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John Truitt
04-09-2011, 07:15 PM
So it seems every year about three weeks before the Southern my planned shooting iron of choice developes a mechanical issue.
This year, just as in the past two, it is a broken spring.

I do not know what to offically call this piece but it is part of the early single trigger mechanism. It is a very thin flat spring, about 2 thous. thick, and is shaped like a key hole to attach to a screw and a vertical piece pushes against the detent. It functions to put pressure on the rebound block/ counter weight to help it set.

I will call the usuall suspects, Delgrego, Turnbull, Kearcher, etc but any help would be greatly appreciated. I can do this work my self in about 20 minutes if I get the part.
Maybe someone has a diagram that shows this spring/ names it/ to help identify it.

Thanks,

John

Robin Lewis
04-09-2011, 08:42 PM
I'm not a gunsmith and don't work on my own guns but I can search the internet, is it anything like this?

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/2095525.pdf

John Truitt
04-09-2011, 09:25 PM
No Sir. but thank you.

Dixie Gun Works and Numerick do not have any.

Hopefully Delgrego, Turnbull, etc will have a lead.

John Truitt
04-09-2011, 10:17 PM
www.google.com/patents/about?id=2WoTAAAAEBAJ&dq=patent:1,219,964

Found this link to patent# 1,219,964 which is the Lefler SST that Parker used. Its the early one dated Mar 1917. Same as what is stamped in the gun.
Slightly different looking in the gun than the illistrations. I guess Parker made some modifications after they purchased this patent.
Looks like piece/ part #38 the leaf spring that acts upon the detent is the one I am looking for.

John Truitt
04-09-2011, 10:37 PM
the leaf spring (part #38) is about 10mm in length and has a round top with a hole in it to allow is to be secured with a screw. The leaf spring appears to have been made very hard (hardened) and has two very critical bends in it.

This came out of #213xxx but my back up to it #211xxx has the early single trigger in it as well but with a different spring design to achieve the same effect.
Only 2000 #s difference but with two different early trigger designs. Must have been alot of design modifications going on to get it right until they decided to go with the two screw version that JP Hayes designed.

Daryl Corona
04-09-2011, 11:44 PM
John,
You might want to try Dewey Vicknair at Vicknair Restorations. 717.626.4226. Good luck.
Daryl

David Long
04-10-2011, 01:25 AM
Buy A 21 winchester

Tom Brown
04-10-2011, 06:57 AM
Dewey Vicknair can probably fabricate what you need. T.

Dean Romig
04-10-2011, 07:26 AM
Buy A 21 winchester


Blasphemer... :eek:

John Truitt
04-10-2011, 08:36 AM
Thanks Daryl and Tom,
I did not even think about Dewey.
Great idea.

Hope all is well and hope to see you guys at the Southern.
John

John Truitt
04-10-2011, 08:46 AM
David Long,

No thank you!
I'll stick to my Parkers.

Ed Blake
04-10-2011, 09:23 AM
John - I'll bet Bill Apperson could make one.

Mark Conrad
04-10-2011, 09:26 AM
Buy A 21 winchester

While the 21 has a good ejector system, the trigger and the forend barrel lug have issues. Just ask Buddy Marson. I could buy a nice Trojan for all the postage Buddy has in shipping costs to repair Model 21's. . Maybe even a VHE.

Mark

John Truitt
04-10-2011, 10:31 AM
Ed,

I spoke to Bill last week. He is completely out of the gun buisness.
Looks like our go to repair guy is no longer available.

Ed Blake
04-10-2011, 01:49 PM
John - Call me.

calvin humburg
04-10-2011, 02:29 PM
A 21 winchester I got enough t postes for my fence thank you.:cool:

Tom Carter
04-10-2011, 05:26 PM
John, Try Jim Kelly.

Tom

Gary Carmichael Sr
04-12-2011, 05:26 PM
John, if you do not find the spring, you can shoot my gun is the spring off the 34' D Grade? I am bringing it to the southern.

John Truitt
04-12-2011, 09:35 PM
Mr. Carmichael,

Thank you for the very kind offer. Fortunately a very generous member has found a spring and it is in transit. It is off of my go to gun, a 34" DHE 9 pounder. Bad thing is my back up to her is iffy at best (another 34" DHE 8 and 3/4 pounder) as she has a doubling tendency. As of now I have patched my primary and she is working but for who knows how long.
Hope all is well. Hope to see you soon. I am glad that gun is coming. I always like to see it and know where she is. :)