Parker “P” Grade Shotgun

[David Chambrelli]

Hi I am a new member and I am NEW to collecting and learning about Parker’s. I have a P grade with some ornate engravings and a Damascus barrel. Did the P grades have much engravings generally speaking? I checked the water table it’s marked with a “P”. Thank you !

[Jim DiSpagno]

Pictures would help as P grades had minimal engraving

[J. Scott Hanes]

"A" barrel? or Barrels?

[Dean Romig]

Is it a hammer gun or hammerless?

Does it say Damascus Steel on the top rib?

The “P” or Grade 1 in either configuration would normally have had either Twist or Laminated Steel.



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[edgarspencer]

Is it a hammer gun or hammerless?

Does it say Damascus Steel on the top rib?

The “P” or Grade 1 in either configuration would normally have had either Twist or Laminated Steel.

Your post is a little confusing. A 'P' grade is a Grade one, but the inverse isn't necessarily so. I have never seen a grade 1 hammer gun with a P on the watertable, nor have I seen a P grade with anything but 'Twist' or 'Parker Steel' barrels.

[Dean Romig]

When I get home from deer camp I will post pics of both hammerless and hammer Grade 1 guns with Laminated Steel barrels.





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[Jim DiSpagno]

Edgar, a mutual friend acquired a20 ga. Hammergun late production that had a P on the water table

[edgarspencer]

It won't be the last time I was wrong, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't the first either.

edit: TPS has an asterisk under 'laminated' to indicate there were, in fact, 20.

[Dean Romig]

Edgar, are you looking in the Grades section for both hammerless and hammer guns?





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[edgarspencer]

Edgar, are you looking in the Grades section for both hammerless and hammer guns?

Yes. Under Hammerless, there is an asterisk in the Laminated column. The foornote says they are listed as PT but the stock books show 20 of the to have Laminated steel barrels.

[Dean Romig]

Ok but several Grade 1 hammer guns were made with Laminated Steel barrels and I have owned three of them in 16 gauge on the 0-frame and still have one.





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[edgarspencer]

Ok but several Grade 1 hammer guns were made with Laminated Steel barrels and I have owned three of them in 16 gauge on the 0-frame and still have one.

Yes, I agree, but that wasn't what I was (incorrectly) questioning. My question related to Lam barrels on HammerLESS guns, which I now know, existed.

[Dean Romig]

This one belongs to a friend in VT.

I sent the barrels to Brad Bachelder for him and they came out beautifully.

There are a couple of anomallys - the legend on the rib says Damascus and the stamp on the right barrel flat where the steel type is normally stamped... is stamped with a T for Twist Steel.


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[David Chambrelli]

I am trying to figure out how to upload the Parker P grade engravings will do asap. It’s a Damascus barrel and it’s hammer less.

[Dean Romig]

From page 268 of TPS at the end of the Grade 1 section.


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[edgarspencer]

There are a couple of anomallys - the legend on the rib says Damascus and the stamp on the right barrel flat where the steel type is normally stamped... is stamped with a T for Twist Steel..

A couple?
I came home with a puppy that smelled like a skunk. Turned out, it was a fox.

[Bill Murphy]

I have a grade 1 lifter with a P on the water table. Scarce, but they exist.

[GunnerGrilli]

Gentlemen, the "suspense" is killing me.


As we are in the "Single Barrel Trap" forum. Are we talking about a "barrel", or "barrels"......


Thanks.............:corn:




Bobby

[Dean Romig]

Weird isn't it Bobby, how we get distracted and off on other tangents?

But, looking back, nothing on this particular thread was about SBT guns.:rotf:

Guilty as charged... :bigbye:





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[Bill Murphy]

I also own a PH 16 gauge hammerless with Laminated Steel barrels, or is it a 20? Hold on.

[Dean Romig]

......we're waiting Bill....





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[Bill Murphy]

My PH hammerless Laminated gun is a 20.

[Dean Romig]

I would love to see that desirable little Parker!





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[John Davis]

I want to see the SP with a Damascus steel barrel. :rolleyes:

[Mike Koneski]

Gentlemen, the "suspense" is killing me.


As we are in the "Single Barrel Trap" forum. Are we talking about a "barrel", or "barrels"......


Thanks.............:corn:




Bobby

I was confused too! SBT forum and there was talk of hammer or hammerless. Knew Parker didn't make SBT hammer guns. I started wondering who/what/where/when someone ordered a SBT in an external hammer configuration? Mein kupf schmartzen! :shock:

[Mike Koneski]

My PH hammerless Laminated gun is a 20.

You need to post pics of that P grade 20!! :corn:

[John Davis]

I was confused too! SBT forum and there was talk of hammer or hammerless. Knew Parker didn't make SBT hammer guns. I started wondering who/what/where/when someone ordered a SBT in an external hammer configuration? Mein kupf schmartzen! :shock:

Not a Parker but here you go. Iver Johnson Special Trap.

[Mike Koneski]

Not a Parker but here you go. Iver Johnson Special Trap.

John, I’ll agree it has an external hammer, but it’s not on a side-plate. A Winchester 1897 has an external hammer too. :cool: