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Ken Stachowski
03-15-2022, 08:09 AM
I am liquidating an estate and wanted to have as much info on this item as possible. I read an old thread regarding this trigger but would like to know any specifics as to is this mechanism complete? Was it intended for a specific model?

Thank you in advance for any help.
Ken

tom tutwiler
03-15-2022, 08:27 AM
Think you are missing something. Best I can find:

https://www.germanhuntingguns.com/lancaster-arms-co-infallible-single-trigger/

Bill Murphy
03-15-2022, 08:42 AM
Thanks to Larry S. for reprinting the Lancaster catalog. The first testimonial on page 18 mentions a gun that I own, a Lindner Daly (Thomas Golcher) ten gauge hammer gun shot in East Coast flyer competition by a Crumpton, Maryland shooter. This is the only hammer gun I have ever seen equipped with an Infallible single trigger. (except George Peck's C Grade Parker, pictured in the catalog) George Peck's hammer gun was owned by a PGCA member. Small world, the double gun world. All of my guns equipped with the Infallible trigger work well and have never needed repair, including the old Lindner pigeon gun. The missing part of Ken's mechanism seems to be the trigger blade.

Mills Morrison
03-15-2022, 08:46 AM
I have a 20 gauge VH with an Infallible single trigger which I love.

Bill Murphy
03-15-2022, 09:01 AM
Larry S, mentioned in the linked post that he and Tom Kidd thought that Shoverling, Daly, and Gales had some relationship with the Lancaster Trigger Company. That is true, the Daly catalogs of the time mentioned the Infallible trigger as an option on new Lindner Daly guns. It is suspected that Lindner installed the triggers at the time of original manufacture of the guns in Prussia.

Ken Stachowski
03-15-2022, 10:07 AM
Any suggestions as to the best platform to use to divest of this item?

Dean Romig
03-15-2022, 10:13 AM
David Trevallion once had a Parker Bros. AA Pigeon hammer gun with an Infallible single trigger and an aftermarket beavertail forend. He converted the gun back to its original configuration. I don’t know where the gun resides today.

Correction - it had a Miller trigger.


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Dave Noreen
03-15-2022, 10:28 AM
In 1915 Ithaca was offering the Infallible trigger --

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J. Scott Hanes
03-15-2022, 12:31 PM
I know next to nothing about this Infallible Trigger. Would one of you care to give a synopsis of its history, why it was not that (obviously) popular and what negative issues contributed to its short history? Also, has anyone ever attempted to duplicate it? Thanks.

Bill Murphy
03-15-2022, 01:16 PM
Did you click on the link that was poster on this thread? It shows a lot of info on the company. It was not that popular probably because it switched automatically to the second barrel, which meant that if you only took one shot, the gun would not return to barrel #1 after you reloaded one shell. That was, and is, a nightmare for trapshooters who only shoot one barrel at a time. Apparently, this feature was never discontinued or modified. The Miller trigger came shortly afterward and was also a bulletproof design but without the switching problem. The Miller trigger continues to this day, under its original family ownership until just a few years ago.

J. Scott Hanes
03-15-2022, 02:34 PM
Thanks, Bill. Yes, I read the catalogue information, but I spent most of my career in marketing and understand what can be "said" may not be of actual fact! Appreciate the info and 'get' that the barrel switching issue would likely be a negative factor; except perhaps in shooting trap doubles where two shots are the norm.

Bill Murphy
03-15-2022, 05:11 PM
Any game where you fill your gun and empty your gun every time you shoot it is fine. In nearly all hunting situations and trap singles or any clay target game where single targets are shot, the Infallible is a mental nightmare until you are totally familiar and "never forget". A trigger that works is more important to me than occasionally getting caught with an empty chamber.

Mills Morrison
03-15-2022, 05:32 PM
Bill is right about that.

Robert Brooks
03-15-2022, 06:36 PM
I have one on my B grade Fox and it works well. Bobby

Bill Murphy
03-16-2022, 12:31 AM
The Infallible trigger has been problem free when shooting any game where the gun is always fully loaded and emptied after shooting, like box birds, Columbaire, and sporting clays. Skeet and American trap, not so much. I think I have at least five Infallible trigger guns and they are among my favorites.