2023 Parker Sells/trade Buys??

[Craig Larter]

2023 had been an active year for me. Sold 6 and purchased 4, bought a BHE 12/32 with 2 7/8" factory chambers high original condition, Parker DH 8ga 36" rare gun but not much condition, DHE 12/30 circa 1920 bench mark near mint original condition gun and a duck blind shooter #3 frame 12ga 28". How about you??? Don't ask me about LCS or Lefevers LOL!

[Chris Robenalt]

Too many purchases to mention Craig, but it was a good year! Now it's time to trade a few and upgrade. Looking to trade for an XE 12 my friend has.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Craig, Sold 5 bought 5, Ithaca 4E and a 7E ,1878 Colt, 1874 Sharps, and that 1892 Winchester, no Parkers bought so far, I thought as I got older I would not buy many more guns but what the heck I like em! Gary

[CraigThompson]

I’ve moved a bunch of stuff and I’m not finished yet . I bought three or four things and all almost immediately were back out for sale . I’ve seen two this year that I’d truely like to have and of course neither are for sale .

[Donald F. Mills]

Sold a DH and CHE to fund an A1 Special purchase.

https://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39948

[Reggie Bishop]

Craig is your new BHE 32” a Damascus gun? Since your Parkers normally are. Sounds like a wonderful gun!

[Craig Larter]

Craig is your new BHE 32” a Damascus gun? Since your Parkers normally are. Sounds like a wonderful gun!

It's my only non Damascus Parker, Acme steel. It does have factory 2 7/8" 12ga chambers.

[Andrew Sacco]

Did not sell any guns this year

Bought:

A Zoli 28g round body Pernice
Perazzi MX8
Nikko Shadow bunker gun
Home defense beast
Ithaca 4E SBT

and finally one Parker

A 28" 12g VHE brought to life by Turnbull with stunning wood and great dimensions. I was told the 2 3/4" chambers and IC/M chokes are factory but it's not in the serialization book. I'll have to go home and look again at the stamps on the water table.

I think most of my selling is done for a while.

[Jim McKee]

After selling several other guns I was able to purchase a CHE 12 and a CHE 16.

[charlie cleveland]

i bought no parkers sold 1 parker bought the davenport 10 ga single barrel and a winchester 1892 25-20 carbine......charlie

[Frank Srebro]

I've sold off most of my random guns and earlier this year I put out a WTB for an honest 12g/32" Parker with good dimensions and tight chokes. It took a while but since then I snagged several good ones in Grades VH, VHE, DH, along with a 28" VHE that will see the grouse woods in a few weeks. They added to two Parkers I already owned. Some of my Fox friends will think this is heresy but right now I have more Parkers than Foxes. :)

[Mills Morrison]

While not a Parker, I got an Ithaca Mag 10 which is a great gun.

[Dean Romig]

I've sold off a lot of random guns and earlier this year I put out a WTB for an honest 12g/32" Parker with good dimensions and tight chokes. It took a while but since then I snagged several good ones - VH, VHE, DH, along with a 28" VHE that will see the grouse woods in a few weeks. They added to two Parkers I'd kept. Some of my Fox friends will think this is heresy but right now I have more Parkers than Foxes. :)


Frank, you may by now have found that a Parker “gets the game” every bit as well as a Fox.:whistle:





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[Mike Koneski]

Bought a very nice 12g Trojan for Tad. For me, bought an 8g P grade 34" and a really nice 12g 32" DHE with great dimensions. Might have been another one or two but I don't remember if they were 2023 or 2022. Picked up some classic varmint rifles. But that's a completely different thread topic. :cool:

[Mike Koneski]

Some of my Fox friends will think this is heresy but right now I have more Parkers than Foxes. :)

Frank, not everyone goes right into the big leagues. Some have to play in the minors until they're ready for the big show. Just sayin' for a friend. :rotf::rotf:

[Stan Hillis]

Frank, not everyone goes right into the big leagues. Some have to play in the minors until they're ready for the big show. Just sayin' for a friend. :rotf::rotf:

Ouch!!! :duck:

[allen newell]

Well said Mike. Some of us learned to crawl first before we learned to run. Just sayin"

[MARK KIRCHER]

A good friend decided to move out of his Parkers and into another area of collecting. I was fortunate enough to get the call. I now own two Fabulous grade 7 12 bores.
I also bought what I suspect is the only 20 bore 32" cutaway gun at the G&D auction earlier this year. Sold off a bunch of dust collectors. Looking to add. Time to go duck hunting first- Headed to Manitoba tomorrow!

[Frank Srebro]

Frank, not everyone goes right into the big leagues. Some have to play in the minors until they're ready for the big show. Just sayin' for a friend. :rotf::rotf:

Hey Mike, Craig asked about Parker buys this year and that's what I replied to. Also as you know I haven't jumped ship on Fox guns. Just sayin that right now I have more Parkers than Foxes and that's in part because there are way more enthusiastic Parker shooters than Foxers. I've always been warmly welcomed to join in with a Parker sporting gang while shooting a Parker and thus my move to get more of them. And really, a Fox might cause some of them the jitters or inattention while looking at its seductive frame panels and styling. I wouldn't want to do that to my Parker friends. :rotf:

[Dean Romig]

Mark - I love that “Old Hoss” engraved grip cap!!





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[JAMES HALL]

2 of them flowers

[Reggie Bishop]

Mark that is a beauty! Gonna shoot some mallards with those AAHEs? I think I know the answer already!

[Destry L. Hoffard]

I sent one down the road in a buy / trade deal for a VHE skeet. That's the only gun I've picked up in a year or so, just not much I want these days.

[Stan Hillis]

Mark - I love that “Old Hoss” engraved grip cap!!





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Me too, Dean. That has planted a thought in my mind as a nice touch on a "customized" gun that would have no real collector value.

[MARK KIRCHER]

Picture of the 20 bore 32" cutaway gun

[Dan Steingraber]

2 of them flowers

Wow, more pics of the Grade 7's please Mark.
I see 5 Mr Jimmy.

[JAMES HALL]

Sorry I was just on the grip cap. It is impressive one

[Mike Koneski]

Hey Mike, Craig asked about Parker buys this year and that's what I replied to. Also as you know I haven't jumped ship on Fox guns. Just sayin that right now I have more Parkers than Foxes and that's in part because there are way more enthusiastic Parker shooters than Foxers. I've always been warmly welcomed to join in with a Parker sporting gang while shooting a Parker and thus my move to get more of them. And really, a Fox might cause some of them the jitters or inattention while looking at its seductive frame panels and styling. I wouldn't want to do that to my Parker friends. :rotf:

Light and nice to carry in the uplands I'll agree with. Seductive side panels, now you're stretching even Tool Man's imagination!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I will admit they are nicer than those "felling wedges" on those Smitty guns. :shock::rotf::corn:

[Mills Morrison]

Fox is a strong second to Parkers in my book.

[Dan Steingraber]

Sorry I was just on the grip cap. It is impressive one

Wow, I didn't even look at the grip cap Sir. What a beautiful example.

[CraigThompson]

Sorry I was just on the grip cap. It is impressive one

Needs an antlered critter on the floor plate :rolleyes: All BS aside very nice very very nice !

[CraigThompson]

I've sold off most of my random guns :) Kinda what I was doing , had a whole bunch of fixer uppers etc and I got them all finished up by sending them down the road :rotf::rotf::rotf:

[Stan Hillis]

Fox is a strong second to Parkers in my book.

Parkers are a strong second to Foxes in my book. Currently have seven Foxes and one Parker. The HE grade Super Fox has been duly elected the Senate Majority Leader.

[Craig Larter]

In 20 and 16ga Foxes rule compared to Parker 20/16's. The frame of a Fox is much more petite and Foxes generally weight less than Parkers. The Parker frame is to long and looks out of balance on 20/16's. I expect lots of hate mail LOL!!

[Reggie Bishop]

In 20 and 16ga Foxes rule compared to Parker 20/16's. The frame of a Fox is much more petite and Foxes generally weight less than Parkers. The Parker frame is to long and looks out of balance on 20/16's. I expect lots of hate mail LOL!!

Spoken like a true big bore shooter! :bigbye:

On a side note I once had a Parker BHE 20 30" straight stock and a Fox DE 20 30" straight stock side by side on my rack. The Parker BHE 20 is still there. :)

[Craig Larter]

Spoken like a true big bore shooter! :bigbye:

On a side note I once had a Parker BHE 20 30" straight stock and a Fox DE 20 30" straight stock side by side on my rack. The Parker BHE 20 is still there. :)

You made a poor choice Reggie :)

[Dan Steingraber]

In 20 and 16ga Foxes rule compared to Parker 20/16's. The frame of a Fox is much more petite and Foxes generally weight less than Parkers. The Parker frame is to long and looks out of balance on 20/16's. I expect lots of hate mail LOL!!

It’s like a choice between beautiful Blondes or Brunettes for me. I love them all and want to take every one I see home. It sure is easier to own one of the Parker’s though. And then there is the 28 gauge…

[Frank Srebro]

Mike mentioned Fox small bores for the uplands. Besides their weight and looks, IMO Foxes are better than Parkers for the inevitable bumps and falls while upland hunting. Take it from a guy who does chokes. Vintage Parker steel barrels are typically quite soft and easily dented. I heard that from an old time gunsmith 40 some years ago and confirmed for myself when opening chokes on both makers. Fox barrels are typically way harder. I much prefer to do Parker chokes = quick, easy and very little wear on the reamers. :)

Here's one of my tapered choke reamers and free-cut chips from a Parker (both barrels) done about a month ago for a local friend who asks a lot of questions for his friend. :rotf:

Next time I do a Fox I'll post another pic showing the difference in chip size and shape from tougher reaming.

[Mike Koneski]

Fox is a strong second to Parkers in my book.

For me, Parker first, Lefever a close 2nd, Ithaca 3rd. Don’t even own a Fox anymore.

[Mike Koneski]

It’s like a choice between beautiful Blondes or Brunettes for me. I love them all and want to take every one I see home. It sure is easier to own one of the Parker’s though. And then there is the 28 gauge…

What about those of us who dig red-heads??? Asking for a friend.

[Mike Koneski]

In 20 and 16ga Foxes rule compared to Parker 20/16's. The frame of a Fox is much more petite and Foxes generally weight less than Parkers. The Parker frame is to long and looks out of balance on 20/16's. I expect lots of hate mail LOL!!

That’s why Parkers are much better for clays. The lightweight Fox is not conducive to hundreds of rounds per day. For me, a few pounds more in a gun is nothing when carrying it in the field. I’m Polish, German and Scandinavian so we’re just tough! 😎😁🤪

[Randy G Roberts]

You made a poor choice Reggie :)

Oh but you should see that BHE 20, it's a screamer Craig.

[Daryl Corona]

In 20 and 16ga Foxes rule compared to Parker 20/16's. The frame of a Fox is much more petite and Foxes generally weight less than Parkers. The Parker frame is to long and looks out of balance on 20/16's. I expect lots of hate mail LOL!!

You're preaching to the choir here Craig. You know how I love the Fox 20 and I manage to shoot it fairly well. To me, they are a much more livelier handling gun. That's not to knock the Parker 20's I own. I own a few and enjoy shooting them but 9 out of 10 times I will pick a Fox over the Parker. I also have a Lefever 20 which is in the same league as the Fox. But with out a doubt my Parker 28's are in a league by themselves. As a sidebar, the Parker 28 on a OO frame is the same size as a Fox smallbore frame. Too bad Fox never saw fit to make a 28.:banghead:

As far as 2023 acquisitions I did acquire a nice 12ga A grade with 30in tubes and a 20ga Parker Trojan with 26in tubes and the doll's head extension bequeathed to me by a lifelong friend.

[CraigThompson]

You're preaching to the choir here Craig. You know how I love the Fox 20 and I manage to shoot it fairly well. To me, they are a much more livelier handling gun. That's not to knock the Parker 20's I own. I own a few and enjoy shooting them but 9 out of 10 times I will pick a Fox over the Parker. I also have a Lefever 20 which is in the same league as the Fox. But with out a doubt my Parker 28's are in a league by themselves. As a sidebar, the Parker 28 on a OO frame is the same size as a Fox smallbore frame. Too bad Fox never saw fit to make a 28.:banghead:

As far as 2023 acquisitions I did acquire a nice 12ga A grade with 30in tubes and a 20ga Parker Trojan with 26in tubes and the doll's head extension bequeathed to me by a lifelong friend.

I’d have been totally okay with AH Fox if they’d seen fit to make 8’s 10’s 28’s and 410’s :whistle:

[Mills Morrison]

I have a 20 gauge Sterlingworth that is my go-to wood duck gun. No other manufacturer made a gun quite like the Super Fox, although many tried.

[Stan Hoover]

No other manufacturer made a gun quite like the Super Fox, although many tried.

The Super Fox gets much hype, but how does the pattern compare to other makers that were chambered for the 3" shell??

Parker of course made quite a few although I don't know that I've ever heard a number??

Ithaca produced 87 12 gauge Ithaca NID's with 3" chambers on their Larger Magnum Frame with the additional lug through the frame for strength.

I've never owned or shot a Super Fox and I don't want to be hung or stoned:shock:, but was the pattern out of a Becker Super Fox that much better than the other makers magnum 12's??

[Reggie Bishop]

There are way too many variables among guns and shot shells for one to make a blanket statement about any particular gun. The Super Fox is a fine long distance shotgun no doubt, but I don't think they are in that category by themselves.

[Mike Koneski]

I've never owned or shot a Super Fox and I don't want to be hung or stoned:shock:, but was the pattern out of a Becker Super Fox that much better than the other makers magnum 12's??

That's a great question Stan. I'm sure Frank, Craig or Researcher might have some data on the patterns of a Becker barreled gun vs a factory barreled gun. I'd be interested too to see definitive proof of MUCH better patterns opposed to non-Becker patterns. Was it the real deal or just a hype/status symbol thing. Kind of like the latest, greatest choke tube gimmick in the registered clays shooting world that everyone just has to have or you'll be left behind. Frank did a lot of pattern testing with his guns. Not sure whether that was to test the various guns or if it was to test various loads? I just don't remember. I'm sure he'll be along shortly.

[edgarspencer]

Sold a 24", 28 gauge, and bought a 30", 28 gauge.

[Dean Romig]

Good dealing Edgar!! I'm jealous!





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[CraigThompson]

The Super Fox gets much hype, but how does the pattern compare to other makers that were chambered for the 3" shell??

Parker of course made quite a few although I don't know that I've ever heard a number??

Ithaca produced 87 12 gauge Ithaca NID's with 3" chambers on their Larger Magnum Frame with the additional lug through the frame for strength.

I've never owned or shot a Super Fox and I don't want to be hung or stoned:shock:, but was the pattern out of a Becker Super Fox that much better than the other makers magnum 12's??

The HE I had for a month or two was tight , but sad to say I never patterned it . But my God that hun felt heavy although on postage scales it only weighed 9 1/2 pounds . I shoot a couple Parker 10’s that are heavier via the scales but they don’t feel as heavy as that HE did to me . Have a friend the had a Smith Long Range that shot some sporty patterns at 40+ yards . I’ve yet to fondle a 21 Duck but maybe soon .

[CraigThompson]

Good dealing Edgar!! I'm jealous!





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Yes I thought I just had to have a VHE 28 30” and almost had one . If it hadn’t been for shooting the Parker VHE 28 30” belonging to a Parker regular I’d never have been intrested in such a thing .

[CraigThompson]

What about those of us who dig red-heads??? Asking for a friend.

Go to Walmart they’ll sell you some junk to make any color hair you like . Just saying for a friend :rotf::rotf::rotf:

[Frank Srebro]

The Super Fox gets much hype, but how does the pattern compare to other makers that were chambered for the 3" shell??

Parker of course made quite a few although I don't know that I've ever heard a number??

Ithaca produced 87 12 gauge Ithaca NID's with 3" chambers on their Larger Magnum Frame with the additional lug through the frame for strength.

I've never owned or shot a Super Fox and I don't want to be hung or stoned:shock:, but was the pattern out of a Becker Super Fox that much better than the other makers magnum 12's??

The Super-Fox and earlier LC Smith Long Range are the only two Special Long Range duck guns on which I've ever seen detailed patterning results by period/recognized experts. Both performed about equally well with 40 yard patterns typically at 80 - 85% using paper roll crimp progressive 3-inch shells and 1-3/8 oz of ducking size shot. In terms of pellet count that was comparable to 40 yard patterning at 95% or so with 2-3/4-inch/1-1/4 oz regular "High Brass" loads. A major step change!

The Super-Fox's modern day performance with Kent 3-inch Bismuth and Tungsten Matrix loads wasn't up to the old time par when I tested a good Super against a Winchester Model 21 Duck gun and a Model 12 Heavy Duck pump gun, both 3-inchers. Probably due to the Super's very heavy choke profile that was regulated for those long discontinued progressive shells with fiber wards and bare lead shot. In fact the Model 12 HD pump gun with conventional 12-gauge .730" bore and regular "Full" choking bested the Super-Fox at 40 and 60 yards. Anyone interested in this objective testing of the Super-Fox and the two other 12g/3-inch guns might refer to the article Too High Still in the DGJ Volume 28/Issue 3

Sorry Stan I didn't have a 3-inch Ithaca NID or Parker for testing. Again, despite extensive research I never found any objective pattern efficiency results with period paper 3-inch/1-3/8 oz shells in either gun.

[Steve Cambria]

PARKER small-bores =

119664

FOX small-bores =

119665

Both beautiful specimens with slightly different handling characteristics!!

[Mike Koneski]

PARKER small-bores =

119664

FOX small-bores =

119665

Both beautiful specimens with slightly different handling characteristics!!

That bottom pic is definitely high maintenance. The top pic gets the job done too. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Just sayin'. :corn:

[Mike Koneski]

Tool man, now you can dig Team Crescent!! :rotf::rotf::rotf:

[Jim Thynne]

Sadly sold 155110 and149977 age and health wins again