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Foster Myers III
04-21-2022, 06:40 PM
Hello,
I was recently gifted a straight stocked CHE grade parker, live bird gun with matching serial numbers around. My question is that the barrels are Titanic steel, not Acme. Are Titanic barrels on this because the receiver is a live bird gun?
Many thanks

Brian Dudley
04-21-2022, 07:09 PM
No. There was a period where Titanic barrels were being put on C grades.

Dean Romig
04-21-2022, 10:08 PM
Acme Steel barreled CH Parkers were introduced in the 1907 Parker Brothers catalog.





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Jim DiSpagno
04-21-2022, 11:06 PM
I had a CH Parker that lettered with 2barrels. One titanic steel the other as damascus steel Double d. Made early 1899 serial number 90681

Patrick Lien
04-21-2022, 11:38 PM
I have owned 3 different C grades that were made in 1903/1904 and all had Titanic barrels. What is the serial # of your gun? Please show us some pictures as it sounds like a good one.

PML

Randy G Roberts
04-22-2022, 09:51 PM
I believe the switch to Acme was 1905.

Dean Romig
04-22-2022, 10:34 PM
I believe the switch to Acme was 1905.


Randy, do you know of documentation of that?





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Randy G Roberts
04-22-2022, 10:42 PM
I think I found that info in TPS when I was researching the PP article I recently wrote on the BHE 20. I'm at the Southern now but I can check my notes when I get home if I'm in error to see where I found that tidbit.

Dean Romig
04-22-2022, 11:36 PM
Thanks Randy - I had looked up “Acme” in the index of The Parker Story I found that Acme barrels were first introduced in the 1907 Parker Brothers catalog but when I found that date I didn’t look any further.





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Dave Noreen
04-23-2022, 12:02 AM
Page 298 or The Parker Story the first Acme Steel barrel CH was 101184 made in 1900 and the highest serial number Titanic Steel barrel was 156622 made in 1910.

The early Acme Steel barrel guns I've recorded have the same K in the barrel steel location on the right barrel flat as the Titanic Steel barrels have from the get-go. Like 130114 shown here --

106309

106310

Dean Romig
04-23-2022, 08:47 AM
Thanks Dave! That’s why we call you “Researcher”!





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Randy G Roberts
04-26-2022, 05:41 PM
I cited 1905 previously as that information was obtained from The Parker Story as well. The chart on page 508 states 1905 was the first year Acme was used. That same chart also confirms what Dean stated earlier in that Acme was first catalogued in 1907.

Michael Moffa
04-29-2022, 07:47 PM
My fall DGJ article has pics of a Titanic and Bernard grade 4's.