :cool:

[Garry L Gordon]

Did anyone see any gems that sold well for the buyer?

[CraigThompson]

Did anyone see any gems that sold well for the buyer?

There were two Model 21’s that hammered at big money one was 60k and the other was 80k . I’m not aficionado of 21’s to know if they were good buys or not but I thought they were big money . A Remington Model 11-E brought what I thought a real good price for the seller .

[CraigThompson]

You've been shooting for how many years and still have bad gun mounts??? Come on up after March 1 and I'll give you some lessons!! :rotf::rotf::rotf:

I dunno why but last spring I started off mounting the gun not in the pocket but out on the bicep and didn’t really notice it until I did Allgood’s 16 gauge shoot with the VHE 16 skeet with the checkered butt . At the end of the day I had two big knots one on the bicep and the other right on the corner of the shoulder . And all summer and into the fall I’d reagrivate and reagrivate . I could have a bit of a rotator tear as well . But it is what it is and I’ll endure it this year . A good portion of what I like shooting don’t have pads or have thin pads , so each time I touch off whatever it may be I’m getting it all . I’m planning on shooting two or maybe four of the 10 gauge events in Sanford but I may go with 1 or 1 1/8 ounce loads .

[CraigThompson]

That was right up your alley, 10g slugger! :cool:

Yeah after viewing the gun Thursday and getting a rough measurement of bore size I was perusing a couple places to have a mold cut for the gun .

[Victor Wasylyna]

The seller of lot 13 must be pleased as well.

Lot 13 was a beauty. Straight grip with 14.5 LOP, killer wood, and 30 inch barrels.

I tried, but someone else valued the hang tags and old/original case much more than I did.

-Victor

[Arthur Shaffer]

I watched almost all the auction and bid on a bunch of guns. I thought it started lower than I expected but then took off at a good clip. A lot of the guns I wanted to bid on jumped out so fast I couldn't get in. The hammer Parkers all did much stronger than I expected. I wanted to buy the .410 and 20 High Grade Browning M12's and went hard after the 410 but I dropped out.(I have a mint in the box 28 and it is one of the best shooting shotguns I ever used). The two I wanted went for almost twice I have ever seen sell and I have kept an eye on that market for a while. I wanted on of the S3EL Berettas because of the game gun weight but I bid until my price was right at normal market without the buyer premium. The other 3, which I didn't think were as desireable, all went for near the same money. I ended up buying two of the oddest guns in the auction. One was the 24 gauge Rizzini. Paid way way too much but I have wanted a 24 for the oddity and it is the only one I have had a chance on for several years. The other was the no-name hammer gun with the US Flag damascus. Probably too much but cheap and it had some points that made me think it may be a reasonable gun by someone. Also, never had a barrel in that pattern and I have never seen many of them. I had thought about trying to buy the last gun, but didn't bid because there was nothing to indicate whether it was actually rifled. I was afraid to bid without knowing and had neglected to try and find out before the start. (I am sitting here goinf through my first bout of covid so have been busy the last few days.) I would likely have been in at the hammer price. The one I kicked myself about was the 8 ga EH.I tried to make three bids on it at the start and all were over me before my online bids registered. I stopped and was looking at something else. I thought that it went at a great price considering what I have seen over the last couple of years. Altogethwer a good auction and it made me feel good about some of the guns I have picked up over the last few years. I think hammer guns of all kinds are really coming up to the market recently.

[Ian Civco]

What did y’all think of this lot? I bid on it but was outbid.

https://bid.guyetteanddeeter.com/lots/view/5-10Y02R/gorgeous-high-original-condition-parker-dh-16-gauge

[Reggie Bishop]

What did y’all think of this lot? I bid on it but was outbid.

https://bid.guyetteanddeeter.com/lots/view/5-10Y02R/gorgeous-high-original-condition-parker-dh-16-gauge

I think if you wanted a nice Grade 3 16 you should have kept bidding !

[Dean Weber]

What did y’all think of this lot? I bid on it but was outbid.

https://bid.guyetteanddeeter.com/lots/view/5-10Y02R/gorgeous-high-original-condition-parker-dh-16-gauge

I did not see the gun in question in my hands, but the pictures suggest it is a significantly better specimen than most which are currently for sale on the various selling sites. This considers leaving feature preferences aside.

[Garry L Gordon]

If I didn't have one like this, and I "needed" one, I'd have paid what the winning bidder did (and no doubt been outbid).

I sure like that the BP is posted as you bid, and after the sale.

All I can say is that after this sale I am still married...barely.:rotf:

[Mike Koneski]

What did y’all think of this lot? I bid on it but was outbid.

https://bid.guyetteanddeeter.com/lots/view/5-10Y02R/gorgeous-high-original-condition-parker-dh-16-gauge

Beauty of a gun. Not enthralled with 2 1/2" chambers though. If that was my purchase they'd become 2 3/4" chambers in a hurry.

[CraigThompson]

Beauty of a gun. Not enthralled with 2 1/2" chambers though. If that was my purchase they'd become 2 3/4" chambers in a hurry.

I’d just shoot 2 3/4 in the darn thing if the gun closed easily .

[Dean Weber]

If I didn't have one like this, and I "needed" one, I'd have paid what the winning bidder did (and no doubt been outbid).

I sure like that the BP is posted as you bid, and after the sale.

All I can say is that after this sale I am still married...barely.:rotf:

Garry,
Probably deserves a thread of its own, but it would interesting to survey the various responses to our spouses “after the sale”. My wife asked what I spent rather than if I was fortunate. My response was oddly muddled and vague!

[Bill Murphy]

The EH 8 gauge was a strange result for a great gun. I guess I'll donate all of my eights to the Salvation Army and take a tax deduction. The consignor took a serious bath on that one.

[Ian Civco]

The EH 8 gauge was a strange result for a great gun. I guess I'll donate all of my eights to the Salvation Army and take a tax deduction. The consignor took a serious bath on that one.

How do you come to that conclusion? It sold for $5700 which means that it hammered at $4750, only one bid off of $5000, which was the low end of the pre auction estimate. It opened at $2500. It could certainly have sold for that price or one or two bids higher. Now that’s a bath!

https://bid.guyetteanddeeter.com/lots/view/5-10Y039/very-rare-eh-garde-8-gauge-parker-brothers-shotgun

[edgarspencer]

Garry,
Probably deserves a thread of its own, but it would interesting to survey the various responses to our spouses “after the sale”. My wife asked what I spent rather than if I was fortunate. My response was oddly muddled and vague!

A thread such as that would certainly have it's share of pictures. My wife has perfected a 'look' which conveys more than words could.

[Bill Jolliff]

How do you come to that conclusion? It sold for $5700 which means that it hammered at $4750, only one bid off of $5000, which was the low end of the pre auction estimate. It opened at $2500. It could certainly have sold for that price or one or two bids higher. Now that’s a bath!

https://bid.guyetteanddeeter.com/lots/view/5-10Y039/very-rare-eh-garde-8-gauge-parker-brothers-shotgun

Ian,

So, the SOLD price includes Buyer's Premium?

Just curious because I wanted to know about four Jim Sprankle decoys: #252, 253, 254 and 255. I have 3 of his decoys.

Thanks Ian.

[Ian Civco]

Ian,

So, the SOLD price includes Buyer's Premium?

Just curious because I wanted to know about four Jim Sprankle decoys: #252, 253, 254 and 255. I have 3 of his decoys.

Thanks Ian.

Yes. For example, there is no $5700 bid increment, only $5500 and then $6000, so you know that includes the buyer’s premium.

[Bill Murphy]

The Lovely Linda doesn't give me any grief about buying another gun, even though I'm skirting eighty. I have no idea how I'm going to sell all of this stuff, but apparently she has it all figured out.

[Dean Romig]

Right Bill, Linda has my number.






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[Daryl Corona]

A K-80 & a K-20, Were they some kind of experimental Parker's that
Chuck has kept hidden away?

Harry

They were made by Wilbur Parker's 3rd cousin Carl and were discovered in a barn near Chuck's house. He shoots them very well.