Things You Would Like to Know

[Reggie Bishop]

Thomas Jefferson was said to have used the phrase "knowledge is power" on a number of occasions. Wouldn't one love to know how many Parker Brothers 16 gauges were made on the "0" frame with 32" Damascus barrels? I know they made at least one. Anyone else care to contribute? :cool:

[Randy G Roberts]

A friend in PA has 1 and the So. IN Gun Cartel is rumored to have one as well :rotf: Both of those are GH grades.

[Reggie Bishop]

Then that means they made at least 3 of them. Thanks for the information.

[Brian Dudley]

Well, the tables in TPS should be able to give you an approximate total number across grades for 32” 16g guns. And then from there you can speculate on how many may be 0 frames vs 1 frames.

[CraigThompson]

A friend in PA has 1 and the So. IN Gun Cartel is rumored to have one as well :rotf: Both of those are GH grades.

So I’m curious how many 16 32” 0 frames , how many1 frames and how many 2 frames does the cartel have packed away :rotf:

[Randy G Roberts]

So I’m curious how many 16 32” 0 frames , how many1 frames and how many 2 frames does the cartel have packed away :rotf:

Don't forget those wonderful 1 1/2 frame guns.

[Aaron Beck]

Things you would like to show?

[CraigThompson]

Don't forget those wonderful 1 1/2 frame guns.

The first 16 gauge I attempted to buy lettered as a 1 1/2 frame gun , but when I physically looked at it the barrels indicated 1 frame and the barrels had been sleeved . And of course it didn’t come home with me .

[Dean Romig]

About three or four years ago while in Dave Trevallion’s vasement workshop I spied a looong barreled, straight grip Parker with Damascus barrels. It was a gun he had done some work on but the owner hadn’t paid him and there had sat for the duration.
It was a 32” GHE in exceptionally nice condition. I offered, on the basis of ‘mechanic’s lein’ to buy the gun but he said he couldn’t sell it to me as he didn’t need to end up in litigation but he would reach out to the owner yet again. The owner would not allow Dave to sell it and would send Dave a check.
Turns out that Dave had to wait another year to be paid and he fibally sent the gun back to the owner… (who had actually forgotten he had ever sent the gun to Dave in the first place).

Funny business this ‘gun repair’ stuff.





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[Harold Lee Pickens]

Reggie, there were at least a dozen made with even longer than 32" barrels, esp. in the hammer gun era. I have a set of 34" O frame 16 ga hammer gun barrels, and have an O frame 16 hammer gun. Unfortunately, those barrels are in very poor shape , and probably beyond repair. I had borrowed Brett Hoops TPS and remember seeing a run of long barreled O frame guns.

[Dean Romig]

I have owned 7 16 gauge hammer guns with Damascus barrels, all of them on the 0-frame, but I’ve only ever seen 4 that were 1-frame guns. Jimmy Hall had a beautiful high-condition one on the 1-frame about 10 years ago but I don’t know how long the barrels were.

Judging by my own experience I would guess that 50% of the guns in question were made on the 0-frame, 40% were made on the 1-frame while the remaining 10% were on mixed frame sizes other than the 0 and 1 sizes.

JMHO - no actual science involved.





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[Aaron Beck]

Dean that seems like a good guess. 16g guns shading on one side or the other of 6.5 lbs with some overlap in the middle statistically. Long barrels, short barrels, balance, stock density, availability, schedule, gun maker mood etc, all likely a factor in frame selection at manufacture.