28ga Two Barrel Set

[Brett Trimble]

A friend of a friend has a Repro 28ga 2 barrel set he wants to sell. I’ve attached a couple of pictures. I’m interested in buying the gun. I haven’t seen them in person but will in a couple of weeks.

From what you see in the pictures what would the approximate value be?

I’m seeing listed prices in the range of $9k on auction sites.

Best,
Brett

[John Dallas]

Guns being offered for sale should be in the Members only section with a price being asked

[Brett Trimble]

Sorry I wasn’t clear. I’m interested in buying the gun and want to get some advice on what a fair price might be from the experts here.

I just changed the original post to make that clear.

Best,
Brett

[Dean Romig]

Handsome piece of wood!
What are the barrel lengths and their respective chokes?





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[Brett Trimble]

Dean,

26” IC/M
28” M/F

kind of looks like burl. I like the configuration also; SG/DT/Splinter..

Brett

[Dean Romig]

I may be all wet but IMO that $9k is a hopeful figure. If I were wanting to buy it I would offer $7,500 - $8,000. But that’s just me…





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[Brett Trimble]

It’s kind of hard to put a value on the second set of barrels. I guess it’s what the market will bear.

[Dean Romig]

If I were in the market for a two-barrel sed 28 gauge Repro I would want to find one in Q1 & Q2 and Mod & Full.





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[Brett Trimble]

Good point. I would be tempted to open the chokes on the longer barrel set, honestly.

[Dean Romig]

I wouldn't open the chokes on that gun, it would diminish the value by $1,000





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[Brett Trimble]

Ouch!

[CraigThompson]

I may be all wet but IMO that $9k is a hopeful figure. If I were wanting to buy it I would offer $7,500 - $8,000. But that’s just me…

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I’d like it mo-betta at $6000-6500 .

[Kenny Graft]

I think prices have jumped way up from the 6500.00 that was the norm pre inflation for a nice two barrel set. I might pay 7K if I wanted it and I think that is all the money!, and that would depend on the chokes, stock dimensions and such. The pictured gun is very nice and if stocked correctly a guy may spend 7500.00 and still be happy. Opening chokes if properly done does not affect value of the used guns that much. I feel the only choke that really needs cutting is the full as they were way over choked from the factory at .033-.038 I had my 28" barrels opened from .014/.033 to a usable .003/.020 = Skeet 1 and full. When grouse hunting, I like a 28gauge gun with 28" barrels and grouse chokes. If you want a Skeus parker for hunting that has that over choke barrel, this is what needs to happen. Note: the barrel flat is marked full, recut to .020 is still FULL.....(-: Thanks all, SXS Ohio

[mikeschneider]

I’m going to have Eyster open my .035 “full” barrel to around .020 this spring, and I thought the same thing, it’s still basically full choke…

[tom tutwiler]

Falling into the FWIW category, there was a 28 gauge in yesterday's auction with Beavertail forearm, DT, choked Q1 and Q2 with 26" barrels in case that hammered for 7K, plus $1,400 for the BP. $8400 total.

[Dean Romig]

Tom - that’s just like the one I’m putting together with the straight stock I bought from Brian Dudley.
But mine will have both the SG and the PG for future generations to choose from… It’s going to be willed to my granddaughters.

I had purchased the gun for Kathy. With the BTFE and the PG she loved it and was learning to shoot with it. I had used her Q1 & Q2 barrels and BTFE coupled with my DT and SG back end for some of my VT bird hunting.

I will be sending both stocks to Geoffroy Gournet for engraving of the initial ovals with the following instructions.


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[Bill Murphy]

Tom, yesterday's auction was a strange situation with "A rich man and his money are soon parted." I hesitate to use the word fool, but the price was a couple thousand too high for a 26" Repro. The previous posters' advice is well chosen. However, the pictured gun is beyond exceptional in features as well as wood.

[tom tutwiler]

Tom, yesterday's auction was a strange situation with "A rich man and his money are soon parted." I hesitate to use the word fool, but the price was a couple thousand too high for a 26" Repro. The previous posters' advice is well chosen. However, the pictured gun is beyond exceptional in features as well as wood.

Bill, I think the buyer may have been smitten with the Beavertail forearm, DT and Q1 and Q2 chokes. That combination is really hard to find. I have the same thing, but with the splinter forearm. Took me about 3 years of auction watching to find it. I did however pay far far less then what this gun sold for.

[Dean Romig]

I edited my last post.





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[Joseph Sheerin]

There is what appears to be a pretty nice 2 barrel set 28ga on GB right now, starting price $6800, Buy it Now $7100........ If that helps at all.

[Brett Trimble]

Joe, would you please post a link or the auction number? I can’t seem to find it on GB..

Best,
Brett

[Joseph Sheerin]

Joe, would you please post a link or the auction number? I can’t seem to find it on GB..

Best,
Brett

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/969167948

[Joseph Sheerin]

The one you are looking at, is a straight grip, two trigger gun... Which, IMHO is more desireable than the PG stocked single trigger I just posted, so take that into consideration. Oh, and the one I posted appears to be beavertail forearm, I'd definetly call before buying that one, as he didn't post dimensions, or barrel configs. but, looks like a nice gun.

[Brett Trimble]

Joe,

Agree on all counts. I’m always surprised at listings that don’t include basic info like choke constrictions and stock dimensions!

Best,
Brett

[Bill Murphy]

That gunbroker gun is beyond nice. All my Repros have double triggers but this one would tempt me.

[Dean Romig]

Has anybody called them to ask for the chokes and other specs?


I just called and got the indoor range. The gun store is closed today but will open tomorrow at 10 a.m.





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[David C Porter]

Look @ picture 5 half way up the barrel next to center rib; looks like big spot of bluing loss

[Brett Trimble]

I sent a message to the seller via Gunbroker asking about chokes and stock dimentions. His response was messy but from what I can gather the 26” barrels are Q1/Q2 and the 28” barrels are M/F. LOP is 14in.

[David C Porter]

I emailed the seller asking for details & about photo #5 showing bluing damage on the bottom of the 28" barrel. I asked 3 times for a photo of this area. He did answer my other questions, but would not send me a picture of the questioned area.

[Brett Trimble]

No bueno!

[Greg Baehman]

I wouldn't open the chokes on that gun, it would diminish the value by $1,000.
To a certain extent, I agree with Dean that opening the chokes on the 28” M/F set of barrels of a Parker Reproduction DHE 28ga. 2-bbl. set would diminish the value by $1000. — it could be even more than that!

Look at it this way: You’re buying a 2-bbl. set for 2-bbl. set money and diminishing your value for the other set of barrels to near nothing. I believe it’s unwise to pay 2-bbl. money and get a 1-bbl. set of value out of it. I love the orig. M/F chokes on my 2-bbl. set when shooting 5-Stand — lead those 50 yard high crossers by a canoe length and watch ‘em go “POOF”.

[Daniel Carter]

Looked at the photo of the barrels and to my eye it seems to be more serious than a bluing blemish. I am no expert by any means but it appears to be a fault in the rib that an attempt was made to correct. Would have to see in person but seller says sale final and that raises another flag. This is in photo #6 as i count them, on the underside of the barrels by the rib.

[Dean Romig]

I sent a message to the seller via Gunbroker asking about chokes and stock dimentions. His response was messy but from what I can gather the 26” barrels are Q1/Q2 and the 28” barrels are M/F. LOP is 14in.


Those chokes make that gun far more desirable to me!!




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[Dean Romig]

Definitely worth further investigation! If he won’t provide better more detailed pictures of this area I would steer far away from it… especially with no possibility of returning the gun.


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[Daniel Carter]

Expanding the photo from Deans post it looks like a rib problem and an attempt to add filler to a gap of some sort.

[Russ Jackson]

Okay fellas , I put this gun om my watch list the day it was listed and I have never had any dealings with this seller but just a Heads Up ,there are now two of these listed on his site ,but they sure look like the same gun to me ! If you look up Gun Broker Item # 969657115 you will see it has seven days left , then if you look up item# 969167948 you will see it has 4 days left but both guns have the same flaw in the bottom rib !!!! Is it just me or is something fishy about this auction ???? :eek:

[Dean Romig]

No, it's not just you Russ!





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[James L. Martin]

Very fishy

[tom tutwiler]

I would steer away for sure. While his ratings show as being good, if you deep dive you will find some bad ones.

[Brett Trimble]

I saw the gun from my original post today. The “case coloring” is mostly worn off the receiver and on the forearm latch. The stock has marks from handling/hunting and one fairly deep nick near the stock oval. The finish on the buttstock is “rippled” for lack of a better term. The underlying wood appears to be burl and may have shrunken/changed shape over time.

Otherwise very nice. Long barrels are choked f/m, short barrels m/ic. Stock is 14.25, 1.5, 2.25. With a slip on pad it fits me well enough.

I’m kind of inclined to pass. What would case coloring from Turnbull cost, approximately? Does anyone know if the stock finish could be improved without completely stripping?

All ideas welcome!

[James L. Martin]

I would not worry about the case coloring as they wear off easily, or a nick in a used hunting gun. Don't know about the ripple with out seeing it. I have a single barrel 28ga repro with double triggers and they are hard to find. Since it's a used gun I would like to pay around $6500. Just my opinion

[Brett Trimble]

James,

The gun is on “consignment”. He’s asking $9,500. If I could get it for $6,500 I probably would. That seems like a pretty big gap to bridge.

Best,
Brett

[James L. Martin]

Yea $9500 is too much

[Rex Northen]

This set appears to be new... Check out the receipt!

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/parker-shotguns-reproduction/parker-dhe-28ga-2-bbl-set-cased-straight-hand-double-triggers-rare-configuration-with-original-sales-receipt-.cfm?gun_id=102223973

[Bill Murphy]

$2695 was the closeout price at Jaqua's, Guns Unlimited, and Cape Outfitters. A great piece of Parker Repro history. Not a bad rate of return.

[John Dallas]

Assuming an inflation rate of 6% The price would double every 12 years. 24 years later, the closeout price today would be $10,780

[David C Porter]

I would double check on the choke measurements. Listing says 26" barrel, Imp cyl= .003, Mod= .031--- 28" barrel, Mod= .020, Full= .040. These numbers seem way off, chokes may not have been measured acurately or they have been altered. Listing also says near new, not new

[Bill Murphy]

John, the difference is that in those days, I had $2695. Today, I don't have $10,780 handy. I am happy with my $2695 Repro and its rate of return.

[John Dallas]

Bill I agree. Staring at a safe deposit box ain't as much fun as fussing with these guns

[Arthur Shaffer]

$2695 was the closeout price at Jaqua's, Guns Unlimited, and Cape Outfitters. A great piece of Parker Repro history. Not a bad rate of return.

I was in Jaquas regurlarly during that period and there were a lot of them for sale. When I first saw them they were stacked 3 feet high boxed up in the middle of the store. They took a while to sell, and if I remember when the stack got pretty short they were $1895 in the store, but I may not be correct.

[Bill Murphy]

Yup, the one barrel guns were $1895. The two barrel sets (with beavertail ?) were $2695. I wanted a one barrel set, but none of the dealers had one barrel 28" 28 gauges with double triggers. Guns Unlimited had three two barrel sets with beavertail, straight grip, and double triggers. The lady taking my order opened all three boxes and picked the one she liked the best and sent it to me. Years before the closeout, two friends bought 28 gauge, 28", splinter, double trigger guns with consecutive serial numbers. Another identical consecutive numbered gun was offered, but I wasn't up to the $3370 retail price because I had a BHE .410 on order with no idea what that one would cost. Just last year, the third consecutive gun came up on Gunbroker and I ended up buying it. The second one of the first two ended up with one of my friends. Some day I may end up buying those two.

[John Dallas]

I always enjoyed dealing with Bill, Cam and Neil

[Greg Baehman]

Here's one of the closeout advertisements:

[Bill Murphy]

The posted ad for $1995 included the $100 surcharge for single trigger because no double triggers were available at that point in single barrel sets. Other ads listed the one barrel sets at $1895. Note the $100 surcharge for a 12 gauge gun. Thanks for the great ad.

[Greg Baehman]

The posted ad for $1995 included the $100 surcharge for single trigger because no double triggers were available at that point in single barrel sets. Other ads listed the one barrel sets at $1895. Thanks for the great ad.
Would you please post one of those ads, Bill?

[Jean Swanson]

To all

I have owned a lot of Parker guns & a few repos, just remember one thing about all of them " an iffy gun will always be an iffy gun "!!!!! During my collecting life, I have WALKED on a lot of iffy guns. The climb was not worth the view .

Best
Allan

[Bill Murphy]

Greg, I think most of the closeout ads were for $1895. This ad just posted is the first one I have ever seen that mentions $1995. We have a file of Repro paper somewhere on this site.

[Bill Murphy]

I can't find an $1895 closeout price in any ad in our PGCA collection, although I did find a $2095 ad. I will keep looking for the $1895 ad.

[Greg Baehman]

Along with the $2095 price for the ST Repros you likely missed the $1995 price for DT Repros, as shown below. I don't believe you're going to find a closeout ad listing the DT guns at $1895. I know we "Never Say Never" in the Parker World, but I will say this -- I have never seen a Closeout Parker Reproduction ad listing a DHE DT 20 or 28ga. Repro for $1895. -- they've all been listed at $1995. I would hope that someone would prove me wrong and post a pic of one of these ads as I'd love to expand my knowledge . . . but I'm not holding my breath. :corn:

[Bill Murphy]

I am probably wrong about the $1895 ad. It's hell getting old.

[Brett Farley]

I grew up in NW OH and when I was home visiting family would always make a trip to Jaquea’s. On one of those trips I went through about 15 of those repros to pick out the two 20 gauges that went back to FL w/me. Wish I had been smart enough to buy DT/BT guns and a 28 gauge as well. Neal was very accommodating as I looked at the wood and selected the guns I wanted. Had I only known I should have bought 5 or 6 of them and held on to them!!! Live and learn. Brett

[Greg Baehman]

Brett, how about posting some pics showing us the wood in the “Let’s see some wood!” thread of those two 20ga. Repros you picked out at Jacqua’s? I’m sure many here would like to see them!

[CraigThompson]

When Jim Tyrell was the manager at F.R.&G.C. he came to a skeet shoot at Piedmont Sportsman’s Club and brought along some stuff for sale . This was when the Repro’s first hit the market . He had a Repro 28 seems to me it was 26” IC/M or Q1/Q2 and a single trigger . Seems to me he was asking $2095 or $2195 . I fingered that gun quite a bit but wouldn’t bite . He also had a Winchester 23 Classic also in 28 gauge , I did bite for the Winchester seems to me I paid $1200 for the 23 .

[allen newell]

You got that right Bill

[Jeff Kuss]

Here is an ad from the American Rifleman that I don't remember.