2 Barrel D grade

[todd allen]

A friend of mine who is a gunsmith, and an FFL just brought this home from an auction.
He is a shotgunner, but doesn't have much experience with Parkers.
This is in my opinion, a very interesting find.
I have suggested he join the association, and dive in.
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[todd allen]

Some more pics:
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[Dean Romig]

I kinda like the crescent where the initial escutcheon normally goes. I know of only one other Parker with a crescent initial plate and it is a D-grade small bore hammer gun owned by one of our esteemed long time members.








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[todd allen]

I don't know if it would ever have much value, but I think it would be a fun project.
The question is, why was it dismantled and put away?

[Bill Murphy]

I would buy that great gun. Someone has refinished, or at least stripped, the stock, eliminating that chore.

[Austin J Hawthorne Jr.]

Would be interesting to find out where all those metal shavings in the receiver came from. Bringing this one back will surely be a challenge.

[todd allen]

I would buy that great gun. Someone has refinished, or at least stripped, the stock, eliminating that chore.
I already tried. Not for sale. This is a friend that I've known for a while, and has been around Parker Guns a bit. (Thanks me)
I don't have his permission to talk about the acquisition, so can't go there, but my hopes are that he comes over and joins up.
This gun will make an interesting 1st step into Parkers.

[Brian Dudley]

A very early DH 2bbl set on a 1 frame. Whats not to like.?

[Dean Romig]

Needs to be entirely disassembled and given a sonic bath.





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[Joe Dreisch]

I just enlarged that picture of the innards. It appears to be fuzz from the case instead of metal shavings.

[todd allen]

The owner is currently waiting for admin approval under "Red Hill". So admin, if you see this, please get this done so we can get the story first hand. I think he would make great member!

[Arthur Shaffer]

I wanted to spray degreaser on the computer screen when I saw the one picture.

[Red Hill]

Test.

[Red Hill]

I don't know if it would ever have much value, but I think it would be a fun project.
The question is, why was it dismantled and put away?

I like knowing backstory, so I wish I could answer this question.
Sadly I have no information beyond a best guess.

Best guess: Strip and clean.
As noted the buttstock finish has been stripped and the pics showed the interior of the action.

The other guns I picked up were in various stages of poor repair/storage.

[Red Hill]

I kinda like the crescent where the initial escutcheon normally goes. I know of only one other Parker with a crescent initial plate and it is a D-grade small bore hammer gun owned by one of our esteemed long time members.


Interesting. I thought it was likely a later addition.

[Red Hill]

Needs to be entirely disassembled and given a sonic bath.



I don't have a sonic bath, but it was given a detail cleaning the old fashioned way.

Solvent, tooth brushes and cotton swabs.

[Red Hill]

Would be interesting to find out where all those metal shavings in the receiver came from. Bringing this one back will surely be a challenge.

Almost forgot to address this.
No metal shavings in the action. Not sure what looked like that, but I promise, there was no loose metal floating around.

Gun is now reassembled as shown in pic above. Both barrel sets lock up nicely and tight on face with lever centered.

[Dean Romig]

Interesting. I thought it was likely a later addition.



You can order a PGCA Research Letter on your gun right from our Home page. It may, or may not, address the crescent.





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[Red Hill]

You can order a PGCA Research Letter on your gun right from our Home page. It may, or may not, address the crescent.


Doing so while you were typing this. :cheers:

Went with the incentive and joined the PGCA for the discount...
I am losing track of how many collectors groups I have joined over the years. :smiley7:

[todd allen]

Good to see you on board! Have you weighed her yet?

[Red Hill]

Good to see you on board! Have you weighed her yet?

I have.
She is kind of beast.

7lb 2 oz with the 28" barrels.
7lb 14 oz with the 30" barrels.

[Dean Romig]

Those weights are about average for a 1-frame 12.
Itf it were a 16 it would likely be a few ounces heavier.





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[Red Hill]

Those weights are about average for a 1-frame 12.
Itf it were a 16 it would likely be a few ounces heavier.


Have a rack with some of my shotguns over my desk, so weighed them.

32" A Grade Fox 7lb 6oz
30" Remington 1900 Damascus Ejector 7lb 2 0z
30" German BLE (my bird gun) 6 lb 5oz

My others are locked up, but I don't remember any of the 12ga's going over 8lbs.

This Parker seems "heavy" from my perspective, but I am not that familiar with Parkers.

Wasn't the #1 frame one of the lighter 12ga offerings?

[Bill Murphy]

Yes, but there are heavy #1 frame gun as well as light ones. The barrels determine the total weight. Some barrels are straight cut, others are swamped in to lighten them.

[todd allen]

Red, have you explored the site much yet? There's lots of cool forums. Lot's of varied interests here.
For instance: If you want to share a custom Mauser build, just put it in "Off Topic".
It's refreshingly free of trolls and political stuff.

[Red Hill]

Red, have you explored the site much yet? There's lots of cool forums. Lot's of varied interests here.
For instance: If you want to share a custom Mauser build, just put it in "Off Topic".
It's refreshingly free of trolls and political stuff.

We'll see. I have really shrunk my online time.

She was dirty inside, but everything still functioned before I pulled her apart.

BTW - I'm sure you all know this, but Parker shotguns are crazy complicated on the inside!

[Mills Morrison]

Very interesting find with what appears to be a lot of potential. Keep us posted on the progress.

[Red Hill]

Very interesting find with what appears to be a lot of potential. Keep us posted on the progress.

Will post the letter when it arrives.

Not sure what I will do with the gun itself. The auction description and pictures were so poor, I didn't know for sure what I had purchased until I picked it up. I was on vacation so placed absentee bids instead of attending. Easiest answer would be to flip it, but I would need to do some research on current prices.

My retail/selling business has me swamped at the moment so I don't really have the time to take on the renovation.

Until the letter arrives it will sit.

[todd allen]

Depending on what your goals are for this gun, if you don't have the time to do the work yourself, there's a lot of talent here that can bring it back to its correct look.
I know you don't hunt as much as you used to, but this would make a fun clay killer.

[Red Hill]

Matches all information from the letter.

With help of Google, I suspect this is the gentleman who ordered this DH.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/19660332/ralph-worthington

[Dean Romig]

Seems to be.

I wonder what the chokes were on the first set of barrels. Not being mentioned they were likely the standard MOD/FULL or FULL/FULL and being a great area for duck shooting in the marshes of Lake Eire I wouldn't be surprised at all if they were F/F.

Harvey H. Brown, ore-shipping magnate of Cleveland, was president of the Pte. Mouilee Shooting Club for many years, which we read about in Jim & Barbara Marsh's book and advertised in the DGJ.

I have written an article with illustrations about one of H.H. Brown's Parkers, a Grade-6 hammer gun, which I will submit for publication in Parker Pages now that DGJ will no longer be published.





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[Red Hill]

Seems to be.

I wonder what the chokes were on the first set of barrels. Not being mentioned they were likely the standard MOD/FULL or FULL/FULL and being a great area for duck shooting in the marshes of Lake Eire I wouldn't be surprised at all if they were F/F.



30"
R: .755" Choke: .030"
L: .755" Choke: .030"

28"
R: .752" Choke: .000"
L: .752" Choke: .025"

[Mills Morrison]

Do I understand the barrels are both the original lengths as stated in the letter? Two barrel sets I have seen often have one set that has been cut. Looks like the 28" set was ordered to be open for upland birds and the 30" set choked for waterfowl. A great combination!

[Red Hill]

Do I understand the barrels are both the original lengths as stated in the letter? Two barrel sets I have seen often have one set that has been cut. Looks like the 28" set was ordered to be open for upland birds and the 30" set choked for waterfowl. A great combination!

See previous post.

Matches all information from the letter.