New Pigeon Ring Operational!

[Mark Ouellette]

The Pigeon Ring at Lapeer Michigan Sportmans Club is in operation!!! This is thanks to Paul Harm and other club members. Today we shot the ring, or should I say the rotating trap where the ring will be and it is not easy! The trap is hidden behind a wood barrier so this is different than the rings at the Upper Peninsula match where they are under ground level. One step at a time…

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Paul Harm and his granddaughter adjusting the rotator.
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This is me trying my skill with my Elsie Chain Damascus 10 Gauge and hoping for some luck!
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Happiness is our club’s SxS only rack with Parkers, LC Smith, AH Fox, and Remington doubleguns! There are a couple empty spaces. It was a slow day at the range…
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We hope many of you will join us at our Spring SxS Shoot on 16 Arpil 2011. Information concerning this shoot is at:
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3421

[Ed Blake]

How does this game work? Looks interesting.

[Mark Ouellette]

Ed,

The rules for shooting a "clay" Pigeon Ring vary between the clubs operating them but in general they try to simulate live pigeon rings.

1. A trap mounted on a rotating platform.
2. The platform is on an angle so that targets released toward the shooter fly high but will eventually land short of the shooter.
3. Targets thrown to the left or right have medium elevation but travel farther.
4. Targets thrown directly away from the shooter travel low and fast much like a straight away trap shot.
5. The trap is hidden from the shooters view and is rotating.
6. The shooter calls "pull" and the target is released (ususally with a short delay) in a direction that the shooter should not know.
7. There is a circle or "ring" around the trap. The size MAY be 17 yards in front and left and right of the trap and 27 yards behind the trap.
8. A 6" piece of engineer tape (non-sticky brightly colored plastic streamer 1" wide) is folded up and taped to the underside of the targets.
9. The shooter may shoot twice at each target.
10. The piece of the target with the engineer tape/streamer must fall within the ring.

Note: Ideally the trap should be below ground level so that those keeping score will have a clear view of if the tape falls inside or outside the ring. Often wind will blow those in or out adding to the excitement!

Of course when just starting to shoot a pigeon ring, the ring and taped targets are not necessary because those clays are darn hard to hit!

PS: Many thanks to the Sagola Township Mighigan Sportsmens Club, host of the Upper Penisula Side-by-Side Classic, http://www.stsportsmen.com/ for allowing me to copy their World-Class pigeon ring set up!

Our ring at Lapeer County Sportsmans Club in southeast Michigan will never equal that of our Yupper friends! It will however be a lot of fun and will also serve as a warm up for shooting the Yupper rings!

Respectfully,
Mark

[Robin Lewis]

Question: It looks like the shooter can shoot in a 360 degree circle around him/her (?), so where do spectators get positioned? I have never seen this and if I were to suggest it to my club, I am sure safety would be the first concern.

Our club, like many, have building and parking in back of the trap and skeet ranges. I assume this would need a much bigger space to accommodate the full circle of shooting available?

[Mark Ouellette]

Robin,

Good point but looks can be deceiving. The shooting was limited to less than 180 degrees. I picked a few photos which show action but as you point out may suggest a safety hazard. We are going to bring up shooter stands with side and top bars to limit movement. To start we will set 3 shooting stands in a line 10 yards from the ring. The shooters will alternate shots.

For this test run the targets fell in front of the shooter (who in the photos is me). For those photos in which I am pointing up at perhaps an 80 degree angle to the ground, the target was past its apex and its way down. Had we had the 17 yard ring set up, a hit on those targets would have landed the tape outside of the ring.

Clearly a You Tube video of this is needed...

Thanks!
Mark

[Eric Eis]

Robin there are 5 stations similar to trap but you don't rotate, so you are only shooting targets in front of you. It's fun Eric

[Robin Lewis]

Thanks! One more question, is there a diagram anywhere that you worked from? Something that gives measurement, positions, angles..... etc, technical stuff to build from?

[Mark Ouellette]

Robin,

I walked out the distances of the rings at the Upper shoot and shot hundreds of photos. I'll post an album on this site of the best photos.

Shooter is 27 yards (sound familiar?) from the trap.
Rings are 17 yards from the trap on 3 sides with the far side of the ring being 27 yards from the trap.
The far edge of the ring is 54 yards from the shooter.

Mark

[Mark Ouellette]

Somewhere I read that for pigeon shoots the guns were limited to 8 pounds. There may have also been a gauge restriction to no bigger than 12. This of course is nothing that I want! I like my big and somewhat lively 10's !

[Mark Ouellette]

Gentlemen,

This is a pigeon. We are not shooting live pigeons. :)

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These are clay pigeons with engineer tape attached as streamers to mark where the "bird" falls.

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A well known COB of the PGCA dropping a CLAY pigeon with a Parker Top Action hammer gun at last year's Upper Penisula SxS Shoot!

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Please notice the orange streamer!

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Everyone shoot well and safe!
Mark

[Mark Ouellette]

Please come try out the new Pigeon Ring at the Lapeer County Sportsmans Club (Located in Attica, Michigan) Spring SxS Shoot on 16 April. Shoot information is available at this post from the Events section: http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3421

Another one of the Michigan Parker boys playing with pigeons...

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[Mark Ouellette]

I don't want to leave anyone out so here is Opening Day!

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And that's how it is done!

PS: Please come use our new Pigeon Ring at the Lapeer County Sportsmans Club (Michigan) Spring SxS Shoot pn 16 April. Shoot information is available at this post from the Events section: http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3421

[Dean Romig]

I'd like to know why a "well known COB's" head isn't down on the stock and how you guys got that pigeon to break when it obviously wasn't broken by a COB who can't put the wood to the wood?

[Dave Suponski]

And I bet those photos of Eric are doctored because the target in the picture is broken.......:rotf:

[Mark Ouellette]

If you New Englanders would come to the Yooper there would be photos of you breaking three targets with one shot!

[Eric Eis]

And I bet those photos of Eric are doctored because the target in the picture is broken.......:rotf:

One of my lucky shots.......:) It is great fun, what can drive you nuts is when you break the target inside the ring and then a puff of wind comes along and blows the ribbon outside the ring :shock: Rule of the ring you always shoot twice, break the target on the first shot shoot the ribbon on the second.

[Mark Ouellette]

In case anyone forgot, the Spring SxS Shoot at Lapeer Michigan is this Saturday, 16 April 2011. We hope to see many of you there!

The Pigeon Ring is operational thanks to Paul "PH Forge" Harm!

[Rich Anderson]

I always have wood on wood:whistle:...must be a bad camera angle:rolleyes:

I'll have to dust off the hammergun as it hasn't been out in a long time:cuss:

Paul will have his usual weather 40% chance of rain and the high of 50:banghead:

I just looked at the pictures again and the first pic I'm bringing the gun up the other pictures show wood on wood thereby breaking the target. This is sequential photography....Dean:)

[Dean Romig]

Okay! Sorry.... Rich:D

[Rich Anderson]

I forgive you Dean. Sorry to hear you won't be making the Southern. I had planned on bringing a very special run of Jack D that Ive coveted for a long time. Just for you I'll save it for Hausmanns:)

[Dean Romig]

That's very generous of you Rich. You can bet I'll be at Hausman's and after the day's shooting is done I shall gladly assist you in putting to good use the contents of that rare edition of Mr. Daniels' fine sour mash.

[Rich Anderson]

Dean just to give you something to look forward to this is a limited edition to commemorate the 1905 Gold Medal awarded to Jack Daniels in Liege Belgium. I have had this for a long time just waiting for a special occasion.

[Dean Romig]

Trust me Rich - it will be a "special occasion" :D