BHE questions

[Phillip Carr]

I received the research letter on my BHE and I would like thoughts on the present configuration verses the letter.
Here are some pictures as well as the letter description.
It now has a non auto safety and well as a single trigger.
I also wish Bob Beach was still doing records research for G&H. I would love to have letters on now 3 high end guns that they may have records on.
Thanks for your thoughts.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

That is one fine gun Phil, One to be proud of, Gary

[keavin nelson]

Very nice gun Phil, no repair codes on the barrel flats?

[Reggie Bishop]

Not sure what trigger that is but it isn't a Parker Brothers single trigger. So I suppose someone converted the double triggers to a single trigger for a previous owner. Very nice gun though!!

[Phillip Carr]

No Remington repair codes on the barrel flats.

[Dave Noreen]

That could be a Parker SST with a special order selector slide? The long trigger in the right slot and the selector in the left.

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Perhaps the gun was back to Parker Bros. for a safety and the SST with a special selector slide.

[Phillip Carr]

Imdont recall the LOP being called out the way it is written in the letter. Are these measurements given for the different triggers positions?

[Reggie Bishop]

Imdont recall the LOP being called out the way it is written in the letter. Are these measurements given for the different triggers positions?

I have never seen LOP noted like that in a letter either.

[Dave Noreen]

I suspect that is 14 1/4-inch to the center of the butt, 14 3/8-inch to the heel and 14 1/2-inch to the toe.

[Brian Dudley]

The guns trigger may in fact be a Parker factory mechanism. It is hard to tell. But the selector is not factory at least. It could just be a modified version to make it easier to operate for the owner at the time.

The safety button is the later style, which would have come along after the gun was originally made. Also suggesting a return to the factory for its addition. Likely at the same time the single trigger was added.
The gun was made before the first style factory sst was offered.

[GunnerGrilli]

I interpret those LOP measurements the same as Researcher. That is a beautiful gun Phil, and thanks so much for sharing. The top lever is heavily engraved for a "B" Grade in my humble opinion. Very nice gun.


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[todd allen]

I'm guessing that gun has spent some time at a pigeon ring or two.

[edgarspencer]

Is the comb dead flat, as the letter states?

[Garry L Gordon]

And does it have the trap comb?

It's a wonderful gun...

[Phillip Carr]

Edgar thats a great question. It actually fit me pretty good.I only checked it after you asked, but the is about 1 1/2”and the DAH is about 2 1/4”. An extension has been added. I will address that shortly.

[Phillip Carr]

Here are some pictures of the comb.

[Chuck Bishop]

Length of Pull measured by 3 dimensions, heel-center of butt - toe from the front trigger if it had one.

[Garry L Gordon]

Here are some pictures of the comb.

I can’t tell for sure, but it it does not look quite like the two that I have that letter that way.

[Randy G Roberts]

I am pretty certain that is not a trap comb.

[CraigThompson]

I'm guessing that gun has spent some time at a pigeon ring or two.

For me only four things could make that gun any better in my opinion . First if it had left the factory with a beavertail forend , second if it had left the factory with a vent rib , third of it had left the factory with no safety and fourth if it were at MY HOUSE :whistle::rotf:

[Brian Dudley]

That is a pretty full comb for a B grade. But it is not as full as the letter makes it seem.

[Phillip Carr]

I pulled the trigger guard as I was curious as to what I would find. I believe it is a factory stock but very well may have been sent back for a replacement. I dont feel the stock is dark as requested by the buyer. Also I wonder who Clifford was.
Its been a hundred years so anything is possible. To bad there are not records on any work after initial delivery.

[Dean Romig]

The guns trigger may in fact be a Parker factory mechanism. It is hard to tell. But the selector is not factory at least. It could just be a modified version to make it easier to operate for the owner at the time.

The safety button is the later style, which would have come along after the gun was originally made. Also suggesting a return to the factory for its addition. Likely at the same time the single trigger was added.
The gun was made before the first style factory sst was offered.

True about the safety switch. That is the post-1917 style… and no, that is not a Parker Bros. (Meriden) trap comb.





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[Phillip Carr]

I don't recall what the trap comb looks like but I reread the letter and it states, extra full comb. So I believe the comb is not s trap comb otherwise they would have written the customers request up as, install Trap comb. Just as Brian observed and Comparing it to other straight grip parkers it is definitely a thicker comb.

[Dean Romig]

Phil, here are a couple of excellent pictures of a trap comb that Randy posted on another thread.


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[Phillip Carr]

Thanks Dean. My B definitely does not have a trap comb.

[Garry L Gordon]

My 1918 DHE 20 has an "extra full" comb (as stated in the letter). It does not look like my 1924 gun which resembles what Randy/Dean posted. It could be that the option evolved over time, or that there is a difference between the two -- extra full v. trap. Unfortunately, my 1924 gun has no surviving records, so I don't know what the comb style was called.

[Chuck Bishop]

Could it be that the comb of the stock has been sanded down from the original dimensions of 1 3/8" x 1 3/8" to what Phil measured at 1 1/2" x 2 1/4"? It just looks a little odd but it could just be the angle of the picture.

[Dean Romig]

Could be Chuck, but doing so would require the butt plate be replaced with one about 3/4” shorter.





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[Brian Dudley]

I think we simply are not seeing enough of the gun to come up with a very informed opinion.

[Chuck Bishop]

Dean, it has a wood extension.

[Dan Steingraber]

I've got a similar stock on a DH 16

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[Garry L Gordon]

Here's my 1918 DHE. It resembles Dan's.

[Dean Romig]

Garry, the nose looks more to me like a trap comb.





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