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William Parks
11-14-2022, 11:22 PM
I'm looking to load some 12ga 2 3/4" bismuth loads for waterfowl to shoot through my D grade with 30" full barrels. Considering #5 or #4 shot, can anyone help with the following?

1. I have Remington gun club shells and Longshot powder on hand. Any critiques/suggestions for utilizing those in the recipe?

2. I've seen plenty of loads going above 1oz while maintaining lower pressures, is there a reason I should stick with 1oz loads or is it safe to go up to 1 1/4oz?

Paul Harm
11-16-2022, 11:34 AM
Funny you should ask. I just came from www.shotgunworld.com reloading forums and a fellow shows a picture of Claybusters 6114-12 wads [ 1 1/4oz ] with Longshot or Universal and Bismuth in the 7 to 8000psi range. Just what you're looking for, and they're tested loads.

William Parks
11-16-2022, 11:44 AM
You have a link to it perhaps? And what is the general consensus on a 1 1/4 oz load for damascus rather than 1oz? Any concern?

Paul Harm
11-16-2022, 11:58 AM
I edited my post - hope it gets you there. It's shotgun world.com, reloading forums, thread is CB-6114-12 wads.
I don't see what difference it would make if it was 1oz or 1 1/4oz of shot in a Damascus or fluid steel barrel gun. What might make a difference is the pressure, and at 7 to 8000psi you're pretty safe. I don't like shooting heavier loads because I don't like the recoil. It's just nice to see if someone wants to shoot heavy hunting loads and still have lower pressures they can.

matt koepnick
11-22-2022, 07:34 PM
hi guys. looked up that thread from paul (many thanks sir) , and printed off the recipes listed. primarily i am interested in the 7400 psi low pressure load with 1 1/4 #4 bismuth and federal goldmedal grand hulls. and so it began...
rounded up almost all the needed components and have gotten down to the last elusive piece, the hulls. i have been searching for about a week to get the plastic gold medal grand hulls either as factory loaded or once fired empties but have come up empty handed. 1 1/4 load bar and rest of the stuff all came relatively easy.
yesterday in my travels i found huge supply of 4lb kegs of powder including longshot,at local cabelas here in columbus. nicely surprised at how much powder and the varieties they had in stock.
anyway, i would be grateful to get steered in the right direction by some one as to where to get the last piece of the puzzle, the hulls. every major distributer i know of and use shows not avail in either form. may be waiting till spring when federal loads up some more. thanks all.
happy thanksgiving. matt k