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Phillip Carr
08-31-2022, 10:46 AM
I have been trying for some time to get information on a Boxlock Midland shotgun. From what I can determine from the proof marks it was made in 1954. I bought the Midland Gun Company book written by Guy Smith but quite honestly there is not a lot of information there.
Would it be possible that some one with a DGJ index could refer me to any articles on the Midland shotguns.
Also any additional feedback is welcome.

Phil Yearout
08-31-2022, 11:31 AM
Vol 1, Issue 1; Vol 12, Issue 2; Vol 13, Issue 2; that's all I see if I'm reading it right. Bob Hinman's books says, "Midland Gun Co., English made at Demon Gunworks of Birmingham."

Phillip Carr
08-31-2022, 11:36 AM
Thank you Phil I will see if I can buy these. Although Im gu swing Vol. 1 issue 1.might be a difficult one to find.

Dave Noreen
08-31-2022, 07:03 PM
Cornellpubs has reprinted about fifteen different Midland catalogs from 1914 to 1962.

Phillip Carr
08-31-2022, 10:04 PM
Thank you Dave I will have a look.

charlie cleveland
09-01-2022, 03:53 PM
there also was an American midland gun company but they never built high grade guns more like the stevens guns...charlie

Arthur Shaffer
09-02-2022, 09:09 AM
I bought a really nice Midland a little while back, and was able to identify the model exactly from the sketches and descriptions in the catalog I got from Cornell. I don't have it here, but I believe it was one of the pre-WW I issues. They are really good as catalogs go. My uneducated take is that they are pretty easily identified as to model by looking at the engraving pattern and option list.
Surprisingly, the gun I purchased was the second highest grade boxlock. In looking through the catalog, I ws surprised at the modest upgrade price between grades and the large differential between the boxlock and sidelock versions. The latter didn't surprise me, but the former did. There would have been a lot of incentive at the time to buy a top of the line within the style.

Phillip Carr
09-02-2022, 11:43 PM
I ordered a 1949,catalog tonight. Hopefully it will show this gun. Would some of the knowledgeable members look at the proof marks and see if they believe this gun was made in 1954. Crossed swords and B 1 and E I believe indicates 1954

John Campbell
09-03-2022, 11:28 AM
According to Nigel Brown in his British Gunmakers Vol. 3, the surviving Midland records are sketchy. But if this gun has a serial number, I might be able to give you a general date per Brown's listed info. I hope.

Arthur Shaffer
09-03-2022, 11:41 AM
According to Nigel Brown in his British Gunmakers Vol. 3, the surviving Midland records are sketchy. But if this gun has a serial number, I might be able to give you a general date per Brown's listed info. I hope.

Here is a link to the date codes.

http://www.hallowellco.com/birmingham_proof_house_date_code.htm

The EB is 1954. The 1 signifies the inspector's identity.