New BP 1044 wad

[Jeff Sweeter]

I received some of the new BP1044 wads a few days ago,which I am glad BP stepped up and made a wad available for the ten again.The plastic on the petals feels a little softer than the previous Pt1044 that I have a new bag of old stock to compare.Measuring the gas seal,the new wads measure several thousands smaller in diameter than the old ones and smaller yet than Remington SP10 wads I have on hand.The new wad fits OK in a new federal hull,but loose in a Cheddite or dark green Remington hulls I have.Could be a problem with powder migration.As I understand Clay Buster is making these,which I think are and have been top notch.I have in the past loaded shells that the wad didn't fit very tight and powder migration was an issue,and ended up putting a hard card wad beneath the wad to eliminate that.I had Tom Armbrust test this particular load,and it was in specs of where we wanted it,but a pain to load shells that way.I would think Clay Buster and or BP could adjust this wad possibly.Just my observations with the samples I have.Happy Reloading, Jeff.

[CraigThompson]

I ordered four bags just now thank you sir !

[CraigThompson]

My order just arrived , didn’t really need them but I’d been wanting to try these for a couple years .

[Jeff Sweeter]

Hi Craig, I just visited with Tom Armbrust yesterday about these.I measured the ones I got and tried them in several different brand new hulls and they fit a little loose in a couple.Powder migration might be a factor with some powders.Im going to load some up and send to him for testing,and probably place a nitro card over the powder under the wad.I have done this before and had Tom test them.He says pressure would probably be a bit higher just because of a better gas seal.Makes sense.Its one thing loading them and carry a few in your pocket verses shipping them several hundred miles for testing bouncing around in a truck for a day, powder migration could be significant.

[CraigThompson]

Hi Craig, I just visited with Tom Armbrust yesterday about these.I measured the ones I got and tried them in several different brand new hulls and they fit a little loose in a couple.Powder migration might be a factor with some powders.Im going to load some up and send to him for testing,and probably place a nitro card over the powder under the wad.I have done this before and had Tom test them.He says pressure would probably be a bit higher just because of a better gas seal.Makes sense.Its one thing loading them and carry a few in your pocket verses shipping them several hundred miles for testing bouncing around in a truck for a day, powder migration could be significant.

At the moment I'm loading RST's using SP-10's for a friend , it's my intention after getting his hundred taken care of I wanna try four or five of the BPI wads in both the REM and RST hulls . My standard charge of 30 grains of SR725 shouldn't be an issue in either hull with 1 1/4 ounces of shot and a couple red beans to take up space . I had the powder migration deal with 8 gauge WIN hulls using the SP-8 wad but that was more of a matter of displaced air pushing the powder as they were being loaded . They however break targets alright and once those hulls have been fired once you can't see the powder migration so easily .

These BPI wads are more of a I wanna try them type thing . I'd wanted a few bags when they were still made by Gualandi and had them on back order at a couple places for over a year . I've got more than enough SP-10's to least me the rest of my existance I think , seems to me I now have between 6 to 7 1/2 thousand SP-10's .

[Randy G Roberts]

I've got more than enough SP-10's to least me the rest of my existance I think , seems to me I now have between 6 to 7 1/2 thousand SP-10's .

And more on the way as I recall :)

[Mike Koneski]

I have used those PT1044 wads in the past. I had them and when I needed SP-10 wads I used them as a stop-gap until I had more SP-10s. Some of my load data for the 10 calls for the 1044 wad for some of my hunting loads so I keep them in inventory anyway. They perform just fine. I see no difference between the 1044 and the SP-10 for my usage.

[CraigThompson]

And more on the way as I recall :)

No my total was including the half case from you :rotf:

[CraigThompson]

Finished up the ones for a friend so I just loaded two RST’s and two REM’s using the 1044 wad . Took one extra red bean to get the crimp to suit me . I’ll try them out at home this afternoon .

[CraigThompson]

Well obviously I don’t have the lab that Armbrust had , but I just fired all four shells out of a circa 1887 with factory 26” open choked barrels and the sounded pretty much the same and the recoil was pretty much the same . :whistle:

[Jeff Sweeter]

Good to hear.Ive loaded some 1 1/8 oz trap loads with the old wads before but haven't used them for anything else.

[CraigThompson]

Good to hear.Ive loaded some 1 1/8 oz trap loads with the old wads before but haven't used them for anything else.

I used to do 1 1/8 ounce 10 gauge loads with 18.6 of Red Dot and they were quite pleasent but I’ve liquidated all the Red Dot I had . But to be totally honest I like the 1 1/4 ounce load . It’s a load Ross Seyfried published in Handloader magazine about thirty years ago . He was shooting it in a W&C Scott crystal indicator 10 gauge exactly like the one I have that used to belong to my grandfather . Granted I’ve changed the card wads for red beans but it still the same basic load .

[Keith Doty]

I shot a fair number of the original BP1044s, had some tested with identical loads vs. SP10s. They produced slightly less pressure and very similar velocity. I have about a half bag left, plenty SP10s but thinking on ordering some of the new ones to try.

[Paul Harm]

I still have a bag of the old ones. As I remember all the 10ga wads fit very loose be they Remington or BPIs. I at one time that now seems like years ago called RST commenting on the loose fit. He just laughed and said " how do you think we get such low pressure loads "?

[Bill Murphy]

My answer to any similar question is "It's a shotgun, don't worry about it."