40 inch barrels

[charlie cleveland]

I wish I could afford all of those 8 ga and 10 ga guns with the 10 inch barrels...I would be in parker heaven...some body s gona be a winner in this auction...charlie

[Bob Jurewicz]

But Charlie the wouldn't fit in your safe.
Bob Jurewicz

[Garry L Gordon]

It's interesting that those RIAC guns would show up all at once. Someone has been monitoring our chatter and you long barrel aficionados have cause a glut in the market.:rotf:

As of now, I plan to go to the preview day at Rock Island. I'll start lifting weights again so I can handle those behemoths.

They are very interesting guns, from an interesting time period. I hope someone here gets one.

[Milton C Starr]

Charlie I love the big guns but even to me on a 8 or 4 bore double anything over 36" starts to look disproportionate like on my 6 frame from some angles my 32" barrels look stubby. I think on the big guns somewhere in the range of 34"-38" is where they look good any thing less or more looks odd to me. Then again this can be entirely dependent on the scale of the action/frame size also. Like recently Ive come to the conclusion a 4 bore double should always be a hammergun as the actions arent as chunky around the stock head.

[Brian Dudley]

How about the 12g with 40” barrels??? Talk about a rare one!

[CraigThompson]

I wish I could afford all of those 8 ga and 10 ga guns with the 10 inch barrels...I would be in parker heaven...some body s gona be a winner in this auction...charlie

Don't think you want 10 inch barrels :rotf:

[CraigThompson]

I'm most likely wrong but I think their estimations on worth for all three 40" guns are a good bit high . In the past I'd thought they made the estimations low but not on those three .

[Bill Murphy]

I must have missed the 40" 12 gauge. Milton, I think my 30" DH 8 gauge is in perfect proportion. At 10 pounds, I can still lift it.

[Craig Larter]

The 8ga is very nice. Built in 1919 a year after the 8 was outlawed for waterfowl hunting which begs the question what was it intended for? 15 lbs 10oz king sized hippo for sure. That's 2 to 3 pounds heavier than most 36 inch 8's. A round of sporting clays would be a high intensity work out.

[CraigThompson]

The 8ga is very nice. Built in 1919 a year after the 8 was outlawed for waterfowl hunting which begs the question what was it intended for? 15 lbs 10oz king sized hippo for sure. That's 2 to 3 pounds heavier than most 36 inch 8's. A round of sporting clays would be a high intensity work out.

Thats 6 ounces lighter then my Charlie Hunter 36" gun I bought in Easton last year .

[Milton C Starr]

The 8ga is very nice. Built in 1919 a year after the 8 was outlawed for waterfowl hunting which begs the question what was it intended for? 15 lbs 10oz king sized hippo for sure. That's 2 to 3 pounds heavier than most 36 inch 8's. A round of sporting clays would be a high intensity work out.

I would say not all laws are for all people probably more so back then it would be easier to get by with not being perfectly inline with the regulations. Could probably look at the letter and see where it was ordered or by who, especially in rural areas its more about who you know. I remember reading about a 10 ga magnum Parker built on a 6 frame many many years after the 8 ga was outlawed for waterfowl, I reckon they had at least a few extra 6 frames laying around that they could use even after the 1918 ban.

[Milton C Starr]

I must have missed the 40" 12 gauge. Milton, I think my 30" DH 8 gauge is in perfect proportion. At 10 pounds, I can still lift it.

I think it probably has alot to do with barrel profile as well, My 6 frame 10 gauge barrels taper down to the muzzle about the same as my 3 frame so they have quite a bit of sweep to them I think makes them look short.

[Brian Dudley]

Some years ago I restored a 40” 8g for Daryl Middlebrook. It was a few years before he passed. It was an NH made in 1899. The barrels actually were 40.5” long. And the rib was unmatted, and the assumption was that the matting machine would not handle the 40” length. So I am curious if any of these 3 guns are matted or not.?

That gun was a beast. The barrels alone were 12.5 lbs and the gun total was 16 lbs.

[Keith Sirmans]

Where are these popping up at?

[CraigThompson]

Where are these popping up at?

Rock Island Auctions , may auction .

[Dave Noreen]

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/85/1477/parker-brothers-8-gauge-ph-grade-shotgun-with-40-inch-barrels

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/85/3434/parker-brothers-10-gauge-grade-2-shotgun-with-40-inch-barrels

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/85/3435/antique-parker-brothers-grade-2-shotgun-with-40-inch-barrels

[charlie cleveland]

boy I sure made a big mistake in the length of those barrels....are there any parker barrels longer than 40 inches...I don't.........I read on the 8 ga that it had 3 1/2 inch chambers that's the first for me there usally 3 1/4 inch.....if I had ordered this gun it would have had 4 1/4 inch chambers and another one just like it for bill murphy.....charlie

[Brian Dudley]

40” was the longest length that Parker made.

[charlie cleveland]

thanks brian...charlie

[Dave Noreen]

While the "standard" 8-gauge shell was 3 1/4-inch, UMC. and Winchester offered 8-gauge NPEs up to 4-inch.

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[Stan Hoover]

Some years ago I restored a 40” 8g for Daryl Middlebrook. It was a few years before he passed. It was an NH made in 1899. The barrels actually were 40.5” long. And the rib was unmatted, and the assumption was that the matting machine would not handle the 40” length. So I am curious if any of these 3 guns are matted or not.?

That gun was a beast. The barrels alone were 12.5 lbs and the gun total was 16 lbs.

Brian,

Was Daryl Middlebrook’s gun a hammer or hammer less gun?

Also, the 40” 8 gauge with Damascus barrels, that would probably not have the matting on the rib or were some Damascus ribs matted?

Thanks,
Stan

[Brian Dudley]

It was an NH made 1899.

[Dave Noreen]

Not many or very good pictures of guns they expect five figures for.

[Bill Murphy]

Nothing new there.

[charlie cleveland]

I noticed the the odd lengths in all gauges I would like to have some of those lengths to add to my collection...I have some of those 8 ga in 4 inch paper hulls and a few 4 ga leader brand paper hulls...how about those 10 ga and 12 ga 3 1/4 inch....charlie

[Dean Romig]

I wonder if Charlie Green still has his 40" 10 ga. DH shown on page 1027 of Vol. II of The Parker Story?





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[Mills Morrison]

I wonder if Charlie Green still has his 40" 10 ga. DH shown on page 1027 of Vol. II of The Parker Story?





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I've been in awe of that gun since I first saw it in The Parker Story.

Daryl Middlebrook had a 40" GH 8 on display at the Southern years ago. It was raining and some water had accumulated on it. I wiped the water off and figured Daryl wouldn't mind my picking it up and handling it, since I just saved it from rust. It handled well and you would not know it was 40 inches.

Still, I would not trade my 34" 8 gauge and have recently become an afficionado of short barrelled guns

[Dean Romig]

Mills, Daryl would have been more than happy to have you heft it and swing it.





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[Randy G Roberts]

I've been in awe of that gun since I first saw it in The Parker Story.

Daryl Middlebrook had a 40" GH 8 on display at the Southern years ago. It was raining and some water had accumulated on it. I wiped the water off and figured Daryl wouldn't mind my picking it up and handling it, since I just saved it from rust. It handled well and you would not know it was 40 inches.

Still, I would not trade my 34" 8 gauge and have recently become an afficionado of short barrelled guns

Mills knowing that you have turned the corner and are admiring the short barreled guns coupled with your passion for the 16 bore and the C grades I may have stumbled upon your dream gun. #138835, an Acme barreled CH 16 gauge with 22" barrels :shock: BTW I have one of Daryls guns, a 36" DHE 12 ga.

[Stan Hoover]

BTW I have one of Daryls guns, a 36" DHE 12 ga.

That sounds very nice Randy, will it be along in Sanford in a couple weeks?:bowdown:

[Randy G Roberts]

BTW I have one of Daryls guns, a 36" DHE 12 ga.

That sounds very nice Randy, will it be along in Sanford in a couple weeks?:bowdown:

Probably not Stan, It's not made for Sanford type targets. I have shot some sporting clays with it but mostly wobble trap.

[Stan Hoover]

Sounds like beautiful gun there Randy, would enjoy seeing it someday.

[Mills Morrison]

Mills, Daryl would have been more than happy to have you heft it and swing it.





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I did not know Daryl well, but remember him offering any assistance he could give when I bought my 8 gauge. I could tell he was a good guy

[Dean Romig]

He was a super good guy! Smoked like a chimney but a great friend. Fun to talk with too - very big into airplanes and was very involved with Penn Yan Aero.





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[CraigThompson]

Probably not Stan, It's not made for Sanford type targets. I have shot some sporting clays with it but mostly wobble trap.

Bring it to Rock Mountain ! Mikey has a wobblyde bird event I think ! Is it a 3 frame ?

[CraigThompson]

BTW I have one of Daryls guns, a 36" DHE 12 ga.

That sounds very nice Randy, will it be along in Sanford in a couple weeks?:bowdown:

Is that bad boy on a 3 frame ?

[Randy G Roberts]

Is that bad boy on a 3 frame ?

I only wish but it's not.

[Stan Hillis]

The 8ga is very nice. Built in 1919 a year after the 8 was outlawed for waterfowl hunting which begs the question what was it intended for?

Craig, stop and think for a minute. The 8 was outlawed in 1918, for ducks. That does not mean it was not used long after that, for ducks. Remembering the outlawing of lead shot for ducks, I can assure you that it was used many years after that, and may even continue to be, for ducks. Parker had no responsibility for how the guns were used, legal or illegal.

SRH

[CraigThompson]

Craig, stop and think for a minute. The 8 was outlawed in 1918, for ducks. That does not mean it was not used long after that, for ducks. Remembering the outlawing of lead shot for ducks, I can assure you that it was used many years after that, and may even continue to be, for ducks. Parker had no responsibility for how the guns were used, legal or illegal.

SRH

Heck the PH 8 I have according to the Parker letter wasn’t even ordered for waterfowl ! A lumber company in the panhandle of FL ordered it for buckshot . I “assume” to shoot gators and possibly black bear as again i “assume” that was before the black bear subspecies there was endangered .

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

The sixteen gauge A1-SPL is a good looking gun but the min wall thickness .010, .011 would make it un shootable to me, maybe it is a typo error ? Gary

[Mike Koneski]

The 8ga is very nice. Built in 1919 a year after the 8 was outlawed for waterfowl hunting which begs the question what was it intended for? 15 lbs 10oz king sized hippo for sure. That's 2 to 3 pounds heavier than most 36 inch 8's. A round of sporting clays would be a high intensity work out.

Craig, I volunteer to put that gun through a 100 bird round of sporting!!

[Mills Morrison]

Daryl Middlebrook's 40" GH 8. I remember it handling amazingly well and not feeling front heavy despite the length of the barrels.

[charlie cleveland]

I like tnem long barrels....charlie

[Destry L. Hoffard]

Having owed a 34 inch 12 gauge for several duck seasons, I can assure you anything longer is cumbersome. I believe 34 inch may be the perfect waterfowling length.

[CraigThompson]

Having owed a 34 inch 12 gauge for several duck seasons, I can assure you anything longer is cumbersome. I believe 34 inch may be the perfect waterfowling length.

A lot of it has to do with the stock dimensions . I’ve got two 8 gauge hammer guns both 36” . The first I got has some drop but not bad I can shoot it okay , the second and older one has a stock like the proverbial dogs hind leg and weighs perhaps two pounds more . That things a PITA to shoot .

[Mills Morrison]

34" is enough for me, but I was surprised at how well Daryl's handled. It just goes to show how the Parker folks knew how to make guns and make guns that balance

[Phil Yearout]

Daryl Middlebrook's 40" GH 8. I remember it handling amazingly well and not feeling front heavy despite the length of the barrels.

Does it come with a drop-down shooting stick :)?

[Richard Flanders]

I've shot Destry's 34" gun - the famous swamp angel - and can vouch for it's effectiveness on waterfowl. I miraculously pulled off one of the better crossing shots of my life with that thing. I'll add that it's a good thing the guide was quick at ducking up in the bow as I swung it through from right to left?!! Great time!!

[charlie cleveland]

I have a over and under 12 ga magnum that was a 10 ga but sleved to 12 ga that has 43 1/2 inch barrels...it does not handle well at all the strength in my arm s are weak now from age and health issues so its a burden for me....but dog gone it I still like those long barrels.......charlie

[Garry L Gordon]

Stop! You guys are going to make me have to buy a taller safe.:banghead:

I'll be checking out the long-legged guns at Rock Island, and hope none of them speaks to me.

[CraigThompson]

Stop! You guys are going to make me have to buy a taller safe.:banghead:

I'll be checking out the long-legged guns at Rock Island, and hope none of them speaks to me.

I’ve got four saves at the moment , one of which four normal sized males can stand upright inside . So “if” push came to shove I could handle about eighty 40” guns :whistle:

[Garry L Gordon]

I’ve got four saves at the moment , one of which four normal sized males can stand upright inside . So “if” push came to shove I could handle about eighty 40” guns :whistle:

No former long-barreled gun owners "stored" in that safe, I hope.:eek::shock::rotf:

[CraigThompson]

No former long-barreled gun owners "stored" in that safe, I hope.:eek::shock::rotf:

This safe started life in the 1890’s . We got it from a local clothing factory , they used it to lock their pattern clothes I guess you’d say inside hanging on a rack . I’ve got $150 in it delivered to the house on a rollback :cool: