Insurance value

[david ross]

Hi all.:)
Can any member help i am looking for a insurance figure on my vhe 12 bore
1/2 size frame gun . This gun has been restored but still has all it's orignal
specifications i have a letter for this gun No 240830. I can not get a true
insurance value in the UK as no one seems to know to much about
Parker Guns.
Thanks Dave:bigbye:

[Dean Romig]

I believe somewhere in the $5,000 - $6,000 range is about right for an insurance value.

Others may have different opinions...

[david ross]

Hi Dean.
Do you think the value of a 1/2 frame vhe would be more than a 1 or 2 size frame gun
of the same condition . And doe's the rarety of a 1/2 size frame make it more desireabl
5000 to 6000 looks good to me as that is more than i paid for it. I have seen lot's of
Parkers for sale but no 1/2 size one's so doe's less mean more ?
All the best Dave

[charlie cleveland]

a half frame in the same condition as other frame sizes as across the board will bring more usally..sometimes things that are worth more bring less but rarely...a half frame gun is more desirable because less of them were made than other frames so less usally equals more.... charlie

[George Lander]

David: Dean and Charlie are right on the money. I have bought several Parkers in England and they were all at a much lower price than in the U.S. I believe William Wellington Greener commented that a Parker "Was an adequate gun for farmer's use".

Best Regards, George

[Dean Romig]

Your question as to value was posed as "insurance value" which shouldn't be mistaken to be the same as 'sale value' or 'auction value'. These are generally three distinct value estimates and depending on existing conditions at the time of loss, sale, or auction the values are often considerably different from one another.

The 1/2-Frame is somewhat more desirable right now but even that distinction seems to be diminishing recently.

[Bill Murphy]

In the UK, $350, in the USA, $4500. You do the currency conversion. If you can get it here, you will make money.

[George Lander]

Several years ago I bought a Parker 20 bore DHE, 30 inch barrels with a straight grip from Holt's. The estimate was, I believe, 400-600 Great Britain Pounds. I had authorized my gunsmith over there to go as high as necessary & buy the gun. It went for a good deal more than the estimate but less than half of what it's value was stateside.

Best Regards, George

[Dean Romig]

I believe William Wellington Greener commented that a Parker "Was an adequate gun for farmer's use".

Best Regards, George

I suspect that Mr. W. W. Greener had probably seen and gave a cursive examination of a few Trojans.

[George Lander]

Dean: In fairness to Mr. Greener I believe that he meant that as a compliment. He did not comment at all on other American doubles of his time. Typical Limey snobbery IMHO.

Best Regards, George

[Bill Murphy]

Actually, Greener made many grades of shotgun that were at the farmers' end of the scale on his price list that we pay good money for today. Greener, having a product to sell, could not be too complimentary of his competitors' wares.

[david ross]

Dean: In fairness to Mr. Greener I believe that he meant that as a compliment. He did not comment at all on other American doubles of his time. Typical Limey snobbery IMHO.

Best Regards, George

:) Hii All
Thanks for all your replys you were all a great help as regards insurance
value ect' but the old parkers not for sale.

PS not all us brits are snobbs i do talk to you colonials:whistle:
All the Best Dave:bigbye:

[Pete Lester]

Guns aside for a moment, there is no equivalent in the US to an English pub, especially a pub in the countryside.

"Americans and British are one people separated only by a common language." Winston Churchill

[Dean Romig]

There is no equivalent in the US to an English pub, especially a pub in the countryside.




Please excuse Pete... He don't get out much anymore.

[Pete Lester]

I've gotten out plenty Dean. Their warm beer is an aquired taste, their food rather bland. However you will never be made to feel more at home when away from home as a yank in an English pub. The one's in the country are community watering holes where neighbors come together to talk about life and their own lives. Some with horses tied up out front, and many with dogs laying at the owners feet. They are wonderful places filled with fine people.

[Dean Romig]

They are wonderful places filled with fine people.

I don't doubt that for a second Pete.

I do, however, know of a couple of places similar to your description, with an American flavor, off the beaten path so to speak. Closer to urban settings the best we can seem to do is the "Sports Bar" where can be found no fewer than a dozen TV's each tuned in to a different game.... not much endearing about that :nono:

[david ross]

Hi Pete.
Thanks for your kind words about our pubs and the British people there has allways been
a strong bond between our two nations and long may it continue.
All the best Dave.