Pricing Two Parkers

[Richard Muller]

Looking for advice on pricing 2 Parkers. These guns were owned by my great step grandfather, Charles Neuviller. I have included photos of the research letter for both guns. The DH 16 gauge, seems to be in original condition, except the LOP is 12 7/8" as my step grandfather was very short. He died in 1959 and I know this gun has not been shot since then. The VH 12 gauge has been refinished along with the LOP which is 13 7/8". Barrels have been cut to 25 7/8". As shown on the research letter, for the VH my great step grandfather returned it for repair in 1915.
Here's the back story, Charles Neuviller lived a life most of us can only dream of. My Great Grandfather and Mother owned silk mills in Paterson, NJ and after my great grandfather died, Charles married my great granmother. My great gandmother had been running the mill for some years, and wanted to continue doing so after remarrying. Charles had no interest in the business and just wanted to hunt and fish so that is what he did.
I would appreciate any guidance anyone can give,
Thank you,
Richard Muller

[Aaron Beck]

Not that its very helpful but if I owned a silk mill, id like to hunt with a DH like that.

[Bill Murphy]

The 16 has the remnants of a recoil pad. It was attached to the stock with those many nails, as was described in the instructions with the pad. The remnants and the nails must be very carefully removed and a new pad of vintage type can be installed in a way that doesn't require nails. What a wonderful gun. The VH is not a bad gun, just not original.

[Bill Murphy]

I believe the pad on the DH was one model of the Jostam pad, don't remember which one. The stock on the VH appears to have been sawed off at the comb and another piece added on, probably to decrease the drop. I can't imagine someone who would just want to hunt and fish.

[Craig Larter]

I can't read the letters from your uploaded images. I will take a wild guess. The DH 16ga appears to be a nice example but the cut short stock is a value killer, my guess is $4 to $4.5K. The VH is a basket case and would value it at $ 450.

[Pat Dugan]

1500 maybe, you have to find another stock for the
DH 16

[Bill Murphy]

Find another stock for the 16? You have to be kidding. The stock on the 16 is pristine and needs a good original style pad, nothing else. Did I miss something?

[tom tutwiler]

I have very little doubt this was the pad that was removed on the DHE. I had two in the original box with the original tacks included. Bought by a Fox Collector. I originally had 3 in the box and used one on a GHE 12 gauge that Dan Rossiter installed the pad on and yes, he used all the tacks. As I recall the first part of the pad it tacked on and then the second layer is actually glued on. Makes for a very impressive looking pad.

http://forum.foxcollectors.com/viewtopic.php?t=9583

[Dean Romig]

That DH 16 is a very nice example and I would be proud to own it. It’s got all kinds of original condition and I’m with bro Murphy about that stock… maybe not quite pristine but in excellent original condition with original checkering and if you can get a correct pad like Tom shows, even better. I’d shoot Tom a PM asking if he’ll part with that one - but if not, be patient, you’ll find something that is appropriate.





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[Donald F. Mills]

I agree with Bill and Dean and think that putting a pad on like Tom shows would bring the LOP back to what the research letter states. The letter was a little blurry when I enlarged it but I believe it states 14 1/4 LOP.

[scott kittredge]

I think i have the pad only that would glue to the piece thats on the gun already. Let me look and i will get back to you.
Scott

[scott kittredge]

I think i have the pad only that would glue to the piece thats on the gun already. Let me look and i will get back to you.
Scott
Yup, found it. Looks like nos it doesn't have the piece that its nail to the stock, but you have that already. If you want it just pay shipping from nh.
Scott

[edgarspencer]

The DH is just the way I like to find them. Still visible case colors, nice checkering, gorgeous barrels. If it were mine, I'd investigate have Mark Larson do his magic on a skillfully installed extension, with a skeleton butt plate. Sure, a recoil pad may get it to a shootable LOP, but they look totally out of place on an 0 frame gun. I have that exact gun, but with original, uncut stock and it is shear joy to shoot.

[Bill Murphy]

The stock is only a recoil pad away from original length. A Mark Larson extension and skeleton butt plate would cost a fortune.

[CraigThompson]

Gotta say I’d certainly have no problem living with a Jostam pad on the original stock . While I like the skeleton plates they also have a tendency to slip on my shoulder from time to time . I’ve got a nice little DHE 20 on an 0 frame with 30” barrels that I seem to shoot very well but it does slip occasionally . I also have a DH 16 32” also with a skeleton plate that’s slipped a time or two . However I can deal with the slips and could deal with the pad on this little 16 . Lord knows I don’t mind the recoil pads on my DH 8 34” , the DH 10 32” or the DH 12 32” Pigeon gun . Almost forgot I have a second DH 12 32” pigeon gun that has a skeleton plate and it’ll scoot out from time to time as well . For all the negative points of pads and or slips I still like them all just as they are .

[Richard Muller]

Hello Scott,thank you so much for your wonderful offer.I would however feel better if i could purchase the pad from you as i will be selling the gun as soon as i can come up with a price. I am in plainfield nh. Thanks again and let me know what you think. Richard