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Dylan Rhodes
04-20-2023, 10:35 AM
Hey everyone,

I'm fairly certain this won't fit into the "fine doubles" category, but I was wondering if any of the fine group members here happen to delve into some lower quality guns occasionally? Specifically, if anyone has some insight into the CZ bobwhite G2? Being of young age and good health I maintain a smattering of what I call "replaceable" guns alongside the older collectables, for those times I know I'm headed to hunt in a right proper mess of cover or a terrible weather day. These guns tend to take on some disproportionate cosmetic wear as you might imagine. Anyways, I have some Cabela's card points burning a hole in my pocket. Since the quality of just about everything in that store has seemed to go down the toilet and I am afraid to buy anything, I have nothing to spend them on, so the CZ caught my eye. Yes, they sell vintage guns in the used section, but it seems I could wait a millennium for something reasonably priced in that regard from them.

Joseph Sheerin
04-20-2023, 04:55 PM
I owned one, didn't care for it, it was the original version though.

I also bought one in 28 ga, that shot a good 8" to the left of POI... Sent it back after getting full refund.... Owner at my gun club, says he's seen a lot of issues with the CZ's and their support not so good.

Personally, I'd look around for a nice Smith & Wesson elite, I bought one of those, head and shoulders about the CZ guns. Made by Akus, the one good Turkish builder that I am aware of.....

There is a 20ga on GB right now up for auction, it's sitting at $1k right now... Might be worth keeping an eye on it. After that, the FAIR Iside basic would be another gun to consider.

Personaly, I steer cleer of the CZ guns.

SW Elite, I have no relationship to this seller, no idea on them. But, really happy with the Elite I picked up.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/982455780

Joseph Sheerin
04-20-2023, 04:57 PM
If they have some of the dickenson SxS's, they are same gun as the SW Elite, realizing you are wanting to burn cabelas bucks... :D

Brett Trimble
04-20-2023, 05:11 PM
I had a 28ga CZ and a friend had another. Used as “expendable” shooters in Mex. Both went “bang” and quail died. ;) Not the most beautiful, the hard chrome “case colors” can flake as I understand it - I didn’t have a problem.

Brett

charlie cleveland
04-20-2023, 06:09 PM
try a stevens model 311 American made and will last a life time of heavy use...charlie

Bob Hayes
04-20-2023, 06:43 PM
I have several ringneck CZ's and have shot both 1000's of rounds.I have several clients that also have shot a fair amount.I have never had an issue with any and both shoot where I aim.The 410 and 28 I have get a good workout every season.They are probably 10 years old with me now.

Dylan Rhodes
04-20-2023, 07:33 PM
All good comments so far. Thanks everyone. I’m not really caring for longevity honestly, I’ll give it the same care and love I give the rest of my guns but if the quality isn’t there and it’s kapoot in 10 years or less of brush crawling and downpours, you get what you pay for and i didn’t sully a collectible. What is Important is that it shoots straight, so thanks for that, I’ll be sure to pattern it immediately.

matt koepnick
04-20-2023, 08:49 PM
hey Dylan. have also owned several cz's . all were the ringneck variety. my last one is the new version ringneck with 30 inch bbls. it's an improvement over the earlier ones i had. all lasted at least 10 years or so with lots of shooting. no issues with any of them. newer oner have a flame hardening color added. seems to be a more durable finish than previous set up. so far no wear on coloring in the last 2 years of shooting and duck hunting. my only pet issue with my ringneck is it has only a single trigger.. plus as a 12 it uses standard beretta mobil choke system. my extended ones fit nicely. all steel shot compatable.

Andrew Sacco
04-21-2023, 11:29 AM
A guy in our gun club had one. About 25 rounds in I think the barrel lug broke off. They ended up giving him a new gun but it was a hassle. I don't think he's had an issue since. I'd get a Trojan that's worn. That'll be good for a few hundred more years.

Frank Srebro
04-22-2023, 07:56 AM
Dylan asked about the CZ Bobwhite G2 (Gen 2) that's head and shoulders above earlier Bobwhites that as I understand were made with parts sourced from a cooperative/multiple locations in Huglu, Turkey. CZ invested in CNC machinery in a modern dedicated factory and the Gen 2's I've seen and handled were well made and shot well. In particular the Bobwhite G2 "Project Upland" version in 28 or 20 gauge is an excellent Upland adaptation with side plates and better wood, along with 28" barrels, flush choke tubes, double triggers, extractors, straight grip stock with so-called modern dimensions and longish LOP. The barrels have a high and wide rib that creates a very distinct sighting plane. The PU version was a limited run and has now been discontinued starting 2023 but NIB guns can still be found hit and miss on GB, GI, etc. Lastly, pricing won't break the bank and you get a good factory warranty.

My advice is to put aside any cavalier thoughts and take an objective look at a CZ Bobwhite G2 smallbore if you get a chance.

Gerald McPherson
04-22-2023, 10:03 AM
I have a CZ Woodcock Deluxe 20 Gauge that I bought from an old skeet and clays shooter about my age who had to give up shooting because of health issues. When discussing it before I bought it he stated, It's a wonderful little gun. I will agree. It fits and hits for me better than any over/under I've ever shot. He also said he never had an issue with it, neither have I. Can't say that about a lot of Parkers, Brownings, Winchesters, Smiths and others. I can however say that about Ithaca SKB guns 280, 200, and 100's. I've enjoyed them all. Thanks. Gerald.

Rino Grassa
04-22-2023, 10:18 AM
I also have a CZ Ringneck 20ga....they are great guns for the money....and if youre patient, a lot of them have very nice Turkish Walnut with handsome figuring....killed many Huns, Sharptail, phez and Ruffs with it...it hits where I point all the time...the 5 chokes are a bonus and a great Dove gun ( Non Tox shot here in Canada for Doves)...ive had mine prob 15 yrs or more....zero issues...actually maybe one issue...the fake screws on the fake sideplates used to come loose all the time when shooting...a wee bit of locktite fixed that.

Mike Koneski
04-22-2023, 10:45 AM
We have a CZ Ringneck 20g on the rack here. 28" bbls, full set of choke tubes, semi-pistol grip, single trigger, very nice wood.

Dylan Rhodes
04-26-2023, 02:00 PM
Ultimately, I decided to pick one up. Things are starting off a little sketchy, when I took the forearm off for the first time a nice pile of reddish-brown debris fell out with it. Looking in there was some more between the barrels in the portion of the gap not covered by the rib. Naturally, I assumed this to be rust/corrosion. I called CZ immediately and was assured that this is just leftover flux from the soldering operation and that in no way will it affect the function or longevity of the gun. A quick google search seems that some others have had this experience with no adverse effects yet, but time tells all. Neat little 28ga for under 1k. Seems front heavy for some reason, even though the balance is right on the hinge. Will shoot it this weekend, as long as it goes bang and the POI is within reason, I will consider myself satisfied.

Rino Grassa
04-26-2023, 02:04 PM
Ultimately, I decided to pick one up. Things are starting off a little sketchy, when I took the forearm off for the first time a nice pile of reddish-brown debris fell out with it. Looking in there was some more between the barrels in the portion of the gap not covered by the rib. Naturally, I assumed this to be rust/corrosion. I called CZ immediately and was assured that this is just leftover flux from the soldering operation and that in no way will it affect the function or longevity of the gun. A quick google search seems that some others have had this experience with no adverse effects yet, but time tells all. Neat little 28ga for under 1k. Seems front heavy for some reason, even though the balance is right on the hinge. Will shoot it this weekend, as long as it goes bang and the POI is within reason, I will consider myself satisfied.
Nice a 28! what I also like about these Guns...they are built on scaled frames...that 28 is prob under 6lbs

Dylan Rhodes
04-26-2023, 02:06 PM
Nice a 28! what I also like about these Guns...they are built on scaled frames...that 28 is prob under 6lbs

its about 5lb 9 oz on my scale. The Tristar Bristol I have is a hair over 5 and noticeably lighter to the feel.

Mark Britton
04-26-2023, 10:14 PM
Hey Dylan Let us know how it shoots > And what you think .

Dylan Rhodes
04-28-2023, 01:08 PM
Last update from me: Seems to go bang. Did a little pattern testing witH RST pigeon loads - POI seems 3” low at 30 yards. A lot of that could be in me though, I only have a few English stocked guns and I’m usually a 14-14.25” LOP. 14.5 is pushing it. It’s good enough

Paul Frelier
05-10-2023, 06:35 PM
hello Dylan,
How does the CZ compare to the Bristol? thanks