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Rick Riddell
01-12-2023, 07:31 AM
Are hammer guns generally heavier than hammer less guns? I picked up a grade II top lever that comes in at 8 lbs, letter confirms the weight. What I find interesting is it’s on a 1 frame, 30 inch barrels with unstruck barrel weight at 3.1. Seems like a lot of weight.

Brian Dudley
01-12-2023, 07:34 AM
Yes, 8lbs for a 1 frame gun is very heavy.

Not that it could not happen. I once saw a 2 frame 12g gun with a cannon breech that weighed more than most 3 frame guns. Over 10 lbs.

Rick Riddell
01-12-2023, 08:32 AM
That’s wild, I’ll have to check the stock to see if it’s weighted.

Aaron Beck
01-12-2023, 09:10 AM
how does it balance?

Rick Riddell
01-12-2023, 09:29 AM
Typical Parker balance, right at the hinge. The weight seems to be centered. I’ll be coming around in Feb. I’ll let you know and I’ll bring it with me.

Dean Romig
01-12-2023, 10:59 AM
I have a 1-frame 12/30 T/A hammergun that currently weighs 7.54 lbs. that has had no alterations whatever other than some very professional refinishing. I can’t imagine it has lost nearly 1/2 lb. of moisture in the wood…

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Rick Riddell
01-12-2023, 11:20 AM
This is mine, interesting dates and serial numbers....... hmmm. Yours must have been sitting awhile. C grades are very nice? I'll get an actual physical weight, I got a feeling it's 8lbs or over.

Parker shotgun, serial number 44446, was completed on March 21, 1884. According to Parker Bros. Stock Book No. 16, it was a Quality G, Top Action Hammer Gun, 12-gauge. It featured Damascus steel barrels with a length of 30 inches. Its stock configuration was a pistol grip. According to Parker Bros. Stock Book No. 16, its specifications were: Length of Pull: 14 1/4”, Drop at Heel: 2 1/2”, Weight: 8 pounds. The chokes were patterned RH full and LH full.

Aaron Beck
01-12-2023, 12:09 PM
Yeah, stop by for show an tell. The woodcock wont be safe as far as the eye can see.

Dean Romig
01-12-2023, 12:32 PM
Yeah, stop by for show an tell. The woodcock wont be safe as far as the eye can see.


That's the truth! I researched the gentleman who originally ordered mine and I found this newspaper clipping on him...


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Ed Blake
01-12-2023, 12:55 PM
My Grade 2 12 letters at 9.6lbs. It’s on a #2 frame.

Dean Romig
01-12-2023, 01:13 PM
Wow Ed - that IS heavy!!





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Ed Blake
01-12-2023, 03:26 PM
The barrels are stupendous

Dave Noreen
01-12-2023, 08:24 PM
The barrels for my heavy 12-gauge, Grade 2, 2-frame, hammerless are stamped 58. A lot of the 2-frame 12-gauges I've checked are in the 315 to 43 range

Dean Romig
01-12-2023, 08:44 PM
Do you have a letter on that one Dave?





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Dave Noreen
01-13-2023, 04:28 PM
It is the gun with the later added set of 32-inch Vulcan Steel 20-gauge barrels.

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Jay Oliver
01-13-2023, 10:45 PM
I have a 12 gauge TA #1 frame grade 0 hammer gun with 32" twist barrels that weighs 8lbs. 4 oz. It does feel a touch muzzle heavy, but it is a great shooter and fits me well.

CraigThompson
01-14-2023, 02:13 AM
Today I’m using a Grade 2 three frame 10 gauge with 32” barrels at a semi local tower shoot . The gun was restocked with a straight grip before I acquired it with very dense American walnut and weighs about 10 1/2 pounds . It’ll most likely be used for the hammer challenge at Sanford and quite possibly the 10 gauge challenge . Gun has if memory serves 1 1/4” at the comb and 1 1/2” at the heel . I do fairly well with it if I have my head screwed on correctly .

Mike Koneski
01-15-2023, 08:53 AM
That's neat! I grew up about 5-10 minutes from Seisholtsville.

Dean Romig
01-15-2023, 10:14 AM
That's neat! I grew up about 5-10 minutes from Seisholtsville.


Are there still woodcock there Mike?





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