Broke my H&H Stock

[todd allen]

Need to know if this is fixable, and who can do it.
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[Dean Romig]

Brian Board or up in Maine Steve Dalzell.

I know Brian Dudley can do it but he’ll have to say how busy he may or may not be right now.





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[todd allen]

I wonder if insurance will cover it?

[Dean Romig]

Call your insurance company…





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[William Woods]

That's a shame. Good luck on your repair.

[Buddy Marson]

I would use Dennis Smith (The Stock Doctor) Phone (541) 483-2182. He also has a web site.

[todd allen]

Thanks Buddy, I got a referral from a friend, retired gunsmith Toby Leeds, and have spoken to Dennis. He sounds like a hell of a good guy.
He said that he might not be able to fix this one, but will take a look.
Worst case, I have a stock blank from Cecil Fredi that I have been sitting on for about 30 years, so if it's appropriate for this gun that's the way we will go.
BTW, I called my insurance agent's office, (State Farm) and they are temporarily down do to some sort of water emergency.

[Mike Koneski]

Need to know if this is fixable, and who can do it.
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Did you fall with the gun or the gun fall over out of a rack?

[todd allen]

I store my guns muzzle down in the safe. This one tipped over out of the safe, and landed on the floor, which is ceramic tile.

[todd allen]

Do you have Collision on it ?
Home owners, with a firearms rider.

[Bill Murphy]

Todd, is your H&H the gun in the OFF TOPIC forum that Jerry Lewis knocked off the gun rack?

[todd allen]

No, this happened last night at home.

[john pulis]

You might touch base with Dewey Vicknair in PA. He has repaired cracks like this. Good luck.

[bruce a lyons]

State Farm will not cover unless stolen or burned. At least that's what they told me.

[Randy G Roberts]

State Farm will not cover unless stolen or burned. At least that's what they told me.

Bruce there are to many unknown variables here for that broad approach to apply:
Was it written on a Form 3
Was it written on a Form 5
Was it scheduled:
If scheduled was it on a property or inland marine form
Was breakage coverage selected

And on and on and on. Any ways you get the picture....

[Buddy Marson]

Todd,
I've had Dennis restock my B grade Parker and his work is outstanding. You should be completely satisfied. Sorry about the break!

[Ian Civco]

I would contact Holland & Holland directly.

[Allen Peterson]

Since its a very nice H&H even if you get it glued back together it will bother you. Get it restocked to your personal dimensions. I know your pain.
https://ibb.co/hLmDPH7. https://ibb.co/QkHNc1V

[todd allen]

I have it booked for a restock with Dennis. The insurance company is not going to cover this, as it will be less than my deductible.
I am trying to look at this less as an accident, and more like an upgrade.
I think I need a go fund me account

[Joseph Sheerin]

Given it's an H&H I think I would be investing in a brand new stock, that is custom fit to order......

[Joseph Sheerin]

Also, it would have taken me a couple days to stop crying over that one.....

I recently bought a new Citori CXS white, the forend slipped out of my hands dinging the wood pretty good, I thought that was tough, Browning fixed it on them. Not sure how I'd take this event you suffered. My thoughts and prayers are with you.... :D

[John Albano]

Nice to see Browning step up and take care of you. They just got some great advertising. Great for both parties!

[Phillip Carr]

Another reason I have a separate gun insurance policy. Only a $500 deductible if this happens to me. Guns and Trophy covers the rest.

[bob lyons]

Question for the forum members, from a value or resale basis wouldn’t a new stock be much better?

[Dean Romig]

IMO, Only if it was done perfectly by an expert stockmaker to be difficult to discern from the original.





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[todd allen]

I finally worked up the nerve to take the locks off and have a look.
It appears that the original stock is repairable, which is good news for me, as money is tight, as well as (at 70 years of age) time left on earth.
The deciding factor was the condition of the wood between the action plates.
I have a friend who is a retired gunsmith, Toby Leeds, who has been quite a help in this time of need.

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[Alfred Greeson]

Good luck, one beautiful gun.

[Bill Murphy]

I thought you had it booked with Dennis for a restock. Did I misread your post?

[todd allen]

Yes, it is booked with Dennis. The question now is whether it is a repair, or a restock.

[Ian Civco]

Why not contact Holland & Holland directly?

What’s the value of this shotgun?

[allen newell]

Todd, has Dennis quoted you the cost of a new stock? How much if I may ask? I'd rather see you restock it. If not and as I think Dean said, it will always be on your mind when you shoot it. If you decide to restock and are short on money, I'll help you out. Beautiful gun that needs a new whole stock.

[todd allen]

Thanks Allen.
I should probably go to PMs on prices, as I don't want to impact other gunsmiths on the site.

[todd allen]

Thanks Allen.
I should probably go to PMs on prices, as I don't want to impact other gunsmiths on the site.
I would like to clarify this kinda awkward statement.
There are a wide range of pricing for restocking based on action type, grade, etc.
There are some very very good gunsmith/stockers here, with their own pricing models, and back-logs. Every job is different.
Their prices are their prices whether higher, lower, or the same.
Out of respect for these craftsmen I'd rather not throw numbers around on the Net.

[Brian Dudley]

Anyone who asks questions like that is not serious anyway, if they really wanted to know they would ask the craftsman themselves directly.

[todd allen]

A couple of members have reached out to me via PM, but so far it has been more to console me over the hit this has been on my meager collection.
There has been some discussion on pricing, but all very subjective regarding work that needs to be done on various projects. All spoken in confidentiality.
We have a very classy brotherhood here. I'm impressed.

[Ian Civco]

Why wouldn’t you contact Holland & Holland directly about this and have them do the work?

[todd allen]

Time for an update:
I'm getting old, live on a fixed income, and didn't want to spend the time and money, so opted to fix it myself.
Ordered some hi tech epoxy, (West System) set up a work station in my office, and went for it.
I have a background in auto collision and paint, and wood working, so what the heck.
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[todd allen]

Time for an update:
I'm getting old, live on a fixed income, and didn't want to spend the time and money, so opted to fix it myself.
Ordered some hi tech epoxy, (West System) set up a work station in my office, and went for it.
I have a background in auto collision and paint, and wood working, so what the heck.
Here's some pics:
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[David Livesay]

Looks good from here. Hope it stays together forever.

[Ken Hill]

Todd,

The repair looks pretty good. Let us know how it holds up after a round of skeet or sporting clays.

Ken

[todd allen]

Thanks, Ken. I feel pretty good about the repair.
I used West System G/Flex toughened Epoxy. Their tech team helped me with any questions, a couple of very experienced gun smiths helped with some guidance.
I used AI on some stuff, and studied British Side Lock disassemble/reassemble videos.
That, and I have extensive experience with turnscrew shaping & fitting.
I created a set of drivers perfectly matched to every screw I encountered. I could do that for a living.
After the set-up and cure, I studied the pictures of the break very carefully, and could actually anticipate where problems would be in the fit-up of the action.
The top tang needed to be realigned some, as well as the trigger guard.
Fitting up the action plates was quite a challenge, and when I felt like I was up against it, I would walk away. These old Brit guns run super tight tolerances. I mic'd everything.
I would not, at my age, try to do this for a living, even though I built my first gun stock about 55 years ago, and have built a few since. I have some skills.
That said, I take my hat off to guys like Brian D, and Dennis Smith who make this stuff look easy.
Trust me, it's not easy, and they earn their money.