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Michael Brown
10-24-2023, 02:03 PM
Can anyone help me with what is required for me to ship a shotgun (No FFL) to a buyer in the USA.
Thanks in advance..
Mike..

Andrew Sacco
10-24-2023, 02:06 PM
You're shipping without an FFL or TO someone without an FFL? Enormous difference there.

Frank Srebro
10-24-2023, 02:18 PM
A post 1898 shotgun cannot be shipped to someone in another state who doesn’t have a FFL. Period. Federal law. If the buyer claims to be a Federal Licensee you need to get a valid copy of his FFL before shipping.

Michael Brown
10-24-2023, 02:30 PM
A post 1898 shotgun cannot be shipped to someone in another state who doesn’t have a FFL. Period. Federal law. If the buyer claims to be a Federal Licensee you need to get a valid copy of his FFL before shipping.

Got it, the buyer needs an FFL, but I do not, either way I need a copy of the buyers or his agents FFL.
Thanks,
Mike..

Andrew Sacco
10-24-2023, 02:34 PM
Correct Mike. If the buyer has a CR (Curio/Relic) license you may sell to him directly, but he would have let you know if he did I would think.

Joseph Sheerin
10-24-2023, 02:49 PM
Make sure the FFL you are shipping to, accepts from non-FFL holder. Some will not.

I always have my gun Club ship my guns for me, avoids a lot of hassle.

Michael Brown
10-24-2023, 02:54 PM
Got it,
Thanks all...
Mike..

John Allen
10-24-2023, 07:41 PM
You will have to ship through the post office if you ship it yourself. The post office will require a copy of the receiving FFLs license. UPS and FedX will not accept guns from non FFLs or even FFLs who do not have an account with them. If you ship to an FFL you will need to send a copy of your drivers license with the gun so they can log it into their books from you.

Michael Brown
10-24-2023, 07:56 PM
Got it, a copy of my drivers license, a copy of the buyers FFL, I have a commercial account with the Post Office, so its definitely going that way.
I will also include a few copies of the bill of sale as well.
Thanks to all again for the help..
Mike..

Michael Brown
10-24-2023, 08:01 PM
Also, now that I think about it, having never shipped a long gun by mail, what would be considered adequate for a shipping box/container ? How rough is the USPS on that type of shipment, normally ?

Frank Srebro
10-24-2023, 08:12 PM
If the buyer has a C&R FFL (Type 03 FFL) you ask for a signed/dated copy of that FFL and must ship to the address shown on the FFL.

Phillip Carr
10-25-2023, 12:28 AM
Personally I will not ship a shotgun in an assembled state. For a SXS I remove the barrels and forend from the receiver/ butt stock assembly. Wrapping each them separately in a cardboard box designed for firearm shipping.
I make sure to remove the tension of the top lever so it comes back to neutral. I ship by Priority mail, signature required, and ask that the FFL inspects the package before signing for it.
It will be impossible to make a claim if the package is signed for and later they report the box was damaged along with the firearm when the box was opened.
Ship insured unless you have a personal gun policy that covers guns if damaged or lost in shipping.
Quality Packing material and a strong container is money well spent.
Never underestimate the ability of any shipping company out there to be able to damage an item you ship and be done in ways you can not imagine.
Luckily for me I have only had 1 shotgun damaged that I personally packed and shipped.

Michael Brown
10-25-2023, 04:36 AM
Phil,
All very helpful, I appreciate it greatly.
I agree with your take on shipping companies, I would not feel completely safe shipping cannon balls, much less Parker shotguns.
Thanks,
Mike..