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Craig Larter
05-21-2022, 07:00 PM
It's been a productive 6 months for gun trading/buying me, but not much to report from a Parker standpoint. I sold two, I added a Grade 1 TLH with Laminate barrels 12ga 30" very nice condition on a 1 frame that weights 7-11.
How about you???

CraigThompson
05-21-2022, 07:10 PM
Hmmmm VHE 16 skeet 26” , VHE 12 vent trap 32” , Grade 0 top lever10 gauge 3 frame 32” . Belgium hammer 410 30” . Two High Standard 22 pistols an ML series Victor and a 107 series Trophy LNIB . I’m sure there’s others I just don’t remmember :whistle:

Reggie Bishop
05-21-2022, 07:22 PM
Four have come my way. All 20 gauge guns. Two 20s have found a new home.

Dan Steingraber
05-22-2022, 06:15 AM
It’s been about 8 months since I adopted my first Parker, a 20 GHE and she now has a family that includes a DH and GH 12’s, DHE,GH and VH 16’s and a VH 28. Some new cousins include an NID 20, Flues 28 and Sterlingworth 16. Oh, and a Crass 10 we get to meet at Haussmanns.

Harold Lee Pickens
05-22-2022, 06:48 AM
Been slow. I was able to add a beautiful set of 28" 20 ga Twist barrels to my 16 ga TL hammer 16 Quality O hammer gun.

Daryl Corona
05-22-2022, 07:28 AM
No new Parkers but a few "classics" in my mind. Sold a couple Parkers then acquired a classic Browning 1959 20, RNLT, a 20 and a 28 Perazzi. I did add a 30", 20ga. Fox A grade. Shooting a flat or more per week just puts a heavy strain on the old Parkers, Foxes and Lefevers to name a few. The Perazzi and the Browning can better handle the volume and if they break they are easily fixed.

Harold Lee Pickens
05-22-2022, 08:57 AM
"Shooting a flat or more per week"--no wonder you are such a good shot! I'm about 70 miles from sporting clays range, so dont get there too often.
I dont think you have shown us any pictures of that Fox 20 A 30".
See you at Ernies.

Garry L Gordon
05-22-2022, 09:11 AM
Craig, I like the word "adopted." I've been adopted by two Parkers, an AHE and BHE and a collection of original Parker catalogs. The Boss says I'm done for the year...and maybe beyond.:crying:

Mills Morrison
05-22-2022, 09:18 AM
Just a 0 frame 16 lifter so far

Jay Oliver
05-22-2022, 09:42 AM
So far I picked up 16ga Damascus GHE which has been a dream to shoot. Then a 410 VH which shoots way too good for a 410 and checks a Parker box I never thought I would be able to check. My wife says I am done for the year as well!

I would like to find a hammer 8 gauge so I could complete my Parker gauges(except for the 14 and 11).

Daryl Corona
05-22-2022, 10:41 AM
"Shooting a flat or more per week"--no wonder you are such a good shot! I'm about 70 miles from sporting clays range, so dont get there too often.
I dont think you have shown us any pictures of that Fox 20 A 30".
See you at Ernies.

It will be at Ernie's Harold. Some guys play golf, pickleball or checkers at the senior center after they retire. I prefer to shoot and fish. Any questions?:bigbye:

Garry L Gordon
05-22-2022, 10:57 AM
Just a 0 frame 16 lifter so far

Gosh, the word “just” doesn’t seem to belong in front of “0 frame Lifter.” :)

Scott Hornacek
05-23-2022, 02:39 PM
Grade 3 hammer gun in 12ga!!

Joseph Sheerin
05-24-2022, 10:39 AM
Picked up my first Parker 20ga, nice little Trojan from 1929.... Killed a fat tom with it in April. :D

Still looking for the right 16.....

edgarspencer
05-24-2022, 08:48 PM
Just a 0 frame 16 lifter so far

Just?

edgarspencer
05-24-2022, 09:03 PM
I sold a BHE12 to one member, and a DHE20 to another. The joy I get from their love of their new guns gives me as much pleasure as seeing them sitting in my gun room.
Gave away a 30" DHE16 to my daughter. Lots of joy there too, not to mention I had to go out and find a replacement (which I did)
Bought a DT SS BTFE 28ga Repro, mainly because it's SN was my birthdate. That wasn't enough to make me keep it, and I shot it like crap. That went to another member yesterday.
Several Winchesters found new homes, even more moved in. Oh and a couple Colts, but why, I'm not sure.

Mills Morrison
05-25-2022, 10:40 AM
The 16 lifter is coming to Hausman's.

Dan Steingraber
05-25-2022, 11:02 AM
Awesome. I’ll be picking up my first lifter there.

Rich Anderson
05-26-2022, 09:51 AM
I've sold off most of the pre64 M70's a Parker 16ga lifter, VHE 16 skeet, CHE 20, Fox CE 32 inch 12 and there are more to go.
Bought a few older Smith's a 617 and a 686 no dash's (22 & 357). At the Southern I picked up a DH 2 frame 32 inch 12, 20ga Trojan and a Winchester 1892 25/20. I spied a lovely CS Rossan 16 that was at the Poulin table and was the winning bidder on that. Also I have another rifle in the works. The action barrel and blank are in and work will start next month:shock:

Stan Hoover
05-26-2022, 10:30 AM
I’ve parted with 2 NID’s, a 20 gauge and a 410.

I was able to pick up 1 Parker, a Grade 3 20 gauge lifter, this is a great thrill for me. I’m still trying to forget the other Parker got away:cuss:, although having the 20 gauge lifter helps me to appreciate what I have.

I also picked up a 30” 20 gauge Flues, a former DuPont School gun, a 30” 16 gauge Ithaca hammer gun, and I’m anxiously awaiting delivery of a 30” 5E 20 gauge.

Stan

Mills Morrison
05-26-2022, 10:40 AM
A 20 gauge hammer gun is on my wish list. Lifter or toplever, just as long as I can shoot it.

Breck Gorman
05-26-2022, 01:19 PM
I picked up a 20g Sterly with 30” tubes. Had help from a member here restocking it and another member here provided Lyman ivory beads that I installed.
Also found a VHE 20g, double trigger, straight grip, 1 frame, 2 7/8” chambers and 32” tubes. Another member here sent the nickel silver stock shield that was missing. Now it’s complete, functioning perfectly and crushes long targets.
I told myself I didn’t need anymore 12g guns, but couldn’t help myself when I was offered a C grade with Bernard barrels.

charlie cleveland
05-26-2022, 06:06 PM
sounds like you have got a long range duck gun....charlie

Mills Morrison
05-26-2022, 08:57 PM
A magnum 20 is on my long term want list.

Randy G Roberts
05-26-2022, 09:14 PM
A magnum 20 is on my long term want list.

Interesting characterization, referring to the Magnum 20 that is. I believe Winchester referred to their 20 gauge 21's with 30-in barrels, 3-in chambers, choked full and full as a magnum 20. Did other American double gun makers refer to any of their 20's as magnums or something similar?

Mills Morrison
05-26-2022, 09:21 PM
There are a few 20 gauge Super Foxes.

Harold Lee Pickens
05-26-2022, 10:59 PM
Not a Parker , but looks like I've succumbed to the 28 ga hype. A 28 ga Dickinson 30" st grip will be picked up tomorrow. Has regular + extended choke tubes. Just happen to have 5 cases of old AA Skeet 9's that I bought at $40/case, so probably will be looking for a Mec loader. Hopefully have it at Hausmanns .

Dean Romig
05-27-2022, 12:25 AM
Trust me Harold, it's not hype. :whistle:





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CraigThompson
05-27-2022, 01:15 AM
There are a few 20 gauge Super Foxes.

Were the 20 gauge guns 2 3/4” or 3” ?

Craig Larter
05-27-2022, 06:01 AM
Only two out of 61 total SF 20ga guns are listed as having been made with 3" chambers.

Daryl Corona
05-27-2022, 07:11 AM
There are a few 20 gauge Super Foxes.

Not nearly enough were made Mills.:crying

Harold;

Dean is so right. Trust me on this one... a 30" 28 is like a magic wand in your hands. ( a 26, 28in 28ga. is pretty darn sweet too.)

Rich Anderson
05-27-2022, 08:51 AM
I have a BHE 32 inch straight grip 20 that has factory 3 inch chambers. Probably a California duck club gun. Interestingly enough it's on an O frame vs 1 frame. I don't recall Parker ever cataloging these as a magnum 20

Garry L Gordon
05-27-2022, 08:58 AM
I have a BHE 32 inch straight grip 20 that has factory 3 inch chambers. Probably a California duck club gun. Interestingly enough it's on an O frame vs 1 frame. I don't recall Parker ever cataloging these as a magnum 20

Darn it! Where’s that drool emoji when I need it.

Mills Morrison
05-27-2022, 10:27 AM
Not nearly enough were made Mills.:crying

Harold;

Dean is so right. Trust me on this one... a 30" 28 is like a magic wand in your hands. ( a 26, 28in 28ga. is pretty darn sweet too.)



Yeah, I am leaving the very few out there for others who really want them. A 20 gauge Parker hammer gun is rare enough for me.

CraigThompson
05-27-2022, 11:29 AM
Thirty inch 28 gauge 🤤🤤🤤🤤👍🏻

Mills Morrison
05-27-2022, 11:30 AM
Thirty inch 28 gauge 🤤🤤🤤🤤👍🏻

:shock::shock::shock:

:cool::cool::cool:

Jay Oliver
05-27-2022, 11:33 AM
Could one assume that a 20 gauge Parker made with 2 7/8" chambers was made for 3" shells? I have a 20 VH with 30" barrels that letters as having a requested chamber length of 2 7/8"

Reggie Bishop
05-27-2022, 11:34 AM
Could one assume that a 20 gauge Parker made with 2 7/8" chambers was made for 3" shells? I have a 20 VH with 30" barrels that letters as having a requested chamber length of 2 7/8"

Yes sir.

Bill Murphy
05-27-2022, 01:01 PM
Reggie is correct, although some customers specified 3" chambers, also obviously meant for 3" shells.

Harold Lee Pickens
05-27-2022, 02:50 PM
Picked it up this morning at Kenny Graft's shop(Sxs Ohio). Interestingly, I was there at his shop with Brett Hoops 2 years ago when the first owner picked it up, and I've wanted one since. 5lbs 13 oz with 30 in ejectors barrels with the xtended chokes in, plus came with 5 flush fit choke tubes, snap caps and case.

Bill Murphy
05-28-2022, 09:37 AM
My 32" Vulcan Steel #0 frame 20 gauge barrels, installed by Parker Brothers as a second set on an A-1 Special, letter with 2 7/8" chambers. My old, now gone, #2 frame VH 20 gauge barrels, serial number 153,333, letter as 3" chambers. Where is that gun now?

James L. Martin
05-28-2022, 10:33 AM
I have a 20ga DH 26" 6lb gun that was made for 3 inch shells per letter and hang tags. But back then it was a 7/8 oz load.

Garry L Gordon
05-28-2022, 10:41 AM
Now that gun, makes me envious. What do those pellet counts come out as in terms of choke? It looks like a nicely contrasting combination, well suited for upland game.

James L. Martin
05-28-2022, 10:52 AM
Garry the chokes are rt .017 & lt .029. Kinda tight with modern shells, I use 7/8 oz spreaders. It's a great gun.

Garry L Gordon
05-28-2022, 10:55 AM
Garry the chokes are rt .017 & lt .029. Kinda tight with modern shells, I use 7/8 oz spreaders. It's a great gun.

Oh, no!! I wish you hadn’t shown the stock. Now I’ve got a severe case of gun envy. :crying::bowdown:

Harold Lee Pickens
05-28-2022, 11:15 AM
wow, what a gun! It needs to get together with my DHE 16, cyl/M, also 6 lbs.

Jay Oliver
05-28-2022, 12:16 PM
Beautiful Harold! That is is one nice looking 16 gauge.

On those 3" 20 gauge shells, it seem like I read that they were more about the pattern than payload. Much different than want the 3" 20 gauge shell evolved into. That hangtag and box of shells show that that the 3" initially still had 7/8oz of lead. James, that is a wonderful Parker! So nice that you have the hang tags and it is such a good looking gun!

CraigThompson
05-28-2022, 12:50 PM
Beautiful Harold! That is is one nice looking 16 gauge.

On those 3" 20 gauge shells, it seem like I read that they were more about the pattern than payload. Much different than want the 3" 20 gauge shell evolved into. That hangtag and box of shells show that that the 3" initially still had 7/8oz of lead. James, that is a wonderful Parker! So nice that you have the hang tags and it is such a good looking gun!

I suspect you're 100% correct on the shells .

However I've got two flats of nice new Browning 20 gauge 3" shells holding 1 1/4 ounces of #5's that will be used in a Parker or Parker Repro with 2 7/8" or 3" chambers whatever the case me be at tower pheasants :whistle:

James L. Martin
05-28-2022, 01:18 PM
I suspect you're 100% correct on the shells .

However I've got two flats of nice new Browning 20 gauge 3" shells holding 1 1/4 ounces of #5's that will be used in a Parker or Parker Repro with 2 7/8" or 3" chambers whatever the case me be at tower pheasants :whistle:

Sounds like the recipe for a broken stock and shoulder.

Daryl Corona
05-28-2022, 02:47 PM
I suspect you're 100% correct on the shells .

However I've got two flats of nice new Browning 20 gauge 3" shells holding 1 1/4 ounces of #5's that will be used in a Parker or Parker Repro with 2 7/8" or 3" chambers whatever the case me be at tower pheasants :whistle:

They will pattern horribly Craig. One ounce is pushing it. Anything more than 7/8oz in a 20ga. doesn't yield any benefits. Follow me for more advice.:bigbye:

CraigThompson
05-29-2022, 12:16 AM
Sounds like the recipe for a broken stock and shoulder.

Hence the Jap Repro ! As to my right shoulder it’s been maimed for twenty plus years :rolleyes::rotf:

Keith Sirmans
05-30-2022, 02:27 PM
It's been a year for foxes for me

Bill Murphy
05-30-2022, 05:47 PM
7/8 times 350 equals X. 240 divided by X equals the pattern percentage of the 20 gauge. Doing it without a calculator seems to make the left barrel 77%.

edgarspencer
06-08-2022, 01:27 PM
This gun was briefly discussed in the thread about the Pachmayr Upgrade but didn't get a lot of attention. A member took the time to inspect it in great detail, including measurements and photos. I think many viewed it as a rebarreled gun, first, but I was using my pragmatic approach and viewed it as an original 16ga. Damascus, with an additional set of aftermarket 20ga barrels.
Built on a 1 frame, a slight departure from my apparent habit of buying 0 frame guns, it weighs a modest 6 pounds, 13 oz with the very high quality Joseph Just (Ferlach) barrels. The 28 1/2" barrels were Proofed for 3". This was done in 1963, according to the Austrian Proof house, and the gun was restored in a non traditional French Grey finish. The Just Barrel top rib is nearly identical to Parker matting.
The original 30" 16ga. Damascus barrels were preserved and will take some modest work. They fit within a few thous of closing because the joint roll was replaced when the 20ga. barrels were fitted. The bolt just begins to engage, so I am confident it will take minimal work to the hook to bring it back down.
I don't typically buy at auction, but Redding is an excellent house and one couldn't possibly ask for better service and packing.

Mills Morrison
06-08-2022, 01:36 PM
Your pictures beat the auction house. Very nice gun! Please post pics when you get the original Damascus barrels fitted.

CraigThompson
06-08-2022, 02:01 PM
I thought I was going to get out of Hausemanns without any gun buying . However after shooting the main event Saturday , I was casing the tent one last time and stopped at Robin Hollows tables . A what appeared to be large frame Parker Grade 2 top lever caught my attention . It was a 10 32” on a 3 frame that I had thought on a 4 or possibly 5 frame . Anyway the gun had been restocked with a very nicely figured piece of dark walnut in straight grip and it had the correct trigger guard with serial number although certainly not original . The new stock has what I’d call trap/pigeon dimensions . While I was drooling the gentleman pulled out a second set of Belgian made fluid steel 10 gauge 3 1/2” 32” barrels that had Briley thin walls . So to make a long story short it followed me home . Saturday I got one of the chokes out and it was lite mod , the other was to tight so I got it out Monday snd it was IC so I got on the horn with Briley and a wrench along with an IM and F are headed my way .

edgarspencer
06-08-2022, 02:14 PM
I forgot to include the letter, which is pretty interesting. As Jay pointed out, It's nice to return it to Connecticut. Dr. Andrew Bennett Gorham was a prominent family practice physician who apparently delivered every kid born in Wilton CT until his death in 1907.
The Boston Sportsman's Show wasn't exactly the Centennial Exposition, but it's still nice to have a gun Parker thought enough of, to put on display.

Dean Romig
06-08-2022, 02:36 PM
I thought I was going to get out of Hausemanns without any gun buying . However after shooting the main event Saturday , I was casing the tent one last time and stopped at Robin Hollows tables . A what appeared to be large frame Parker Grade 2 top lever caught my attention . It was a 10 32” on a 3 frame that I had thought on a 4 or possibly 5 frame . Anyway the gun had been restocked with a very nicely figured piece of dark walnut in straight grip and it had the correct trigger guard with serial number although certainly not original . The new stock has what I’d call trap/pigeon dimensions . While I was drooling the gentleman pulled out a second set of Belgian made fluid steel 10 gauge 3 1/2” 32” barrels that had Briley thin walls . So to make a long story short it followed me home . Saturday I got one of the chokes out and it was lite mod , the other was to tight so I got it out Monday snd it was IC so I got on the horn with Briley and a wrench along with an IM and F are headed my way .



I love that wood Craig! The color and figure are perfect for a hammer gun.

Here's a pin-lifter with similar wood.


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CraigThompson
06-08-2022, 03:08 PM
I love that wood Craig! The color and figure are perfect for a hammer gun.

Here's a pin-lifter with similar wood.


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Yours isn’t a restock correct ? I took the one I bought put it on my chariot drive to the truck got a box of 10 gauge 1 1/4 ounce then drove over to the Corona arcade and shot it in the Bo Whoop . It’s very pointable and if I do my part which is somtimey at best , it’ll reach out and crush targets !

Dean Romig
06-08-2022, 04:37 PM
Not my gun but I guarantee it's original in every way.





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CraigThompson
06-08-2022, 05:06 PM
Not my gun but I guarantee it's original in every way.





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I think I’m gonna let Danny Patton preform his voodoo magic on the wood and bring it out a bit . And if that’s comes out looking good the Damascus barrels more than likely will make the trip to SC for some voodoo magic as well ! Maybe even once it’s done have a voodoo blessing and tap them with the chicken bones:whistle::rotf:

Gary Carmichael Sr
06-08-2022, 08:06 PM
Well back to what was bought this year, First I sold several 20 ga Hammer guns, was the caretaker for quiet some time, now they reside in new homes and are well cared for! The new additions this year so far 12gauge A1 Spl, and a 20 ga A1 Spl up grade that was bought by Otis Odum according to the hang tag in 1981, Both guns from Josh, When he sends me photos I will post them, My camera met with a unfortunate death, fell of my gator and the disk I was pulling sort of chopped it up!

Dan Steingraber
06-08-2022, 08:44 PM
Well back to what was bought this year, First I sold several 20 ga Hammer guns, was the caretaker for quiet some time, now they reside in new homes and are well cared for! The new additions this year so far 12gauge A1 Spl, and a 20 ga A1 Spl up grade that was bought by Otis Odum according to the hang tag in 1981, Both guns from Josh, When he sends me photos I will post them, My camera met with a unfortunate death, fell of my gator and the disk I was pulling sort of chopped it up!

Those are some "Low Alphabet" guns you added. Looks like Josh has a really nice bunch of guns now.

CraigThompson
06-08-2022, 09:27 PM
Well back to what was bought this year, First I sold several 20 ga Hammer guns, was the caretaker for quiet some time, now they reside in new homes and are well cared for! The new additions this year so far 12gauge A1 Spl, and a 20 ga A1 Spl up grade that was bought by Otis Odum according to the hang tag in 1981, Both guns from Josh, When he sends me photos I will post them, My camera met with a unfortunate death, fell of my gator and the disk I was pulling sort of chopped it up!

I was allowed to shoot a pair at Hausemanns with the 20 lifter you recently liquidated ! Nice experience :cool:

Rich Anderson
06-12-2022, 07:09 PM
The best laid plans of "Men of the Gun" often fall astray. I WAS doing great in liquidating some things I haven't shot and putting the money into some hunting adventures. To be honest the last couple of years have been pretty depressing and rather boring.
I left the Southern with three nice but not expensive guns, a DH 32 inch on a 2 frame, a 20ga Trojan and a very cool Winchester 1892 in 25/20. Years ago I sold a nice DHE 30 inch vent rib trap gun and now that I've discovered using 7/8th in a 12 and a modest supply of reloading components I thought I might like another one. I've been shooting some 12's for years mostly factory stuff in a Stephan Grant hammer gun as a prefer the small bores.
August, Steve Barnet's step son brought a CHE vent rib gun to Hausmann's for me to look at. It left me cold however and I never even considered it. There was however a gun waiting in the wings that I asked him to bring with absolutely NO intention of buying. It's an AAHE on a 2 frame with 32 inch barrels. The grip cap is engraved Bay City MI Dr R Ballard and below that is C. Middleton.
Now begins the search for information on Dr. Ballard and Mr. Middleton.
Oh the gun is an absolute dream. Maybe August will sell some more stuff before my hunt in Texas this fall.....that or I might have to go back to work :eek::eek:

Reggie Bishop
06-13-2022, 04:11 PM
Rich show us some pics of that AAHE!!

Andrew Sacco
06-15-2022, 09:19 PM
This :)

CraigThompson
06-16-2022, 04:42 AM
Seems I acquired a Remington Model 32TC 30” F&F the other day . And I think I have several that may leave the accumulation during the summer months .

Randy G Roberts
06-16-2022, 08:10 AM
This :)

C'mon Andy, details please. Friday afternoon gun probably with no safety, amazing that obvious oversight got past the final inspection :)

Andrew Sacco
06-16-2022, 10:01 AM
Sorry about that Randy everything in my life right now is in a state of entropy. Graduation party in two days hiring a new office manager it’s just a complete mess. More details to follow. 30 inch VH 12 gauge in very nice condition I will send more photos.

Andrew Sacco
06-16-2022, 06:23 PM
A few more. Had an hour, ran to the club and shot skeet. Wow. Pulverization comes to mind. She's tight and a hoot to shoot! This might supplant the 32" VH even though it's a tad long LOP for me by maybe 1/2" but the pad is so nice I'm just going to leave it.

Andrew Sacco
06-16-2022, 06:24 PM
And a few more

Reggie Bishop
06-16-2022, 06:28 PM
That’s a nice looking Parker! Straight stock goodness! But, I cringe when I see guns posed on rocks!!

Dan Steingraber
06-16-2022, 06:28 PM
She's a beauty!

Andrew Sacco
06-16-2022, 06:44 PM
That's why God made foam from craft centers. I cut a few strips and I have them on hand as I've used this rock before!

Daryl Corona
06-16-2022, 07:36 PM
Nice Andy, and no safety. Is she 28 or 30 inches?

Andrew Sacco
06-16-2022, 08:12 PM
Nice Andy, and no safety. Is she 28 or 30 inches?

Daryl she's 30". My drop in choke thingy measures XF R and F L barrels. It won't even go into the right barrel. I really have to find a tool to measure bore diameter and constriction so I can look smart when I post this stuff.

Daryl Corona
06-16-2022, 08:16 PM
Bring it to Mike's in July and I'll have my stuff to measure it.

Randy G Roberts
06-16-2022, 08:34 PM
Nice looking gun Andy, hope you enjoy it and she treats you right. I know what you mean about that pad looking so nice. I have a friend of mine who used to say, it's all wrong but it's alright. That pad's alright by me. Enjoy!!

Andrew Sacco
06-16-2022, 09:58 PM
Thanks Randy and Daryl

Garry L Gordon
06-17-2022, 07:32 AM
That's a beauty. Welcome to the straight/splinter-two trigger club! Your membership card will be forthcoming.

(BTW, if you perfect your no safety hunting carry, that gun would be a great prairie pheasant/sharptail gun.)

Andrew Sacco
06-17-2022, 08:28 AM
Thank you Garry. I have a 32" straight gripper that is also hell on clays (but you saw me crap the bed at Ernies with it...) but it's a bit heavy for pheasant hunting. Next up on the wish list after a Superposed or Perazzi skeet gun is a 28" ejector pistol grip 12g on a 1 frame : ) Gotta keep adding to the 401G account.