Full Length Tubes

[J. Scott Hanes]

I am contemplating adding 28 gauge full length tubes to my 20 gauge VH. Between the two major suppliers, Kolar and Briley, which would you recommend from experience and why?

[CraigThompson]

I think they both make a quality product . If I had to tip my hat to one it would be Kolar but that’s kind of a personal thing .

[Dave Noreen]

What is the point? Why spend money for tubes to shoot a more expensive shell with less shot? If you want to shoot 3/4-ounce of shot just shoot 3/4-ounce 20-gauge shells. Back when your VH was made our ammunition manufacturers offered several 3/4-ounce 20-gauge loads.

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[J. Scott Hanes]

Because I have a lot of 28 gauge ammo and don't have a 28 gauge Parker? :)

[CraigThompson]

Briley makes shorty tubes also well atleast for the 12 gauge perhaps they make shorties for the 20 as well .

[Bill Murphy]

20 to 28 tubes are fragile. I would not do the 20 to 28 thing.

[Dean Romig]

Sell the 28 ga. ammo and reinvest the money into 20 ga. ammo…





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[Mike Koneski]

When tubing a gun you need to go down two sizes for best results. So a 12 to 20 is fine. 16 to 28. 20 to .410. For certain bore sizes you can get away with dropping one size, but it's not optimal.

I use Briley for any full-length tubes. They custom fit the tubes for a specific bbl set. I also have them make the tubes with fixed chokes.

[CraigThompson]

20 to 28 tubes are fragile. I would not do the 20 to 28 thing.

I had a friend who shot of all things a Ruger Red Label 20 gauge at skeet and he had it tubes by Briley . I never heard him say anything negatively , except of course when he missed .

[keavin nelson]

I just had Briley do a set of full length 28ga for my Parker 16Ga Damascus gun. I like it quite a bit, with 3/4oz loads it breaks clays well.

[Jay Oliver]

I have never shot a gun with sub gauge tubes in it and to be honest I never thought I would like it.

However...I just picked up a 16ga DHE 30" Damascus with 28 gauge Briley full length tubes in it. The barrels have a few dents and likely have low wall thickness(which I had measured today). Here is the gun: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/975272749

I shot sporting clays today with the 28ga tubes and loved every second. The tubes add 6-8 ounces so you have a heavy field gun, but a great clays gun. I had skeet in the right barrel and mod in the left. I didn't miss much.

I am going to confirm wall thickness at the Southern, but will likely always shoot the original barrels with tubes and be on the lookout for another set of barrels.

I think the tubes add a whole new dimension. In fact I think I would shoot a few of my 10 gauge hammer guns more if they had 16ga tubes. It didn't take me long to become a fan...

[J. Scott Hanes]

Thanks for all the advice. I did not know about needing to be 2 gauges different but had not really researched the subject. At the price of the 28 ga ammo, selling them may be more practical, but I would only use the setup for hunting anyway. I am not a skeet guy! :)

[RonKiska]

Either tube set is fine. I have both brands for skeet (Kolar in a Remington 3200 and Brilley in a Perazzi MX3). Personally I like Kolar but they are both superb tubes and you can't go wrong with either brand.

From my experience and your last post, tubing for hunting will make a barrel heavy gun. In my skeet guns, which are heavier that a 20g SxS, I actually added about 6oz of weight inside the stock to balance the gun better. Makes a heavier gun but it balances well.

Lastly, for whatever reason, in both sets of tubes I have, the 28g tubes throw the best pattern and consistently have the best smashes. If I hadn't to shoot 1 gauge, 28g would be it.

[J. Scott Hanes]

Kinda the reason I was contemplating the 28ga tubes. Maybe I will look for a 16 ga to add to the addiction! I understand the weight issue for field use, but that is why I go to the gym!

[Michael Moffa]

I put 20 ga Kolar tubes in a '89 BH damascus 12. Other than the low shooting dimensions it does great at clays and scares the hell out of the other shooters shooting that dangerous damascus.

[Mike Koneski]

Briley offers the option of the lightweight tubes instead of standard weight. The lightweight are maybe 4-6 oz lighter. For clays I went with standard weight tubes. There is an upcharge for the LW tubes. I don't remember exactly what it is but $150 seems to stick in my craw.

[CraigThompson]

If and it’s a mighty big “if” , if you could find some gauge mate 20 to 28 chamber inserts that would be the easiest lightest etc way to go .

[CraigThompson]

You also could talk to Lou Rotelli he might be able to make you a set or two of 20 to 28 chamber inserts .